[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Riley.

Yes £36,000 for tuition then 4 x £3,500 for my student loan = £14,000 totaling £50,000 I will probably never pay it off although I hope I can, but it's a pretty fair system and I am grateful because without it I couldn't afford to go to university. University will allow me to earn more than enough to pay it back.

If you make University free the taxpayer is still paying for it. Wait until tax is extortionate to fund all of Labours projects then you'll be begging for students to pay for their OWN education and not everyone else.

But if you never pay it off the taxpayer still pays for it

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Riley.

I previously said I live independently from my parents. I get nothing from my single mother actually she borrows money off of me.

Yes sorry you did, you may be happy now the student loan and any grants you may be entitled to are propping you up, fast forward a to when you want to buy... That student debt suddenly becomes a millstone.

What's wrong with tax subsidising uni fees anyway? I'm tax payer and I don't mind one bit if I am aiding the next generation fund their careers, that's how society in this country was built.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Cherie

But if you never pay it off the taxpayer still pays for it

Good point!

That is how we are funding our futures atm the debt of the young

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Riley.

I previously said I live independently from my parents. I get nothing from my single mother actually she borrows money off of me.

I don't mean to be patronising, my son is at Uni and he is the same as you he thinks nothing of being in debt, I think its a terrible way to start your life

[Greg!]

Originally Posted by Riley.

^^ I'm fine paying the current tuition fees. I'd rather pay them than get it for free at the expense of the country.

Yes well lots of people aren't fine with it and can't afford to go to uni even if they want to due to tuition fees.

Originally Posted by Riley.

The only reason they get it free or cheap is because it is subsidized by the British government, I actually agree with you that it's not fair at all and I would like to see Scotland and Wales pay £9,000 like us in England.

Absolutely not the case. Scotland pays more tax per head of population than anywhere else the UK. I'm fine with that if it means people get free education throughout their lives.

Originally Posted by Riley.

Yes £36,000 for tuition then 4 x £3,500 for my student loan = £14,000 totaling £50,000 I will probably never pay it off although I hope I can, but it's a pretty fair system and I am grateful because without it I couldn't afford to go to university. University will allow me to earn more than enough to pay it back.
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That's bad that you'll never pay it off. Why are you "grateful" for being burdened with debt for the rest of your life?? Just seems bizarre.

[Withano]

Originally Posted by Riley.

Labour want to introduce a National Education Service funded by raising corporation tax, but then businesses will eff off to other countries and our economy will be screwed. Then everything collapses. Scream Marxism all you like but at the end of the day without big business, you become a minuscule little Britain that nobody wants to touch with a barge pole. But that's okay because I can be spoonfed by Jeremy Corbyn, John MCdonall and Diane 'Racist' Abbott.

There are plenty of countries that have free education and large businesses.

[Kizzy]

Riley Has Tom Watson been to do talks at your uni?...

[Wizard.]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

Riley Has Tom Watson been to do talks at your uni?...

No, he's probably too busy at a festival or something or slagging someone off.

[Cherie]

[QUOTE=Greg!;9301341]



Absolutely not the case. Scotland pays more tax per head of population than anywhere else the UK. I'm fine with that if it means people get free education throughout their lives.




How is that worked out, and what extra tax do you pay?

[Wizard.]

A moral argument is that, tuition fees are an investment in your future and how are you suppose to value your education when you take it for granted that it's free?

[Greg!]

Originally Posted by Cherie

How is that worked out, and what extra tax do you pay?

Higher earners pay slightly more income tax than the rest of the UK for one. The tories are always banging on about it like it's a bad thing

[Denver]

Originally Posted by Greg!

Higher earners pay slightly more income tax than the rest of the UK for one. The tories are always banging on about it like it's a bad thing

Why should they pay for someone else education

[Northern Monkey]

A draft of Labour's general election manifesto has been leaked, including plans to nationalise the energy industry and scrap tuition fees.
The BBC has seen a copy of the document, which has not yet been formally signed off, with the Mirror and the Daily Telegraph also reporting details.
These include nationalising railways, bus firms and the Royal Mail and renewing the Trident weapons system.
Labour would not comment on leaks.

General election 2017: Labour pledges in 'manifesto leak'
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-39877439

[Northern Monkey]

Not against any of the things mentioned so far

[Kizzy]

Sounds brilliant, are we really going to vote for austerity, bombs and crippling youth debt over this?

[Kizzy]

Might have known the torygraph would be included in this leak, they have a mole in the cabinet I bet :/

[Greg!]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

Sounds brilliant, are we really going to vote for austerity, bombs and crippling youth debt over this?

Sadly yes!

[Denver]

Why should University be free? Its a privilege not a right

[Greg!]

It should be a right if you get the grades.

[Denver]

No its expensive so if you want it you pay.

You already get 10 years free education

[Kizzy]

Responding to press reports that a draft of the Labour manifesto has been leaked, a senior Conservative campaign source said:

"This is a total shambles. Jeremy Corbyn's plans to unleash chaos on Britain have been revealed. The commitments in this dossier will rack up tens of billions of extra borrowing for our families. Jobs will be lost, families will be hit and our economic security damaged for a generation."


So what?... We're all up to our eyes in debt anyway from 21+ many are 10s of thousands in debt.

[Denver]

Well all Labour want to do is give give give yet to fund this his plan is to borrow billions of pounds

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Adam.

No its expensive so if you want it you pay.

You already get 10 years free education

Why is it? tutors are only teachers, why should you be held to ransom for information in this way?

If we want to cut immigration we're going to have to educate our young people to a decent standard, we can't achieve this by relying on the privileged few.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Adam.

Well all Labour want to do is give give give yet to fund this his plan is to borrow billions of pounds

This govt have doubled the national debt and we STILL have jack to show for it, the can't lecture anyone on mismanagement of funds.

[Denver]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

Why is it? tutors are only teachers, why should you be held to ransom for information in this way?

If we want to cut immigration we're going to have to educate our young people to a decent standard, we can't achieve this by relying on the privileged few.

it cost around £8-10,000 per year of Uni so if someone wants to be say a brain surgeon that needs up to 15 years training you add that up and thats a lot of money for free