[Parmy]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

So abuse is okay as long as it's forgotten?

Why are you trying to make out that this is about smuggling? It's not going to fly or justify why over two thousand children in a matter of months have been subjected to this child abuse. It's a false motivation and one that's used to justify child abuse.

The only thing this is about is criminals being foolish or uncaring enough that they will risk the well being of their or someone elses kids.

You can blame trump all you want...im fed up arguing the toss about it.

[The Slim Reaper]

Originally Posted by parmnion

The only thing this is about is criminals being foolish or uncaring enough that they will risk the well being of their or someone elses kids.

You can blame trump all you want...im fed up arguing the toss about it.

You do realise that people don't decide to trek 1000 miles across the Americas for ****s and giggles? These folks are seeking asylum. These aren't criminals, they're fleeing cartels and regimes.

It's complete BS.

[Brillopad]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

So abuse is okay as long as it's forgotten?

Why are you trying to make out that this is about smuggling? It's not going to fly or justify why over two thousand children in a matter of months have been subjected to this child abuse. It's a false motivation and one that's used to justify child abuse.

Maybe the parents should think of that before trying to gain illegal entry into another country. Blame everyone else - but not the parents for their own irresponsible actions. It isn't child abuse on behalf of the authorities and the use of such terminology is simply emotive for effect. America has a right to protect its borders as does any other country.

[montblanc]

i can't believe people are defending this child abuse

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Brillopad

America has a right to protect its borders as does any other country.

Locking kids up and leaving them sleeping on the floor is protecting their borders?

Yeah, ok.

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by parmnion

The only thing this is about is criminals being foolish or uncaring enough that they will risk the well being of their or someone elses kids.

You can blame trump all you want...im fed up arguing the toss about it.

I will blame Trump because it's his administration that is responsible for state sponsored child abuse.

Try this thing called empathy, try putting yourself in the shoes of someone so desperate to enter a country that they'd do it illegally. These kinds of people rarely think 'Oh wow, let's go pillage the US' benefits system and it's totally bitchin' insurance based health system that would screw us over for generations just because I can't be bothered to find a job in Mexico'

No, people don't take risks like that unless they are desperate. To blame parents for their children being taken from them and mentally and emotionally abused doesn't fly.

You are either against this abhorrent practice or you are for it, no grey areas, no victim blaming, no blaming a previous administration. It's a black or white issue. You either think this is perfectly acceptable or you don't.

Originally Posted by Brillopad

Maybe the parents should think of that before trying to gain illegal entry into another country. Blame everyone else - but not the parents for their own irresponsible actions. It isn't child abuse on behalf of the authorities and the use of such terminology is simply emotive for effect. America has a right to protect its borders as does any other country.

So you're supporting state sponsored child abuse because they are immigrants, okay.

[Marsh.]

Blame the victims. Same old sorry story.

[Crimson Dynamo]

I remember when some members tht Donald would be gone by March 2017

Lol

[Twosugars]

Originally Posted by parmnion

Ive been looking all day.

they had footage of kids in cages on bbc news, Parm

Originally Posted by Kizzy

I agree 100% TS, people are demonised, stereotyped, marginalised,subjugated society is programmed via the media that they are criminals, drains on resources, undesirables.
This makes it easier for them to be mistreated unchallenged by 'society', they are the criminal, poor, workshy, disabled, foreign.

Can anyone hand on heart say they haven't been witness to this...Here in the UK?
Not as yet on the scale the US has it but we're never usually that far behind due to our 'special relationship'.

are you surprised, Kizzy? it's either that or people will start twigging who really is to blame, i.e the establishment and the rich and they sure can't have that

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

I remember when some members tht Donald would be gone by March 2017

Lol

Now, LT, don't troll, this subject is emotive as it is, no need to add fuel

[Marsh.]

Ending the thread because you've lost a debate.

[montblanc]

screaming not "done"

[Twosugars]

but honestly, what the actual f*uck with that coat of hers? I mean, you couldn't make this **** up if you tried!

[Maru]

Originally Posted by Twosugars

but honestly, what the actual f*uck with that coat of hers? I mean, you couldn't make this **** up if you tried!

I really don't like casual wear that insults other people. It assumes too much what the other person is thinking... especially assuming they might even care, just a little ... but I think in this case, it's probably a message to the media... however, it is too vague even for me, so I think the "message" got lost just like those t-shirts that make people feel bad for just reading their stupid phrases.

Trump has an issue where he says whatever he likes, we know this, except often he is verbally farting into the ether when he does this. So even conservatives have issues trying to understand his core messaging there . So it's hard to assume what his final messaging will be, even for those on his staff, as they usually go with one interpretation, only for Trump to re-engage with a latter message...

His wife is just following with his trend of spiting the media with vague & ominous messaging. Trump loves to stir the pot, and I guess so does his wife now?... I think supporters would probably find it amusing that the press is even over-thinking it. I don't think they take him that seriously at all, his odd quirks and the fact she chose a jacket with a childish phrase on the back...

[Alf]

Originally Posted by Twosugars

but honestly, what the actual f*uck with that coat of hers? I mean, you couldn't make this **** up if you tried!

A message to the media.

[bots]

Originally Posted by Alf

A message to the media.

it's not a message to the media, its a message to the world. I mean, wearing a poppy or a ribbon or something sends a clear and unambiguous message. Wearing, "I don't care, do you" also sends a message, and if you don't mean literally what you have written on your coat .... don't wear it.

[Alf]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

it's not a message to the media, its a message to the world. I mean, wearing a poppy or a ribbon or something sends a clear and unambiguous message. Wearing, "I don't care, do you" also sends a message, and if you don't mean literally what you have written on your coat .... don't wear it.

"I REALLY DON’T CARE, DO U?” written on the back of Melania’s jacket, refers to the Fake News Media. Melania has learned how dishonest they are, and she truly no longer cares!

President Trump



"Melania Trump removed her controversial jacket before landing in Texas – but wore it again upon returning to Maryland"

ABC News

[bots]

Originally Posted by Alf

"I REALLY DON’T CARE, DO U?” written on the back of Melania’s jacket, refers to the Fake News Media. Melania has learned how dishonest they are, and she truly no longer cares!

President Trump



"Melania Trump removed her controversial jacket before landing in Texas – but wore it again upon returning to Maryland"

ABC News

Sorry, but trump utters nothing but **** and lies so his explanations are meaningless

[Jake.]

Originally Posted by Alf

A message to the media.

It really isn’t.

[Alf]

Originally Posted by Jake.

It really isn’t.

Don't keep it to yourself, if you have new information, then can't you tell us?

[arista]

Originally Posted by Alf

A message to the media.

Yes CNN HD USA
will spend a hour on her coat.

Fecking Pathetic ALF

[Twosugars]

But Maru, it looked tacky, not suitable for a First Lady. And more importantly she was going to visit those refugee kids. Don't they have advisers? That **** goes out to the worldwide audience, not just Trump's enemies and supporters.

[Maru]

Originally Posted by Twosugars

But Maru, it looked tacky, not suitable for a First Lady. And more importantly she was going to visit those refugee kids. Don't they have advisers? That **** goes out to the worldwide audience, not just Trump's enemies and supporters.

If it is anything like his cabinet, then his/their advisers have probably all quit, been rotated out by now... So maybe they found people that have learned from their predecessors just to nod and agree.

It is tacky, but US politics is so obscenely tacky and trollish atm... I personally am tired of reading up on it as it's just gone that far for me. It's only a little bit ridiculous. The whole thing.

[bots]

Hey Maru, nice to see you back

Tell me, how often does the presidents wife go on an official trip wearing a $40 jacket. How often does she have one with a slogan on it? It was intended to send a clear message. How could people possibly say it was a fashion statement i mean ... come on

[Crimson Dynamo]

of course kids were segregated from their parents like this during the last administration

:/

[arista]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

of course kids were segregated from their parents like this during the last administration

:/

Yes no alarm then.