[AnnieK]

In all honesty, they shouldn't have banned her because now she has the attention she craves and has people actually defending her right to spout ****.

[Alf]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

Nobody said it was a crime that's not why she was removed.

We all know the real reason she's banned, because she criticises the wrong people, and talks about things like rumours of cover ups of serious crimes in high places. Things that these poweful people want hushing up.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Alf

We all know the real reason she's banned, because she criticises the wrong people, and talks about things like rumours of cover ups of serious crimes in high places. Things that these poweful people want hushing up.

Ive never heard her mention cover ups of serious crimes... you're suggesting that after insulting young activists she enjoys exposing the powerful?..

Do you have any examples of undercover crimes she's exposed?

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Alf

We all know the real reason she's banned, because she criticises the wrong people, and talks about things like rumours of cover ups of serious crimes in high places. Things that these poweful people want hushing up.

Sure.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Alf

It's easy, because Katie should have the freedom to say that, if she wishes to. It's not or it shouldn't be a crime.

Just as twitter should have the freedom to not want her on the platform wihout being forced to host her by snowflakes.

[user104658]

You're acting like this was sudden and disproportionate Alf. She got away with saying a lot of things, about a lot of people, for a long time. She's been suspended because she pushed it too far. The world isn't a free-for-all.

[Alf]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

Ive never heard her mention cover ups of serious crimes... you're suggesting that after insulting young activists she enjoys exposing the powerful?..

Do you have any examples of undercover crimes she's exposed?

It was a story out a couple of weeks ago, where the Greater Manchester Police have admitted that they turned a blind eye to thousands of young girls being raped, because they didn't want to seem racist. The mainstream media did 1 day on the story, they had Maggie Oliver on talking about it., but then dropped it after a day, yet Katie and her ilk, don't drop the story, they continue to talk about it. And rightly so, it should be the biggest news story on every main stream media channel, right now. Thousands of young girls, sacrificed for the sake of diversity, and who at the top gave the orders to ignore it?

[Alf]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

You're acting like this was sudden and disproportionate Alf. She got away with saying a lot of things, about a lot of people, for a long time. She's been suspended because she pushed it too far. The world isn't a free-for-all.

I'm not asking for a free for all, just the freedom for everyone to speak their mind.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Alf

I'm not asking for a free for all, just the freedom for everyone to speak their mind.

Nobody's blocked any freedom for anyone to speak their mind. What about that do you not understand?

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Alf

It was a story out a couple of weeks ago, where the Greater Manchester Police have admitted that they turned a blind eye to thousands of young girls being raped, because they didn't want to seem racist. The mainstream media did 1 day on the story, they had Maggie Oliver on talking about it., but then dropped it after a day, yet Katie and her ilk, don't drop the story, they continue to talk about it. And rightly so, it should be the biggest news story on every main stream media channel, right now. Thousands of young girls, sacrificed for the sake of diversity, and who at the top gave the orders to ignore it?

That's not a conspiracy and that's not her "exposing" anything. That's her discussing a news story everyone is already aware of.

Has she actually provided any new information or added anything valid to that conversation? Or does she simply keep mentioning it?

[Alf]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

Nobody's blocked any freedom for anyone to speak their mind. What about that do you not understand?

I get it, but like I say, I think it's wrong, I'm guessing that you think it's right?

But just remember. First they came for Alex Jones, and I didn't speak up, then they came for Katie Hopkins, and I didn't speak up, then they came for me, and there was nobody left to speak up for me.

[Alf]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

That's not a conspiracy and that's not her "exposing" anything. That's her discussing a news story everyone is already aware of.

Has she actually provided any new information or added anything valid to that conversation? Or does she simply keep mentioning it?

My point was that she's been shut down because she continues to talk about it. And other stories that the esbalishment don't want people talking about.

Like I say, this should be a huge story, this is a bigger story than Hillsborough for me, this is one of the most shocking stories of my lifetime, if not the most shocking, bigger than Brexit. But the establishment have the main stream media under control, but how do they get Katie Hopkins under control? they shut her down by force.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Alf

It was a story out a couple of weeks ago, where the Greater Manchester Police have admitted that they turned a blind eye to thousands of young girls being raped, because they didn't want to seem racist. The mainstream media did 1 day on the story, they had Maggie Oliver on talking about it., but then dropped it after a day, yet Katie and her ilk, don't drop the story, they continue to talk about it. And rightly so, it should be the biggest news story on every main stream media channel, right now. Thousands of young girls, sacrificed for the sake of diversity, and who at the top gave the orders to ignore it?

It's been well known for years there was a cover up, it has been exposed countless times about the exploitation of young care home girls in certain areas.
I agree that should never have happened, and yes of course it needs an inquiry.

That story broke months and months ago, I remember it being discussed on here, Katie did not expose this information.

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Alf

It was a story out a couple of weeks ago, where the Greater Manchester Police have admitted that they turned a blind eye to thousands of young girls being raped, because they didn't want to seem racist. The mainstream media did 1 day on the story, they had Maggie Oliver on talking about it., but then dropped it after a day, yet Katie and her ilk, don't drop the story, they continue to talk about it. And rightly so, it should be the biggest news story on every main stream media channel, right now. Thousands of young girls, sacrificed for the sake of diversity, and who at the top gave the orders to ignore it?

I heard that interview, but there hasn't been a peep about it since, so I agree with you on that one

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Alf

My point was that she's been shut down because she continues to talk about it. And other stories that the esbalishment don't want people talking about.

Like I say, this should be a huge story, this is a bigger story than Hillsborough for me, this is one of the most shocking stories of my lifetime, if not the most shocking, bigger than Brexit. But the establishment have the main stream media under control, but how do they get Katie Hopkins under control? they shut her down by force.

If she was the only one discussing this then of course it would look that way but she isn't. ..

[Alf]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

It's been well known for years there was a cover up, it has been exposed countless times about the exploitation of young care home girls in certain areas.
I agree that should never have happened, and yes of course it needs an inquiry.

That story broke months and months ago, I remember it being discussed on here, Katie did not expose this information.

I didn't say she exposed it, because I know she didn't. I'm saying that I believe the reason she's been shut down is because she continues to talk about this and other stories that hold powerful people to account.

[Alf]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

If she was the only one discussing this then of course it would look that way but she isn't. ..

Well they can't do them all in one clean sweep, that would look suspicious. They need to find loop-holes, and try and get them on technicalities like, she said a bad word, we got her. Let's swoop in and shut her down.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Alf

I get it, but like I say, I think it's wrong, I'm guessing that you think it's right?

But just remember. First they came for Alex Jones, and I didn't speak up, then they came for Katie Hopkins, and I didn't speak up, then they came for me, and there was nobody left to speak up for me.

Again, nobody has come for their free speech.

[Swan]

Originally Posted by Cherie

I heard that interview, but there hasn't been a peep about it since, so I agree with you on that one

Tbh i usually try and stay quite current, yet i had never heard about this.

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Alf

I'm not asking for a free for all, just the freedom for everyone to speak their mind.

People mostly still have the freedom to speak their mind so long as they can do it in the spirit of a respectful debate. I actually agree that there are situations where "cancelled culture" IS resulting in people being shut down even when they're engaging in such debate and that that's a problem.

I don't agree with you on Hopkins because she's unable to address these issues, speak her mind, and engage in debate without becoming mocking, using aggressive language, being abusive and deliberately offensive. Those things don't and shouldn't fall under free speech. She quite specifically has NOT been banned (or suspended, she may not even BE banned) "for her opinions".

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Alf

My point was that she's been shut down because she continues to talk about it. And other stories that the esbalishment don't want people talking about.

Like I say, this should be a huge story, this is a bigger story than Hillsborough for me, this is one of the most shocking stories of my lifetime, if not the most shocking, bigger than Brexit. But the establishment have the main stream media under control, but how do they get Katie Hopkins under control? they shut her down by force.

Really? They don't come for people who can actually affect change? They come for... Katie Hopkins who nobody takes seriously? Ok Alf.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Alf

I didn't say she exposed it, because I know she didn't. I'm saying that I believe the reason she's been shut down is because she continues to talk about this and other stories that hold powerful people to account.

Well like I said she's far from the only one, so your feeling now is she's being shut down not for being alt right, or racist but for being a social justice warrior?

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Alf

Well they can't do them all in one clean sweep, that would look suspicious. They need to find loop-holes, and try and get them on technicalities like, she said a bad word, we got her. Let's swoop in and shut her down.

Who?

[Swan]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

Really? They don't come for people who can actually affect change? They come for... Katie Hopkins who nobody takes seriously? Ok Alf.

I don't care for Katie Hopkins, but Alf is making a very valid point, stop being so condescending Marsh.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Swan

I don't care for Katie Hopkins, but Alf is making a very valid point, stop being so condescending Marsh.

Quite tired of you popping up in threads just to have a pop. It's very boring. Either add to the discussion of why you find it a valid point or jog on and quote someone else.