[Swan]

Originally Posted by Ammi

...the wrong side of the tracks wasn’t a stand alone, comment...her ‘exotic blood’ was also referred to so it’s the whole context, Swan...and why I said it as ‘bloodline’...I’m sure that Fergie and other Royal brides have had criticism and some will have had criticism quite plentiful...but I can’t recall any to have had undercurrents of racism or more blatant racism attached as well...which obviously when Archie was born, extended out to him also, more or less from birth...I really understand why they felt ...enough... when it was extending to their child...

But again, if you're looking for racism you'll find it, even when it's not necessarily there. "exotic blood" could certainly suggest a racial undercurrent, in turn it could also suggest her 'american ism' Our press are dramatic to say the least, anyone outside the British Isles could easily be considered "exotic" by our sensationalist press. It's this strange Island mentality we have.

Im not saying it didn't have any racist undercurrents, but it's fair to look at this from every angle.

Their child would have been hounded by our press, problem is he'll also be hounded by the LA press too. Very, very strange place to set up home when you're 'wanting out' of the limelight, but that's been covered to death.

[Beso]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

Well, she wouldn't. Someone who isn't white will always get more hatred then someone who is because the white person won't have to deal with racism.

It's just kind of a basic thing really. If Meghan was white, she wouldn't get racist hate. Common sense, really.

But you should stop focusing on that and realise that people are bored and disappointed with them because they see them as a pair knobs.

They were given a chance by most, and now most feel like they have been slapped in the face by them both.

People see them as the couple they are, and judge them in that. It seems only you and a few others are obsessed with her, and her alone.

[Glenn.]

Originally Posted by parmnion

But you should stop focusing on that and realise that people are bored and disappointed with them because they see them as a pair knobs.

They were given a chance by most, and now most feel like they have been slapped in the face by them both.

People see them as the couple they are, and judge them in that. It seems only you and a few others are obsessed with her, and her alone.

‘Given a chance’

It’s not for us to give them a chance.

And if people are so bored of them then just stop talking about them?

The only threads ever made about them on here are negative ones where people think it’s completely acceptable to hound every single thing they do. They can’t be that boring.

[jet]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

racism is a much bigger issue in the USA than it is here ... and where did they go?

It’s certainly debatable whether she had any intentions of staying in the UK to begin with.
The racism was bigged up as part of her excuse to get her own way.
Never mind old Trump, guns galore and far worse racism. Off we go Harry!

[Beso]

Originally Posted by Glenn.

‘Given a chance’

It’s not for us to give them a chance.

And if people are so bored of them then just stop talking about them?

The only threads ever made about them on here are negative ones where people think it’s completely acceptable to hound every single thing they do. They can’t be that boring.

The only thread made about them are news stories actually.

Then the opinions come along.

Maybe it's you that see them as negative stories...you should say in future..rather than blindly defending them for something you see as a negative action.

[Glenn.]

Originally Posted by parmnion

The only thread made about them are news stories actually.

Then the opinions come along.

Maybe it's you that see them as negative stories...you should say in future..rather than blindly defending them for something you see as a negative action.

Which are negative stories... followed by hateful sheep that accept those stories to be fact

[Glenn.]

Originally Posted by jet

It’s certainly debatable whether she had any intentions of staying in the UK to begin with.
The racism was bigged up as part of her excuse to get her own way.
Never mind old Trump, guns galore and far worse racism. Off we go Harry!

Prime example of an irrational thought process.

[Beso]

Originally Posted by Glenn.

Which are negative stories... followed by hateful sheep that accept those stories to be fact

You sound very angry, I shall leave you to rant at someone else's opinions.

[Glenn.]

Originally Posted by parmnion

You sound very angry, I shall leave you to rant at someone else's opinions.

The ole ‘I can’t dispute this so I’ll make a personal jibe and bounce’

[Beso]

Originally Posted by Glenn.

The ole ‘I can’t dispute this so I’ll make a personal jibe and bounce’

I can dispute it..

You are blindly defending her because she is black, and you feel she is persecuted for that..

Even though you have admitted all the stories about her are negative ones, and therefore seeing the negative side to her, you still ignore the story and attack the people posting on tibb who are brave enough to air thier suspicions of her and them as a couple, and others will point out thier hypocrisy. But again you will attack that opinion on tibb whilst ignoring the story and the couples misgivings..

[jet]

Originally Posted by Glenn.

Prime example of an irrational thought process.

Meghan stated that part of the reason she wanted out of the UK was the racism ....so she moves to a country where racism is much worse. The only thing irrational here is Meghan's thought processes.

[Beso]

Originally Posted by jet

Meghan stated that part of the reason she wanted out of the UK was the racism ....so she moves to a country where racism is much worse. The only thing irrational here is Meghan's thought processes.

And Harry's choice in women.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by jet

Meghan stated that part of the reason she wanted out of the UK was the racism ....so she moves to a country where racism is much worse. The only thing irrational here is Meghan's thought processes.

Its to keep the victim narrative (just like with her poor father)

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by Swan

But again, if you're looking for racism you'll find it, even when it's not necessarily there. "exotic blood" could certainly suggest a racial undercurrent, in turn it could also suggest her 'american ism' Our press are dramatic to say the least, anyone outside the British Isles could easily be considered "exotic" by our sensationalist press. It's this strange Island mentality we have.

Im not saying it didn't have any racist undercurrents, but it's fair to look at this from every angle.

Their child would have been hounded by our press, problem is he'll also be hounded by the LA press too. Very, very strange place to set up home when you're 'wanting out' of the limelight, but that's been covered to death.

...I’m not looking for racism, Swan...people don’t look for racism, it finds its own targets to level its prejudice at...I also tend to look whichever way and whichever angle, etc in forming my own personal thoughts...and never in my entire life have I had American described as ‘exotic’...other than with Meghan ...and he mother described as ... ‘a dreadlocked African-American lady from the wrong side of the tracks’ which is most definitely a racist comment to have been made...

...with Archie..?...it’s also not about ‘hounding’ it’s again about a very racist inference that was ‘joked’ about him on social media...not a really encouraging beginning to his little life...and possibly an ‘ending’ for Harry and Meghan...

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

racism is a much bigger issue in the USA than it is here ... and where did they go?

...for Meghan it obviously wasn’t and isn’t a bigger issue in the USA, isn’t that one of the points ...it’s not really for us to say to those who have personal experiences of racism, where the biggest issue is in their lives, because the biggest issue is where and when they’re experiencing that prejudice...so it’s only for those people themselves to say, not anyone else...

[Glenn.]

Originally Posted by parmnion

I can dispute it..

You are blindly defending her because she is black, and you feel she is persecuted for that..

Even though you have admitted all the stories about her are negative ones, and therefore seeing the negative side to her, you still ignore the story and attack the people posting on tibb who are brave enough to air thier suspicions of her and them as a couple, and others will point out thier hypocrisy. But again you will attack that opinion on tibb whilst ignoring the story and the couples misgivings..

I’m not blindly defending her because she is black

I’m simply defending her from completely unwarranted hate

[Glenn.]

Originally Posted by jet

Meghan stated that part of the reason she wanted out of the UK was the racism ....so she moves to a country where racism is much worse. The only thing irrational here is Meghan's thought processes.

Whatever jet I’m literally bored to tears with you trying to justify your irrationality.

They didn’t want to leave the uk because of racism although that was part of the reason. It was the increasingly erratic abuse they were getting from the media and the sheep that blindly consume it.

[Beso]

Originally Posted by Glenn.

I’m not blindly defending her because she is black

I’m simply defending her from completely unwarranted hate

This hate word is tedious. Nobody on tibb hates her..

You are falling on deaf ears here. Try the dm website or Twitter where your efforts are needed more.

[Glenn.]

Originally Posted by parmnion

This hate word is tedious. Nobody on tibb hates her..

You are falling on deaf ears here. Try the dm website or Twitter where your efforts are needed more.

‘I can’t argue with what you’ve said I’ll tell you to go away’

[Beso]

Originally Posted by Glenn.

‘I can’t argue with what you’ve said I’ll tell you to go away’

I can debate(call it argue if you must, I'm not one to judge you on that)

Do you believe people on TIBB hate her?

[Glenn.]

Originally Posted by parmnion

I can debate(call it argue if you must, I'm not one to judge you on that)

Do you believe people on TIBB hate her?

I can only go on what I see posted and certain members are obsessed with picking her apart.

[Jessica.]

Originally Posted by Glenn.

I can only go on what I see posted and certain members are obsessed with picking her apart.

I think you're right. I don't even post in threads like this because people are so obsessed and it is actually sad to see them so hateful and toxic towards someone who has done nothing more than marry a royal, royalty means absolutely nothing, nobody deserves titles just because their parents had titles. It's silly to hold people to such standards and even worse to try to gatekeep who they can love.

[Beso]

Originally Posted by Glenn.

I can only go on what I see posted and certain members are obsessed with picking her apart.

Well she keeps putting herself out there for all to see and judge.

Like we do as a forum, and like we have always, and will always do as a forum, we judge her and others like her(Gemma, jade,kim)

I think you are beginning to overstep the mark with your personal hatred of people who do not put themselves in the limelight.

I base that on you agreeing that these are negative stories, but you are attacking someone even though you see the story the same way they do..

And the fact you keep saying argue instead of debate, its clear to me why you are here.

[Cherie]

The word 'irrational' must be worn out, lets club together and send it on holiday

[jet]

Originally Posted by Glenn.

Whatever jet I’m literally bored to tears with you trying to justify your irrationality.

They didn’t want to leave the uk because of racism although that was part of the reason. It was the increasingly erratic abuse they were getting from the media and the sheep that blindly consume it.

You are saying the same thing I did there.
I'm glad you are bored - does that mean you won't respond to my posts anymore? (Please say yes.)