[bots]

on the BBC .....

President Ashraf Ghani has left the country, reports say, quoting Afghan officials.

It comes as Taliban reached the outskirts of Kabul.

Vice-president Amrullah Saleh is also reported to have fled.

Mr Ghani has come under increasing pressure to resign as major cities around Afghanistan have fallen to Taliban militants over the course of 10 days.

[joeysteele]

We should have reassessed and not planned such a quick withdrawal.

MTVN pointed out Tom Tugendhat, the Chairman of the Foreign affairs Committee.

He describes this as Britain's biggest foreign policy disaster since Suez.
He stated the UK has ABANDONED the Afghan people.

In my view, he's dead right.

Too late to go back in now, although how many terrorist attacks will it take to happen in the UK and USA again now, before that may have to be risked.

Better to have kept things as stable as they were, than throw all away, the region again into chaos.
Endangering the UK and other parts of the World too.

[bots]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

We should have reassessed and not planned such a quick withdrawal.

MTVN pointed out Tom Tugendhat, the Chairman of the Foreign affairs Committee.

He describes this as Britain's biggest foreign policy disaster since Suez.
He stated the UK has ABANDONED the Afghan people.

In my view, he's dead right.

Too late to go back in now, although how many terrorist attacks will it take to happen in the UK and USA again now, before that may have to be risked.

Better to have kept things as stable as they were, than throw all away, the region again into chaos.
Endangering the UK and other parts of the World too.

It wasnt a UK decision, it was an international coalition that were in afghanistan. The UK doesn't have the resources to go it alone there

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

It wasnt a UK decision, it was an international coalition that were in afghanistan. The UK doesn't have the resources to go it alone there

I haven't heard us even warning or moaning about the early withdrawal.

Do we just crawl and follow others leads???
Or do we ever use our own voice??

Or did our government fully agree with doing what the USA wanted regardless of moral duty to others.

[arista]

Originally Posted by Cherie

I just heard on LBC that local forces have been in talks with the Taliban for weeks which is why they have offered no resistance

Why would you send troops back in now it would be a full on confrontation

Yes, a wise move.

Even China is in talks with the new power
The Taliban.

[bots]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

I haven't heard us even warning or moaning about the early withdrawal.

Do we just crawl and follow others leads???
Or do we ever use our own voice??

Or did our government fully agree with doing what the USA wanted regardless of moral duty to others.

the usa provided the command and control and the majority of the force, so while they will listen to what others say, their decision is final because the other countries couldn't operate without them

[Oliver_W]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

Reports saying the taliban have entered kabul and there was no resistance

Don't something like 99% of Afghanis want shariah law?

Talk about lost causes, why should western resources -and especially lives- be wasted on people who want to live under terrorism anyway?

edit: especially if the Taliban have been making deals with China and others, it's not worth all the conflict for people who don't want saving.

[arista]

Canada will accept 20,000 refugees

[arista]

Presidential Palace in Kabul
now is under Taliban control.

Reuters reported


No traditional government was set up
fast enough.



UK
Johnson PM another Cobra meeting.

[arista]

[arista]

[arista]

Its now Dark in Kabul
everyone advised to,
stay in their homes.

[arista]

[Afghanistan: First British troops begin deploying
to help evacuate remaining UK nationals

The Taliban seized Logar province
and all of its officials on Saturday,
local politician Hoda Ahmadi confirmed.]


https://news.sky.com/story/afghanist...warns-12381016

[bots]

There are reports of gunfire at Kabul's airport, according to a security alert just issued by the US Embassy.

Officials have instructed US citizens in the area to take shelter, as "the security situation in Kabul is changing quickly".

Any Americans who still require assistance to leave Kabul have been told to register online, after operations at the embassy concluded.

[arista]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

There are reports of gunfire at Kabul's airport, according to a security alert just issued by the US Embassy.

Officials have instructed US citizens in the area to take shelter, as "the security situation in Kabul is changing quickly".

Any Americans who still require assistance to leave Kabul have been told to register online, after operations at the embassy concluded.

Yes the Gunfire
was because to many were trying to get onto flights.

But now All Commercial Planes refuse to land, anyway.

Now Dark in Kabul
all instructed to stay home.



China is going to do new Deals
as they have accepted the Taliban
as the new Power of Afghanistan.



Ref: WION HD, TRTworldHD, SkyNewsHD, CNN HD USA live feed, LBC

[arista]

Johnson PM has been on all news and radio
after a 2nd Cobra Meeting.

He is talking about possible Nato?

But stays with his "dream" Diplomacy

[arista]

CNN HD Live reporter in Kabul
confirmed USA Military Planes are leaving in the Dark.
So many thousands to get out alive.

[arista]

[arista]

Ch4HDnews showed Video
of a massive crowd welcoming the new Taliban Power
in Kabul.

It also showed massive crowds outside
Banks in Kabul.
Rushing to get their money out
as the do trust the New Power.


[Afghans wait in long lines for hours to
try to withdraw money in front of
Kabul Bank after the Taliban
sought to gain control of the capital]

[arista]

[Taliban militants at the Presidential Palace in Kabul on Sunday]


https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...mbassador.html

[bots]

the gun on the table is so surreal

[Cherie]

Welcome to hell

[arista]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

the gun on the table is so surreal

Yes a big change.
Biden got it so wrong

[Oliver_W]

Originally Posted by arista

Yes a big change.
Biden got it so wrong

Both of the presidents got it wrong.

[arista]

Originally Posted by Oliver_W

Both of the presidents got it wrong.

Yes but Biden set this new date
and ignored his own Generals



Trump would have let the Taliban take full control
and get all out before. (if he was in power)