[Macie Lightfoot]

Originally Posted by reece(:

To play devil's advocate, Victoria was there 4 days and did a hell of a lot more/was memorable!

not to mention that Siavash was there for 93 days and his contributions were entirely negative :3

[Denver]

Beniazir edit was horrible we saw glimpses of her fun character but ultimately producers decided they didn't want her so didn't even edit her into the highlights

[reece(:]

Originally Posted by Jamie89

BB4 had some really good housemates (potentially), they just didn't work as a group, and because of the eviction order. But some of them, had they been in different series, would be remembered much more fondly... (or just 'remembered').



I don't remember her saying it to be honest, maybe I missed an episode. But to read it, it looks pretty bad so I can imagine how it'd be an unpopular opinion lol. I'll trust yours and Reece's judgement though since I didn't actually see how it was said (and I do find it hard to believe that Charley would intentionally try and insinuate something that sinister)

Youtube video

[Jason.]

Also by Jack's logic, she wouldn't have been interesting if she stayed. But then say if Sree went on Day 4 (even though he was just as meh as Beinazir in the first 4 days). That viewpoint would be rendered incorrect because in reality he ended up "contributing" to the series because he stayed longer.

[Macie Lightfoot]

Nobody even did anything in the first four episodes anyway because the episodes only showed people trying to get Housemate status. Like, we didn't learn anything about anyone and I can't think of a basis that people actually voted on (l m f a o @ it still resulting in an ethnic woman getting evicted. never change GBP )

[Denver]

Also they fixed it for their faves to stay.


Such as ringing the phone when the person they wanted was near it

[Jack_]

Originally Posted by Jason.

She was only there for 3 days. How do you know that? If it was one of the others (the people you claim contributed to the series) who was evicted on Day 4 instead, then wouldn't the same apply to them? But like you said they ended up contributing to the series...because they had the time and ended up staying, so Beinazir probably would've too had she been one of those people.

Because in those three days she did nothing of note that I remember or demonstrated that she may have had more to give? I mean don't get me wrong this was seven years ago and I'm not about to re-acquaint myself with the first three days of Big Brother 10 just to give me some leverage in an online debate so maybe I'm wrong but hey I've held this opinion ever since I watched the series originally so I don't see why it would change in hindsight? For me to think this the others must've jumped out at me more, idk

Originally Posted by reece(:

To play devil's advocate, Victoria was there 4 days and did a hell of a lot more/was memorable!

Precisely. If you wanna make an impact then gurl go and do it, there's no reason why you can't it's been done many times before.

Originally Posted by LukeB

Nearly everyone was pretty meh at the start tbh, that what made the twist more awful because they gave people 2/3 days to vote which was a bit stupid because that wasn't enough time to make a judgement. Someone can be 'boring' at first and be good value to the show in the future. It's happened before. It couldn't have been best for the show without a full judgement on that person.

I'm not saying I enjoyed the twist, I was indifferent to the whole thing tbh and I do agree that evictions shouldn't take place that early (nor for the first two weeks for that matter) but it is what it is and I don't remember caring for her that much, and dare I say it that had it been someone else who had fallen victim to that twist, say Marcus, as opposed to a female POC, I very much doubt anyone would still care and nor would we be having this conversation

[Pete.]

Victoria had clothes though

[reece(:]

Originally Posted by Pete.

Victoria had clothes though

Ha titties were out tho

[Pete.]

Originally Posted by reece(:

Ha titties were out tho

A game changer

[Denver]

What did Victoria actually bring? She was nasty and thought she was better then anyone

[LukeB]

Originally Posted by Jack_

I'm not saying I enjoyed the twist, I was indifferent to the whole thing tbh and I do agree that evictions shouldn't take place that early (nor for the first two weeks for that matter) but it is what it is and I don't remember caring for her that much, and dare I say it that had it been someone else who had fallen victim to that twist, say Marcus, as opposed to a female POC, I very much doubt anyone would still care and nor would we be having this conversation

I know I would still be annoyed at the twist whoever it was but it was one of those unfair twists and it creates a what if which can be annoying. But would you be saying it was for the best if someone like Sree/Siavash went? because it works both ways that comment does . It's not really about who went, I like Beinazir even after 4 days but it's about judging someone over a lil amount of time. Infact the whole become a housemate took most of the air time so we didn't see any characters becoming a character until after that eviction. And we had 2/1 day to vote too. So it would have been a terrible choice anyway. I would be saying this if that chav called Lisa went too.

[Jack_]

Originally Posted by LukeB

I know I would still be annoyed at the twist whoever it was but it was one of those unfair twists and it creates a what if which can be annoying. But would you be saying it was for the best if someone like Sree/Siavash went? because it works both ways that comment does . It's not really about who went, I like Beinazir even after 4 days but it's about judging someone over a lil amount of time. Infact the whole become a housemate took most of the air time so we didn't see any characters becoming a character until after that eviction. And we had 2/1 day to vote too. So it would have been a terrible choice anyway. I would be saying this if that chav called Lisa went too.

Probably not, but that's because from what I can remember I wanted Beinazir to leave cause she stood out the least to me (although actually maybe Siavash was the backup idk, I'd need to find my old posts or something) and actually I never really did like Sree, although I appreciated his value as a housemate

Maybe people did see something in her idk but I still really don't think anyone would have cared as much as they have about her over the years had it been one of the males...

[Jason.]

I low-key stanned Danniella Westbrook in the latest CBB.

I cackled when she went out the fire escape like 6 times <33

And she clocked Steph's trampy ways so that wins her some bonus points too

[Jason.]

(having said that how she got as far as she did, I'll never know)

[Pete.]

I loved Daniella

[LukeB]

Originally Posted by Jack_

Probably not, but that's because from what I can remember I wanted Beinazir to leave cause she stood out the least to me (although actually maybe Siavash was the backup idk, I'd need to find my old posts or something) and actually I never really did like Sree, although I appreciated his value as a housemate

Maybe people did see something in her idk but I still really don't think anyone would have cared as much as they have about her over the years had it been one of the males...

Maybe

There are some examples of this kind of stuff but that name would bring up a 700 page discussion on it so i won't go there.

I remember hating the twist because of who went when it aired but on my re-watch things changed in my mind so i pretty much would have disliked if Marcus went(who I actually warmed to a bit) because I remember hating him, hence going on chat rooms and getting random people to vote Marcus's number to save Noirin,.. I was 15

[reece(:]

Danniella was great as Gemma's beta

[Heaven = Winner]

Belinda Belinda Belinda was the best part of BB9

[Dominic]

Ashleigh Coyle isn't just a cute mean pretty girl or whatever the haters think people stan her for. She's an iconic queen of manipulating, dragging and shading the evil, going from a UTR 'who?' to OTTN ice princess hated by the public to the fan favourite.

Her style and outfit alternation reflect her character and what a gem she is. We have the pretty pink princess and then the leather jacketed ice queen aesthetics

[kirklancaster]

Originally Posted by Jay.

i don't really care for the producer manipulation it's just a tv show imo

i can't think of anything else atm

[KingPrawn]

Nikki and Pete were both as fake as each other over their supposed romance.

Nikki jumped on the "I love bandwagon" when she heard most of the other housemates (i.e. Sezer and George) state that Pete was going to win. She knew that a romance with Pete would help her financially.

Pete suddenly fell in "love" with Nikki when she was evicted. Or did he reason that Nikki got all those cheers when she was evicted because she was very popular and that she had been evicted because people were sorry for her and he would be less liked now because he had hurt Nikki by flirting with Aisleyne in front of her.

[Amy Jade]

Ashleigh, Gina and Toya ate three of the worst housemates who are held is a weird high regard on here.

• Ashleigh was boring, most of the time she sat around and moaned about Helen rather than creating good TV and confronting her, had she gotten a pair of balls and told Helen some home truths she would have won but she was just a bull bore who occasionally spoke up.

• Toya was fine at first she had a nice build but she peaked way too early and went into overdrive and made a fool of herself in the final week, her eviction was hilarious because she thought taking on Helen would save her...wrong.

• Gina is a bully, she picked on Jemima, Sallie and Hazel all because they were prettier than her and she had deluded herself she was the prettiest girl in there, all three look and STILL look better than Gina.

[MB.]

Originally Posted by Amy Jade

Ashleigh, Gina and Toya ate three of the worst housemates

Oh really, which ones?

[Dominic]

Originally Posted by Amy Jade

Ashleigh, Gina and Toya ate three of the worst housemates who are held is a weird high regard on here.

• Ashleigh was boring, most of the time she sat around and moaned about Helen rather than creating good TV and confronting her, had she gotten a pair of balls and told Helen some home truths she would have won but she was just a bull bore who occasionally spoke up.

• Toya was fine at first she had a nice build but she peaked way too early and went into overdrive and made a fool of herself in the final week, her eviction was hilarious because she thought taking on Helen would save her...wrong.

• Gina is a bully, she picked on Jemima, Sallie and Hazel all because they were prettier than her and she had deluded herself she was the prettiest girl in there, all three look and STILL look better than Gina.