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Angela Rayner has been re-elected! Get her running the Labour Party!
Agreed, she’s brilliant. Her in charge with Jess Phillips second in command!
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As I said, isn't the map hugely illustrative? "The United Kingdom of England, Scotland and Northern Ireland". United lol.

The three countries are completely different colours on the election map. We are evidently not politically united. NONE of the three. It's a joke.
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Congrats Boris on your massive massive win, now one thing protect the NHS from Trump's greasy fingers, man up and be the boss in that trade deal with america

don't let trump control you or britain
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Whyyy is Corbyn not stepping down immediately? He's not doing Labour any good by lingering like a bad smell. The current Gov needs as an effective Opposition as soon as possible. Him dithering and clinging on isn't helping anyone.
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Whyyy is Corbyn not stepping down immediately? He's not doing Labour any good by lingering like a bad smell. The current Gov needs as an effective Opposition as soon as possible. Him dithering and clinging on isn't helping anyone.

He is looking for someone he wants to take
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Whyyy is Corbyn not stepping down immediately? He's not doing Labour any good by lingering like a bad smell. The current Gov needs as an effective Opposition as soon as possible. Him dithering and clinging on isn't helping anyone.
Corbyn is a great candidate and labour is very lucky to have him <3 People are masochists and continue to vote against their own self interests.. brexit was always gonna win, nothing to do with how good or not good Corbyn is.
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I don’t think you’re in any position to decide who’s clever, when you’re just as irrational when it comes to politics
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I don’t think you’re in any position to decide who’s clever, when you’re just as irrational when it comes to politics
I will gladly pitch my intelligence against yours Elliot. Any day of the week.

Tired of being told I'm stupid.
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He isnt

they are not

no they are not

brexit is a process not a thing


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it is
now our rioting can start, our protests, boycotts
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And what rioting are you going to take part in, when you’ve made statements about backing the brexit party? Isn’t this what you wanted?
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worst labour result since the 1930s - ie before just about anyone was born


wrong leader who keeps the wrong company
no brexit stance
hand wringing campaign of BS about the NHS
very little positive message
awful nationalisation idea
london politicians telling northern labour voters they did not no what they voted for in referendum
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worst labour result since the 1930s - ie before just about anyone was born


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no brexit stance
hand wringing campaign of BS about the NHS
very little positive message
awful nationalisation idea
london politicians telling northern labour voters they did not no what they voted for in referendum
I think that's a Mathematical Fractal of what one of their biggest problems was. Labour in its current form just doesn't seem or act like the party for the working class across the country, but rather for London based middle class people who drink champaign while raising money for the school down the road.

Those who represented the party in the media didn't help - Emily Thornberry comes off as the sneering elite, Dianne Abbott is an "exceptional individual", Jess Phillips is a shrill crybaby...

The only likeable ones we see much of are Sir Kier, and the woman who usually sits next to Corbyn at PMQs.
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worst labour result since the 1930s - ie before just about anyone was born


wrong leader who keeps the wrong company
no brexit stance
hand wringing campaign of BS about the NHS
very little positive message
awful nationalisation idea
london politicians telling northern labour voters they did not no what they voted for in referendum
I'm not relitigating the Corbyn smears - been done to death.
Corbyn was appalling on brexit from the start, trying to play it down the middle pissed off everyone
The hand wringing campaign was 100% truthful. By any measure the NHS is in a state now compared to when the tories took over, waiting times, funding, and all the professional organisations backed this up. The willingness of people to accept foreigners as the root cause rather than a right wing ideology os the problem.
Labour ran a positive campaign about the things they wanted to do, tories ran from scrutiny, Johnson literally hiding in fridges and taking journo's phones off them to avoid looking at a sick child lying on a hospital floor.
The nationalisation ideas are extremely popular in national polling of people on all sides.
They didn't know what they were voting for - Farag said Johnsons Brexit was brexit in name only, Johnson said he had the perfect brexit. If 2 of the main players can't agree on what it actually is, then how can you expect 17m people to all know what it is?
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