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I was having a look around Union Jack/right wing Twitter this morning, because I hate myself, did you know there are a scary amount of people who believe all of this was a hoax just to get people to take a vaccine that will actually infect and kill people? It’s like a whole other planet
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I was having a look around Union Jack/right wing Twitter this morning, because I hate myself, did you know there are a scary amount of people who believe all of this was a hoax just to get people to take a vaccine that will actually infect and kill people? It’s like a whole other planet

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there are lots of workarounds that schools could implement to start getting kids back to school. They want to find problems, not solutions, thats where the issue is at the moment
..it’s not though where any ‘issue’ is at, that’s not something I’ve found in any school I know...schools are looking for solutions so that they can open...but it still remains that there are some ‘problems’ and those problems won’t be the same for every school ...so each one is risk assessing and each one will ‘open’ in a different way and at the pace they feel is safe to do so...not all schools are the same in terms of their premises and staff and families etc so it’s not something that we be allowed size fits all’...it’s extremely unfair to say that schools are looking for problems rather than solutions because that’s very much the opposite for the main...
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I was having a look around Union Jack/right wing Twitter this morning, because I hate myself, did you know there are a scary amount of people who believe all of this was a hoax just to get people to take a vaccine that will actually infect and kill people? It’s like a whole other planet
...you looney...put your device down and start your day all over again on the right side of the internet...(...you know what I mean.....)...
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[Coronavirus: Bank of England expands
crisis QE (Quantitative Easing)programme to £300bn

Minutes of the meeting showed there
was dissent in the ranks as the Bank committee
voted to increase its QE target.]

https://news.sky.com/story/coronavir...300bn-12009510

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QE
Print the Cash Method.


Used back in the New Labour
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quantitative_easing

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Could they not start with half in on a weekly rota, the half at home could either have set work or where possible log in so they attend the classroom virtually?
From what we've been told, when my daughter's school goes back it will be half in Monday/Tuesday, half in Wednesday/Thursday with work set to complete at home for days they aren't in. No one in on a Friday.

My youngest, because she's special education, it works slightly differently. Still only in two days a week so fewer in her class at one time, but they're not expected to social distance, it'll be small "pods" of staff and students (her whole class is only 8 kids, so will be only 4 in a group) and if one person is ill then the whole "pod" stays home for two weeks (or until a test confirms it isn't Covid).

Its far from ideal but its better than the current situation where frankly some kids (and its the most vulnerable kids, who are already behind) simply aren't doing any school work at all.
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Cruise Ships and Ferry's
are getting ready for half the amount on the ship
with a mask on,
Except in the Spread out eating rooms.

They must start trading by next week
they say.

Ref: BBCnewsHD report



They are waiting for Johnson PM
to give them a direction.

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Used back in the New Labour
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quantitative_easing
"Print more cash method" is another way of saying magic money free .

The real drawbacks to QE is that it's a slight gamble as it can can lead to an accidental interest rate spike if not controlled properly. It also devalues the currency internationally which would normally mean increased cost of imported goods and products, but that's less of a risk in this case because the EU and US are likely to be engaging in similar QE policies so the devaluation will be in step with our biggest trading partners. It might mean that imports from Asia cost more which will have a knock on effect on things like consumer electronics, cars etc (anything that has components made in Asia basically). But then, China has a history of deliberately keeping its currency artificially low to dominate the exports markets so...
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with a mask on,
Except in the Spread out eating rooms.

They must start trading be next week
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Heh, who's going to go on a cruise where they have to wear a mask the whole time? It'll only work if they're cut-price cruises... And cut-price cruises at half capacity are not going to keep companies afloat for long.
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Heh, who's going to go on a cruise where they have to wear a mask the whole time? It'll only work if they're cut-price cruises... And cut-price cruises at half capacity are not going to keep companies afloat for long.
No mask in the big eating places
everyone is spread out.
As it half the amount on every ship


Yes it will be hard with fewer customers
maybe a slight price increase could be added.
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"The real drawbacks to QE is that it's a slight gamble"


Of course, but there is little else they can do.
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They are waiting for Johnson PM
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Just head for France ...



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it's kind of half right though

Of course it's not a hoax, but if we do get a vaccine available within the next year, it will have been created by cutting a lot of corners, i don't think I would trust it, and with these things the side effects may not become apparent for 5-10 years, and, if they have just dosed most of the world population with it, i can't see them being to quick to admit there was a problem with it
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Of course it's not a hoax, but if we do get a vaccine available within the next year, it will have been created by cutting a lot of corners, i don't think I would trust it, and with these things the side effects may not become apparent for 5-10 years, and, if they have just dosed most of the world population with it, i can't see them being to quick to admit there was a problem with it
You can't have a rational debate about vaccination on the Internet these days; either they are a flawless and risk-free path to guaranteed immunity, or you're branded an anti-vax nutter .
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However, he is to me anyway, a walking disaster all through on this pandemic.

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