[arista]

[user104658]

Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper

What are we classing as hard evidence?

Like you, I'm not saying they 100% haven't or wouldn't, I just haven't seen anything beyond propaganda suggesting or showing it.

Everything else, I 100% agree with.

To be fair I haven't seen any verified evidence - I am inclined to believe that it happens at times. Just not in anywhere near even half the cases where it's claimed as justification. It's a very convenient get-out-of-jail-free card when it comes to mindless collateral damage.

[UserSince2005]

Isreal are bossing this war haha

[Oliver_W]

Originally Posted by UserSince2005

Isreal are bossing this war haha

Of course they are, they could obliterate Palestine if they wanted.

[Nicky91]

Originally Posted by UserSince2005

Isreal are bossing this war haha

making the wrong choices, you mean


you cannot bomb a hospital, IDF should've worked more closer with the US, with the latter sending navy seals commando's or something, alongside mossad commandos for a much cleaner approach in taking out the Hamas terrorists below the hospital

[bots]

if they are taking out terrorists and their tunnels, they are obviously making the right choices

[Liam-]

There is no justification to just bombing hospitals or residential buildings and killing however many innocent civilians they want to

[Oliver_W]

Originally Posted by Liam-

There is no justification to just bombing hospitals or residential buildings and killing however many innocent civilians they want to

True.

But there's also no justification to using such buildings as a base for terrorist actions, and using innocent people as human shields.

(two wrongs don't make a right though, obviously)

[Nicky91]

Originally Posted by Oliver_W

True.

But there's also no justification to using such buildings as a base for terrorist actions, and using innocent people as human shields.

(two wrongs don't make a right though, obviously)

yeah well Hamas know that Netanyahu is literally so stupid he would still bomb them no matter what


so Netanyahu does exactly what Hamas wants, like the good lapdog that he is


that is why he really should've approached the US for more help, from navy seals, combined with the superstealth qualities of their own mossad

[Oliver_W]

Originally Posted by Nicky91

yeah well Hamas know that Netanyahu is literally so stupid he would still bomb them no matter what


so Netanyahu does exactly what Hamas wants, like the good lapdog that he is

And he still cares more about them than Hamas.

[Nicky91]

Originally Posted by Oliver_W

And he still cares more about them than Hamas.

this conflict has been going on longer than Hamas exists



75 years of hatred from Israel towards Palestine



and not just towards Palestine but to more asian countries, which is why that football federation expelled them and they came on hands and knees to the UEFA


i know my history facts/stats about Israel

[joeysteele]

I'm left wrestling with the correct fact that I do believe that the evil Hamas do set out to use Palestinian civilians as shields.
They are evil to purposely put those civilians lives at great risk.

I wrestle too however that those Palestinian civilians lives in great risk are then while put in danger by Hamas, those lives are then taken by Isrseli action.

Yes it's war, one that hasn't just been going on for just over 4 weeks now but for a very long time.

I don't think it right that Israeli lives are taken but then I don't think it acceptable either that Palestinian civilian lives are wiped out too.

I am dismayed at our governnent and the opposition plus the USA and EU Nations who are not calling for more and actively doing more to get this killing halted.
Both from what happened on October 7th by Hamas and now since then by the Israeli government.

If most of the World isn't on the side of protecting civilian lives everywhere, then we really are in a very dark and dangerous place.
Allowing it to begin and go on and on.and ON.

[Nicky91]

yes what Hamas do is very evil too

am not denying that


just think IDF needed to use their common sense a lot more, also having in mind that the US Navy Seals special forces are one of the world's best in taking out terrorists, whom also eliminated Bin Laden for example

[user104658]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

if they are taking out terrorists and their tunnels, they are obviously making the right choices

There's nothing obvious about it. Again to use the same allegory I've used before - no one would see a school shooting in place, watch the police set fire to the school killing everyone inside, and then claim they "obviously" made the right choice because they got the shooter.

[Oliver_W]

Originally Posted by Soldier Boy

There's nothing obvious about it. Again to use the same allegory I've used before - no one would see a school shooting in place, watch the police set fire to the school killing everyone inside, and then claim they "obviously" made the right choice because they got the shooter.

Not only that, but bombing schools and hospitals only encourages Hamas to keep using them as bases, as Israel attacks always garners sympathy for their side.

[arista]

Another Large
Pro Palestine Protest Outside Westminster.

Just Live on Ch5HDNews Live
the reporter said it was meant to be
Small protest


SNP have brought a vote
on Ceasefire

Many Labour are backing it.

[arista]

SkyNewsHD
outside at Westminster
thinks it is around 500 protestors

[arista]

Many are now Climbing on the Security Barriers
at Westminster

Live on GBnewsHD

[Oliver_W]

Originally Posted by arista

Many are now Climbing on the Security Barriers
at Westminster

Live on GBnewsHD

How does anyone get that invested in one of many foreign wars?

I think there should be ceasefires all over the place, but I'm not gonna go to that London because of it. (and then go climbing up things)

[arista]

[arista]

Last Night

[Nicky91]

Originally Posted by arista

Owen spilling so many truths here



double standards much from the west



if you sanction Russia, then also hand out those sanctions to Israel

[arista]

Still no law enforced
to stop these

[arista]

Yesterday

[arista]