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Old 03-10-2019, 10:35 AM #1
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Unless this deal is acceptable to the Republic of Ireland.
Then only is it warranting support.

The Independent Sylvia Hermon MP from N Ireland seems to me, to be talking the most sense.

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You can make polls work however you want, you just have to ask the right people.

However, real evidence was in the referendum where we voted to leave.
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You can make polls work however you want, you just have to ask the right people.

However, real evidence was in the referendum where we voted to leave.
I agree; you have to poll 18-25yr olds to find out what 18-25yr olds think.
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I agree; you have to poll 18-25yr olds to find out what 18-25yr olds think.
You'd have to ask every 18-25 year old, with proof that you asked every 18-25 year old and proof of all their answers.

Did this happen? How many of them refused to answer? how many of them lied? How many of them were out on the day this poll came knocking on their door?

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You'd have to ask every 18-25 year old, with proof that you asked every 18-25 year old and proof of all their answers.

Did this happen? How many of them refused to answer? how many of them lied? How many of them were out on the day this poll came knocking on their door?
I do love your situational desire to scrutinise issues. You follow me down this path every time, and I love illuminating it
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Lets be real. If there was another referendum, remain would win at least 60:40. Probs way more.

People change their mind when faced with 4 years of migraines... and old people die a lot.
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Lets be real. If there was another referendum, remain would win at least 60:40. Probs way more.

People change their mind when faced with 4 years of migraines... and old people die a lot.
Actually people just want out and to be done with it, but going back in the original vote would destroy the country
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Actually people just want out and to be done with it, but going back in the original vote would destroy the country
If you think us leaving means we'll be done with it, then you're seriously misguided. That would be just the beginning as then we'd have to start negotiating deals from a position of extreme and self inflicted weakness.
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Actually people just want out and to be done with it, but going back in the original vote would destroy the country
I think the majority would actually want in and to be done with it because they like food and medicine etc.
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Lets be real. If there was another referendum, remain would win at least 60:40. Probs way more.

People change their mind when faced with 4 years of migraines... and old people die a lot.
Nah, it would be 50/50 again. Maybe swing 52/48 to remain, maybe stay exactly what it was, because 2% either way is a pretty standard error margin. Nothing has changed in the public mindset. The people who voted for Brexit didn't understand the consequences then, and they don't understand them now.

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Nah, it would be 50/50 again. Maybe swing 52/48 to remain, maybe stay exactly what it was, because 2% either way is a pretty standard error margin. Nothing has changed in the public mindset. The people who voted for Brexit didn't understand the consequences then, and they don't understand them now.
I disagree. I know a lot of people my age that wouldn’t dream of voting leave again. And far more leavers have died than remainers. And most of the new voters would be remainers too.

60:40 at least imo.
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I disagree. I know a lot of people my age that wouldn’t dream of voting leave again. And far more leavers have died than remainers. And most of the new voters would be remainers too.

60:40 at least imo.
I think another referendum would be as close as before.

The trouble with it is that it is being promoted by people who supported remain before and still want to remain, rather than people who voted leave before and have changed their minds.

A lot of leave voters, in the event of a new referendum, would think that their vote didn't count the first time.

I think leave would be the favourite to win again - I don't see much evidence of many changed minds.

I'd give remain no more than a 1 in 3 chance of winning.

But even in the event of remain winning a new vote we have consider the after effects - what you would get is a block of voters who vote for an anti-EU party at every forthcoming election, and the issue would never go away.

The best option is to leave with a deal.
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Nah, it would be 50/50 again. Maybe swing 52/48 to remain, maybe stay exactly what it was, because 2% either way is a pretty standard error margin. Nothing has changed in the public mindset. The people who voted for Brexit didn't understand the consequences then, and they don't understand them now.
Well, given they write every little thing off as 'fear mongering'. Heads in sand, purposely.
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Well, given they write every little thing off as 'fear mongering'. Heads in sand, purposely.
I think there'd be enough of a percentage of swing voters that would swing things back to Remain but, tbh, that would just lead to years and years of Brexiter tantrums and enough tears of red faced manchildren to salt the water supply.

Another referendum would just lead to another and another. Leaving with a deal is the only real option we have.
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I think there'd be enough of a percentage of swing voters that would swing things back to Remain but, tbh, that would just lead to years and years of Brexiter tantrums and enough tears of red faced manchildren to salt the water supply.

Another referendum would just lead to another and another. Leaving with a deal is the only real option we have.
tbf this is what remainers are currently doing, so we really couldn't complain too much if that happened

I do agree leaving with a deal is now the only palatable option
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Lets be real. If there was another referendum, remain would win at least 60:40. Probs way more.

People change their mind when faced with 4 years of migraines... and old people die a lot.

If there was another vote, people who voted Leave would refuse to vote based on the failure of democracy, so it’s pretty obvious who would win...it proves nothing!...but it won’t happen
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Get brexit done is a typical con slogan

There are several years ahead of negotiations over trade


No matter, younger voters will reverse this by rejoining in future
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