[arista]

BBC:

[18:26
Hamas reportedly handing over more
hostages to the Red Cross

Israeli media and international news agencies
are reporting that the next group of hostages
are being handed over by Hamas to
humanitarian organisation the International
Committee of the Red Cross (ICRC).

Today's planned release is part of a
two-day extension
to a pause in the fighting that'll see
Hamas release hostages - and, in exchange,
Palestinian prisoners released by Israel.]

[Liam-]

Anybody want to mention the hostages released by Israel that have told of their abuse, both physical and sexual? No?

[The Slim Reaper]

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Liam-

Anybody want to mention the hostages released by Israel that have told of their abuse, both physical and sexual? No?

There are no winners in this, both are as bad as each other

that said these are innocent kids who have done nothing to Palestinians

[Oliver_W]

Originally Posted by Liam-

Anybody want to mention the hostages released by Israel that have told of their abuse, both physical and sexual? No?

No-one's said anything about how clean and well-cared for the prisoners released by Israel appeared to be.

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Oliver_W

No-one's said anything about how clean and well-cared for the prisoners released by Israel appeared to be.

Indeed, also I don't know how you can be so concerned about the safety of Palestinian families but not Israeli families, both are at the mercy of their governments decisions

[Cherie]

Israel today said it is checking claims by Hamas that Kfir Babis, a baby who was snatched and taken into Gaza by the terrorists, was killed in an Israeli airstrike alongside his mother and brother.

Hamas' armed wing Al-Qassam Brigades claimed, without providing evidence, that the 10-month-old baby, his mother Shiri Silberman-Babis, 30, and four-year-old brother Ariel, were killed in an Israeli bombardment before the truce was announced.

Kfir's father Yarden, who was taken hostage by the terrorists, was not mentioned in the statement.

The Israeli military said it is checking the claims by Hamas that the little baby was killed alongside his mother and brother while they were being kept hostage by the terrorists.

The world had watched in horror on October 7 when footage emerged of Hamas terrorists dragging Shiri and her young family from their home in Nir Oz Kibbutz towards a waiting car.

Video showed the sobbing mother clutching onto Kfir and Ariel as they were kidnapped, as horrified neighbours screamed: 'She has a baby.'

The family had not been heard from since but there were hopes that they would be released by Hamas as part of a prisoner exchange during the truce between Israel and the terrorist group.

But Hamas today claimed - without providing evidence - that Kfir, Shiri and Ariel were killed in an Israeli airstrike on Gaza in the days before the truce was announced



Convenient, just as it emerged this family had been handed over to Islamic Jihad

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...ther-Gaza.html

[arista]

[arista]

Soon,
the 6th Group of Hostages is expected to be freed.


Loads of Ambulances are standing by
at the Egypt-Gaza Border Crossing


Ref: FoxNewsHD Live (online only)/CNN HD USA

[Ninastar]

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Ninastar

it kinda ties in with some hostages being taken to the Al Shifa hospital and two being found dead in the grounds

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Ninastar

Not to question the accuracy of Israeli televised news as the source, but it's barely possible for a healthy adult to survive 50 days without food, essentially impossible for a child to survive 50 days without food, and even if technically possible not without being in the severe stages of starvation (i.e. coma, beginning organ failure).

Not passing comment on the actual conditions hostages were kept in (I can't find any good sources on that), just saying that the claim of 50 days without being given any food is patently false.

[Livia]

The version I read was that the child was "barely fed". But, let's wait for the Hamas version to please all contributors to the thread.

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Livia

The version I read was that the child was "barely fed". But, let's wait for the Hamas version to please all contributors to the thread.

Or we could rely solely on first-person accounts from source instead of any "version".

[Cherie]

Hamas have fired at Israel, war is back on

[arista]

Originally Posted by Cherie

Hamas have fired at Israel, war is back on

Yes sad.

Hamas want all Israeli's killed

[Oliver_W]

Originally Posted by arista

Yes sad.

Hamas want all Israeli's killed

That's pretty much their charter.

[Livia]

Originally Posted by Nicky91

yeah and Israel wants to get rid of all other religions, and their religion being the only one in the world



yes i know my stuff on religions (wikipedia exists)

One shred of proof for this comment please.

Judaism doesn't recruit. If someone wants to become a Jew then they may, if they're serious.

You make anti-Semitic comments - like this one - while claiming you're not an anti-Semite. You make completely untrue claims while claiming to "know your stuff" on religion.

[Nicky91]

Originally Posted by Cherie

Hamas have fired at Israel, war is back on

how do we for sure know it was Hamas who fired at Israel?


IDF saying so, but i don't believe them for one bit anymore, and btw they knew about Hamas their invasion plans, and they did nothing to prevent that, in the beginning of this recent conflict which led to 10.000 israeli deaths and kidnappings at a festival


they are just as criminal as the CIA has been of having been aware of the 9/11 terror plans

[Livia]

Originally Posted by Cherie

Hamas have fired at Israel, war is back on

Yesterday four people were killed and five injured, shot while standing at a bus stop in Jerusalem. Hamas claimed responsibility. I'd say the truce ended then.

[Ninastar]

I mean I kind of assumed he must have been fed something every once in a while to keep from dying but I guess a little bit of food is better than no food. Thanks Hamas!

[The Slim Reaper]

This is obviously mistreatment (if the report is true), but maybe it's a good way to start a discussion on Israel having the ability to starve and limit food into Gaza to begin with and have been doing so since way before October 7th.

Food insecurity and starvation is also part of collective punishment and is considered a war crime

https://www.oxfam.org/en/press-relea...ivilians-oxfam

Starvation as weapon of war being used against Gaza civilians - Oxfam

[bots]

In the last hour, Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu has said Hamas did not agree to release further hostages, which violated the terms of the truce.

Hamas did not release all women hostages as agreed and attacked Israel with rockets this morning, Netanyahu's office adds.

In a statement on social media, his office says Israel remains committed to achieving its objectives - to free hostages, eliminate Hamas and to "ensure that Gaza will never pose a threat to the residents of Israel".

[Nicky91]

there's no good guys in this conflict honestly


i feel bad for the israeli people because of such morons of the IDF and a idiot like Netanyahu in power


i feel bad for the palestinians in gaza, because of crazy lunatics of Hamas who do not care about its citizens (going as far as hiding behind them, using its citizens as human shields)




i do not like Benny's tone there

"ensure that Gaza will never pose a threat to the residents of Israel".




just get rid of Hamas and the palestinians won't pose a threat anymore, not wiping them out completely (otherwise i hope the EU will sanction Israel quite heavily and i hope EBU will kick them out for a 2 or 3 year long ban due to committed war crimes, same what they did to belarus and russia basically)


fighting terrorists okay, but don't go too far into making it a full genocide of gaza

[Liam-]