[Twosugars]

Originally Posted by Nicky91

EU says no

once out, Always out

[Tom4784]

A delay is the only real option if they aren't going to go for the deal and I don't blame people for not going for Boris' deal since it won't prevent problems from arising with Ireland.

No deal is not an option and they need more time to sort out the backstop issue.

[Tom4784]

If there was another referendum, we'd get similar margins but reversed and then we'd inevitably end up with a third referendum down the line.

There will never be a definitive majority on whether or not we should remain or leave and so how we leave must be a compromise which is with a deal. You cannot justify a no deal brexit with only a few percent difference in votes.

[Twosugars]

You cant make an informed decision without knowing facts

How can you appreciate the backstop without knowing we dont own Ireland for example?

[user104658]

Though I agree there's no point in trying to "remain" at this point, as it'll only draw the disagreement out forever.

The only sensible option at this point is to leave the "full" EU but maintain a customs and freedom of movement union, and then try to gradually step it up to be as close to full economic membership as possible.

[Twosugars]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

Though I agree there's no point in trying to "remain" at this point, as it'll only draw the disagreement out forever.

The only sensible option at this point is to leave the "full" EU but maintain a customs and freedom of movement union, and then try to gradually step it up to be as close to full economic membership as possible.

Absolutely.

Brexiters need to taste their own medicine first

Let's give them a chance to show us those sun lit uplands of brexit cant wait

[Cherie]

I am also of the opinion now that there is no point in a second referendum, the show must go on now, come what may

[Alf]

Originally Posted by Twosugars

Absolutely.

Brexiters need to taste their own medicine first

Let's give them a chance to show us those sun lit uplands of brexit cant wait

Rule Britannia
Brittania rule the waves
Brittons never, never, never shall be slaves

[Twosugars]

Originally Posted by Alf

Rule Britannia
Brittania rules the waves
Brittons never, never, never shall be slaves

We dont rule the waves anymore. Not for a long while.

But prepare to be slaves to america, china...and the eu

[arista]

Originally Posted by Twosugars

We dont rule the waves anymore. Not for a long while.

But prepare to be slaves to America, China...and the eu

Never
Silly words from you
even if in jest...................

[The Slim Reaper]

Originally Posted by Alf

Rule Britannia
Brittania rule the waves
Brittons never, never, never shall be slaves

We just had the contract to move slaves around the world, on those waves we ruled.

[joeysteele]

I'm with the Republic of Ireland.
It shouldn't be an assembly, DUP dominated, that should be able to end the single market suggestion if in place.

Definitely Lady Harmen talks the most sense re N Ireland.
As does the Republic of Ireland and all other Parties, except for the extreme DUP.

So without the Republic of Ireland content with any deal, this is a deal then I could not agree with, if I had a vote.

I think it wrong that politicians and some voters across the UK.
Are just dismissing the concerns of N Ireland.

Just about every sector.
Businesses, the majority of voters. The Parties of N Ireland and the Republic of Ireland.
Are all really worried except the extremist DUP.

That concern will be ignored to the shame of the UK or what's left of it, after brexit.
IF, any deal is not 100% right for the Irish.

No deal would as near sure as can be, catastrophic.

[Alf]

Listen to Peter Hirchens, a full on Trotskyist, Marxist in his younger days, then he grew up.

[Twosugars]

Originally Posted by Alf

Listen to Peter Hirchens, a full on Trotskyist, Marxist in his younger days, then he grew up.

I'd rather not take a daily hail journo as an example

[The Slim Reaper]

Originally Posted by Alf

Listen to Peter Hirchens, a full on Trotskyist, Marxist in his younger days, then he grew up.

Or his brother, also a trotskyite that remained of the left, or how about Elizabeth Warren, a conservative in her younger days but now a liberal. It's a myth that people grow into conservatism later in life. Some do, some don't. Same as liberalism.

[Alf]

Winston Churchill. A Liberal in his younger days, but became a Conservative as he matured.

[Parmy]

Well done Boris for pledging to raise the minimum wage to 10.50...That's a massive hike and will make our foreign friends think twice about leaving, thus stopping everyone flapping thier arms about.

[arista]

Send him Home
get the under study there

[Twosugars]

Originally Posted by arista

Send him Home
get the under study there

One of the greatest speakers, saved our parliamentary democracy together the the supreme court
In your face bojo

[arista]

Originally Posted by Twosugars

One of the greatest speakers, saved our parliamentary democracy together the the supreme court
In your face bojo

He Used to be Good
then he broke the impartial rules

As his Voice has Gone
he is no good
he needs to rest his voice

[arista]

You Tell them , Love

[Parmy]

I don't know one lazy person over the age of 70...what a dreadful thing to say...

[user104658]

Originally Posted by parmnion

I don't know one lazy person over the age of 70...

Not one? What a heap of utterly ludicrous shyte, Parm.

[Parmy]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

Not one? What a heap of utterly ludicrous shyte, Parm.

Nope..not one..my mum and all her friends are constantly on the golf course or socialising if they ain't looking after the grand kids or picking up the pissed grand daughter from the pub..

My dad's mates are the same..he's gone now but was working away on his bike until a few months before he died..my uncle died a few.months ago..the doctors had to drag him of his push bike and he was 82..


So no I don't know any that are lazy, so to say that old people are is ridiculous.

Im sure there are though , like the ones that prop up the bar along side the coke snorting, pool playing scruffy youths on a Tuesday afternoon though..

[user104658]

Originally Posted by parmnion

Nope..not one..my mum and all her friends are constantly on the golf course or socialising if they ain't looking after the grand kids or picking up the pissed grand daughter from the pub..



My dad's mates are the same..he's gone now but was working away on his bike until a few months before he died..my uncle died a few.months ago..the doctors had to drag him of his push bike and he was 82..





So no I don't know any that are lazy, so to say that old people are is ridiculous.



Im sure there are though , like the ones that prop up the bar along side the coke snorting, pool playing scruffy youths on a Tuesday afternoon though..

Running in different circles than me then Parm because in my old job I knew multiple blokes in their 60s and 70s who hadn't worked a full day in their entire life.

Im not saying all, or even many, old people are lazy buggers... I'm just saying that it's ridiculous to claim that there are "none".