[arista]

[Police are investigating claims Jewish children have
been prevented from getting on buses in London.]

Yes Cherie
this should be on the main news

It is real bad news.

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by arista

[Police are investigating claims Jewish children have
been prevented from getting on buses in London.]

Yes Cherie
this should be on the main news

It is real bad news.

This won't make the news trust me

[arista]

Originally Posted by Cherie

This won't make the news trust me

Might do on tonight's
ITV1HD London News
and BBC1HD London News

[Ninastar]

You can see in his face that he’s traumatised. Haunting

[Liam-]

[arista]

Yes Liam,
that was Evil.

But Far Worse,
Evil Hamas Terrorists on Oct the 7th
raped young women
then murdered them


I do not understand Liam
he only posts endless tweets
against Israel.
All the time,
He Ignores Hamas?

[user104658]

Originally Posted by arista

Yes Liam,
that was Evil.

But Far Worse,
Evil Hamas Terrorists on Oct the 7th
raped young women
then murdered them


I do not understand Liam
he only posts endless tweets
against Israel.
All the time,
He Ignores Hamas?

Its called providing a counter-narrative - why do you "not understand" when Liam only posts negative articles about Israel but you've had no such "lack of understanding" about the multiple members who only post anti-Palestine articles and SoMed and who seem to completely ignore any that are critical of Israel?

[arista]

Originally Posted by Soldier Boy

Its called providing a counter-narrative - why do you "not understand" when Liam only posts negative articles about Israel but you've had no such "lack of understanding" about the multiple members who only post anti-Palestine articles and SoMed and who seem to completely ignore any that are critical of Israel?

Nothing wrong
with showing the wrongs of Israel.


But Hamas
Escape Liam's mind.

[Oliver_W]

Originally Posted by arista

Nothing wrong
with showing the wrongs of Israel.


But Hamas
Escape Liam's mind.

Why is only showing "one side" a problem all of a sudden?

[arista]

Originally Posted by Oliver_W

Why is only showing "one side" a problem all of a sudden?

He just posts Tweets.
thats like LT


Admin asked LT to do
more on that

[Liam-]

There’s a certain word for this.. but I can’t quite remember what they told us this entire thing wasn’t about

[Oliver_W]

Originally Posted by Liam-

There’s a certain word for this.. but I can’t quite remember what they told us this entire thing wasn’t about

The word is Annexation. Which no-one would reasonably deny is what Israel wants to do with the Gaza Strip.

Were you thinking of another word?

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Oliver_W

The word is Annexation. Which no-one would reasonably deny is what Israel wants to do with the Gaza Strip.

Were you thinking of another word?

Annexation does not involve the removal of the current civilian population.

[Nicky91]

Originally Posted by Soldier Boy

Annexation does not involve the removal of the current civilian population.

palestine isn't a country so they do not have own rights of that territory





that territory is rightfully israeli ground, but yeah first all palestinians have to go

[Nicky91]

Hamas are evil


no one says otherwise though


defending palestinians isn't defending hamas



Hamas needs to be wiped out, but more like the correct way, the cleanest way without too much loss of innocent life


i can fully understand the criticism around Benjamin Netanyahu from the israeli people (but thankfully he'll only remain in power until Hamas are gone) maybe under a new government, things could change for the good in terms of israeli-palestinian relations

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Nicky91

Hamas are evil


no one says otherwise though


defending palestinians isn't defending hamas



Hamas needs to be wiped out, but more like the correct way, the cleanest way without too much loss of innocent life


i can fully understand the criticism around Benjamin Netanyahu from the israeli people (but thankfully he'll only remain in power until Hamas are gone) maybe under a new government, things could change for the good in terms of israeli-palestinian relations

That's the real crux of the issue. Putting aside the various reasons that terrorist organisations form and exist... it's hard to define Hamas as anything but a terrorist organisation. However, then remembering those reasons that terrorist organisations exist, it becomes ludicrous to accept that Israel's bombing campaign is an attempt to eradicate or even reduce terrorism: this sort of military action bolsters terrorist recruitment and increases the threat of terrorism. That is a simple fact.

Thus you immediately have to look for the simplest explanation: that they're using a "war on terror" to further other goals. In this case, the clear intent is to depopulate Gaza entirely. As I've said before, I dont think it's as "simple" as a religious genocide, it's not that they want to kill Muslims, they just want that land emptied. They do not care if the people there die, or simply leave, they just want them gone.

That sort of action - killing or displacing millions of civilians - is hard to justify, and thus there's been an absolutely massive propaganda campaign to create justification. It is ABUNDANTLY clear to anyone with any vague interest or knowledge of global politics or history, that the Israeli response to 7th Oct is at this point massively disproportionate. I find it odd that more people aren't asking themselves why.

[bots]

Originally Posted by Soldier Boy

That's the real crux of the issue. Putting aside the various reasons that terrorist organisations form and exist... it's hard to define Hamas as anything but a terrorist organisation. However, then remembering those reasons that terrorist organisations exist, it becomes ludicrous to accept that Israel's bombing campaign is an attempt to eradicate or even reduce terrorism: this sort of military action bolsters terrorist recruitment and increases the threat of terrorism. That is a simple fact.

Thus you immediately have to look for the simplest explanation: that they're using a "war on terror" to further other goals. In this case, the clear intent is to depopulate Gaza entirely. As I've said before, I dont think it's as "simple" as a religious genocide, it's not that they want to kill Muslims, they just want that land emptied. They do not care if the people there die, or simply leave, they just want them gone.

That sort of action - killing or displacing millions of civilians - is hard to justify, and thus there's been an absolutely massive propaganda campaign to create justification. It is ABUNDANTLY clear to anyone with any vague interest or knowledge of global politics or history, that the Israeli response to 7th Oct is at this point massively disproportionate. I find it odd that more people aren't asking themselves why.

It reduces the direct threat to Israel from Hamas, which is here and now. So, obviously its different to what may happen in the future. Now, as we speak, the terrorist organisation want to wipe out Israel. Any action taken against them by Israel will reduce the threat

[user104658]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

It reduces the direct threat to Israel from Hamas, which is here and now. So, obviously its different to what may happen in the future. Now, as we speak, the terrorist organisation want to wipe out Israel. Any action taken against them by Israel will reduce the threat

I disagree and the entire history of the effect of taking disproportionate conventional military action in response to terror attacks suggests otherwise as well. Did the US' "shock and awe" campaign reduce terrorism?

[bots]

Originally Posted by Soldier Boy

I disagree and the entire history of the effect of taking disproportionate conventional military action in response to terror attacks suggests otherwise as well. Did the US' "shock and awe" campaign reduce terrorism?

Your not listening to me. I am not talking about terrorism in 1, 5 or 10 years. I'm talking about now. Destroying hamas and its infrastructure removes the threat Hamas poses to Israel now. That is simply fact

[arista]

Israel IDF
are going to Flood the Tunnels
killing all the Hamas in them.

[arista]

[arista]

"hold legitimate elections"

Yes only if Hamas has gone from Gaza.

But many are saying that could take years?

[Oliver_W]

Originally Posted by arista

"hold legitimate elections"

Yes only if Hamas has gone from Gaza.

But many are saying that could take years?

And who's to say whatever took their place wouldn't be as bad? Getting rid of Hamas wouldn't de-programme their people.

But they should have the choice.

[arista]

Originally Posted by Oliver_W

And who's to say whatever took their place wouldn't be as bad? Getting rid of Hamas wouldn't de-programme their people.

But they should have the choice.

Yes
that goes back to 9/11
When that Evil Terrorist group
beat America.

The Weapon of a Plane full of fuels

2 Rich Arabs took Flying lesson in Florida
all they leant was how to fly steady
not take off or land.

They paid, in full, so all was in order.
A report went to someone
in the FBI, who never followed it up.

[arista]

IDF getting the Water Pumped into the Hamas tunnels





https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...umps-Gaza.html