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Crimson Dynamo · 15-01-2010, 12:02 PM

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/ukne...an-values.html

All new immigrants should accept Britain’s traditional Christian values and be willing to adapt to them, according to a prominent clergyman.

He also called for an end to the segregation of Muslims in British cities, which he warned provides a breeding ground for extremists.

This links in with that BNP video of the ghettos in London that many on here pretended to think was good in an attempt at being all 2010.

views?

NettoSuperstar! · 15-01-2010, 12:19 PM

1. most people in Britain dont have any religious views

2. We have a right to choose what religion if any we want to follow as we are a democratic country

3. All religions pretty much have the same sort of values

4. you dont need to be a Christian or religious to have values and morals

5. He shows very little insight into extremism and seems a little extreme himself

So he should **** and **** if he doesnt like it

Crimson Dynamo · 15-01-2010, 12:25 PM

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Originally Posted by NettoSuperstar!

1. most people in Britain dont have any religious views

2. We have a right to choose what religion if any we want to follow as we are a democratic country

So he should **** and **** if he doesnt like it

says the Liberal

nice

NettoSuperstar! · 15-01-2010, 12:28 PM

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Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

says the Liberal

nice

heheh...tongue in cheek at the end there

Wildcat! · 15-01-2010, 12:33 PM

Is this a wind up or something?

Wildcat! · 15-01-2010, 12:34 PM

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Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/ukne...an-values.html

All new immigrants should accept Britain’s traditional Christian values and be willing to adapt to them, according to a prominent clergyman.

He also called for an end to the segregation of Muslims in British cities, which he warned provides a breeding ground for extremists.

This links in with that BNP video of the ghettos in London that many on here pretended to think was good in an attempt at being all 2010.

views?

Yua ask for views! I dont agree of course.

BTW, what are your views on that? Do yoU AGREE?

Crimson Dynamo · 15-01-2010, 12:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Wildcat!

Yua ask for views! I dont agree of course.

BTW, what are your views on that? Do yoU AGREE?

he makes good points that I hope the next Government listen to.

Wildcat! · 15-01-2010, 12:42 PM

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Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

he makes good points that I hope the next Government listen to.

Errrrm, do you agree with him or not?

Dont bait people trying to get them to lean into some fascist opinions, just by putting it out there.
Why dont you just tell us how you feel, and if you agree, that any immigrant who gest accepted in this country should become christian?
Its a simple question. DO you agree or not? I dont of course, and I know its never gonna happen in a country like the UK, but I would love to know wweather you agree or not. Its a simple yes, or no! You posted the thread.

Crimson Dynamo · 15-01-2010, 12:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Wildcat!

Errrrm, do you agree with him or not?

Dont bait people trying to get them to lean into some fascist opinions, just by putting it out there.
Why dont you just tell us how you feel, and if you agree, that any immigrant who gest accepted in this country should become christian?
Its a simple question. DO you agree or not? I dont of course, and I know its never gonna happen in a country like the UK, but I would love to know wweather you agree or not. Its a simple yes, or no! You posted the thread.

No one is baiting anyone. The views expressed in the article are not fascist, they are views that I would imagine are broadly sympathetic with those held in the UK.

Nothing is as simple as yes and no.

Wildcat! · 15-01-2010, 12:56 PM

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Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

No one is baiting anyone. The views expressed in the article are not fascist, they are views that I would imagine are broadly sympathetic with those held in the UK.

Nothing is as simple as yes and no.

Thats what I thought! Coward!!!
Dont have the guts, to stand up, and show yourself for who you really are. Instead, you just do some suggestions, to test and find people who might share your embarrassing stance, that you cant own up to. Oh well!
Sorry, got no respect for you, if you dont even have an opinion.

NettoSuperstar! · 15-01-2010, 12:43 PM

Wind Up central Wildcat!

Wildcat! · 15-01-2010, 12:44 PM

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Originally Posted by NettoSuperstar!

Wind Up central Wildcat!

Cmon, seriously!!! Lets just be honest with our views. At least we know what you think.
Especially if you post the thread, about something so outrageous. I like honest people, even if i dont agree with their opinons.

Wildcat! · 15-01-2010, 12:50 PM

Cmon dude tell us? you know, its clever to go around telling people, "oh look, this person said this (insert ridiculous fascist view)! Interesting" Thats person said that (insert ridiculous xenephobic view), dont you think thats interesting?"

How about what you say, and whats your opinion of it?

Crimson Dynamo · 15-01-2010, 12:53 PM

and do not call me dude. this is not Starsky and Hutch circa 1978..

Wildcat! · 15-01-2010, 01:03 PM

I honestly thought, you actually had some cojones! I wouldve respected you then.

Now, I just find you sad. And I am sure everyone can see it.

Good luck with the baiting thread!

Crimson Dynamo · 15-01-2010, 01:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Wildcat!

I honestly thought, you actually had some cojones! I wouldve respected you then.

Now, I just find you sad. And I am sure everyone can see it.

Good luck with the baiting thread!

I doubt you thought anything like that. You are just angry because I do not share your views and you have resorted to abuse to make yourself feel better.

I would get a dog if I were you, one like Paris Hilton has maybe?

Wildcat! · 15-01-2010, 01:09 PM

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Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

I doubt you thought anything like that. You are just angry because I do not share your views and you have resorted to abuse to make yourself feel better.

I would get a dog if I were you, one like Paris Hilton has maybe?

ONce again, what are those views?
Do you agree that immigrants should automatically convert to christianity, in order to be accepted as immigrants? Yes, or no?
If you cant answer, dont bother replying, cause I dont want to hear your cowardly deflections.
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Crimson Dynamo · 15-01-2010, 01:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Wildcat!

ONce again, what are those views?
Do you agree that immigrants should automatically convert to christianity, in order to be accepted as immigrants? Yes, or no?
If you cant answer, dont bother replying, cause I dont want to hear your cowardly deflections.
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All new immigrants should accept Britain’s traditional Christian values and be willing to adapt to them.

Skeptic-i · 15-01-2010, 06:31 PM

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Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

All new immigrants should accept Britain’s traditional Christian values and be willing to adapt to them.

It really makes me laugh when today's Christians push this line. They seem to forget that Britain's traditional Christian values once denied women rights, denied non-believers the right to stand in Parliament, denied free speech and condemned non-believers and homosexuals to imprisonment and execution, etc.

Every right that both Christians and non-believers take for granted today, hasn't come about through conformity to traditional Christian values - they have come about through non-conformity(the heretics - including non-believers) who fearlessly fought for change.

Christians born today take on those new values that the heretics and non-believers bravely fought for - and assume those values are our countries 'traditional' Christian values; which, in all reality, are not.

Wildcat! · 15-01-2010, 01:22 PM

Alright! Thats an opinion. And I respect that.

and If so, I agree with you. But I find it strange, because, I have lived in Africa, the US, and The UK. And the last thing I would think about British vaules, would be christian values. I respect all the values in this country, but I dont know many people that have, such values.

But if he thinks thats what the UK is all about, good for him.