[charmingmissc]

he has said before that he has gay friends.

it's not being gay he objects to it is gay marriage.

[psychtracker]

Originally Posted by Claymores

Nope just another demonstration of his unsavoury game tactics, which was fairly reflected in the editing, and consequently most people were able to spot.

I think you'd have to talk to the guy himself to get the full story...but appears you have him "hung, drawn & quartered" already.

[WOMBAI]

Originally Posted by lime

No WOMBAI,it was in the bedroom and Josie said to him" I know you are a holy man but that's taken it a bit far."

She then said to JJ that she had just seen Dave's arse.So it was not only in front of guys.
There was nothing discreet about, it I mean it's not that we all coped a quick glance.It was on full display.

She was joking - that she had seen a 'minister's' arse!

Ok it was in the bedroom and women were present - but he in no way could be accused of attempting to flaunt himself or to excite the girls - totally different circumstances!

[stoney]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

He lives in a big house where he does his "preaching "(not a church in sight) ,and sends his children to private school ,all without a job ? theres money in being a charlatan isnt there ?

any chance of any link to any sort of proof about this

certain posters on here parrot the "fact" that dave sends his kids to private school but no-one seems to be able to point to any actual info on it

[Claymores]

Originally Posted by psychtracker

I think you'd have to talk to the guy himself to get the full story...but appears you have him "hung, drawn & quartered" already.

We are grown ups and can draw our own common-sense conclusions.

[WOMBAI]

Originally Posted by stoney

any chance of any link to any sort of proof about this

certain posters on here parrot the "fact" that dave sends his kids to private school but no-one seems to be able to point to any actual info on it

His kids don't go to private school - I think that has pretty much been established - just people exaggarating again for dramatic license!

[Claymores]

Originally Posted by WOMBAI

Ok it was in the bedroom and women were present - but he in no way could be accused of attempting to flaunt himself or to excite the girls - totally different circumstances!

And neither could Caoimhe - at worst it became a 'wardrobe malfunction' after Josie doused her with water. St Dave appeared to take the opportunity to sway the others it was something else........I strongly believe for the benefit of his own agenda of getting her nominated.

[psychtracker]

Originally Posted by Claymores

We are grown ups and can draw our own common-sense conclusions.

Very true, some are more judgmental that others as well.

I have a question :

Has Dave done anything in the house that has been positive? Yes or No.

[Claymores]

Originally Posted by psychtracker

Very true, some are more judgmental that others as well.

I have a question :

Has Dave done anything in the house that has been positive? Yes or No.

It is a ridiculous question unworthy of an answer. They have all done positive things.

[-Sue-]

Originally Posted by Claymores

It is a ridiculous question unworthy of an answer. They have all done positive things.

.. I wouldnt bother Clay.. you will go round and round in circles in this thread.. like I did when I replied yesterday OP only wants answers that agree with his opinion & thoughts ...

[lime]

Originally Posted by WOMBAI

She was joking - that she had seen a 'minister's' arse!

Ok it was in the bedroom and women were present - but he in no way could be accused of attempting to flaunt himself or to excite the girls - totally different circumstances!

No I agree Josie was laughing about it,I don't think he was in anyway flaunting his arse.I just think his reaction off being really upset over catching a glimpse of Caoimhes breasts as fake now.
I mean he is always mentioning about his kids watching....I am sure they would me more upset about having to listen to other kids take the mickey about him having a 19 spray him with fake tan whilst his boxers are around his knees(doesn't matter that no females were present in that case as it was seen on national tv).

The other thing is we all know Corin wants to go topless in the garden but wont because she wants someone else to do it with her.Sunshine refused when asked..If one the new HM wants to go topless in the garden with Corin I really don't see Dave as getting upset over that.He's hardly likely to be bitching in the bathroom about them or asking BB to go home as he a married man

[WOMBAI]

Originally Posted by lime

No I agree Josie was laughing about it,I don't think he was in anyway flaunting his arse.I just think his reaction off being really upset over catching a glimpse of Caoimhes breasts as fake now.
I mean he is always mentioning about his kids watching....I am sure they would me more upset about having to listen to other kids take the mickey about him having a 19 spray him with fake tan whilst his boxers are around his knees(doesn't matter that no females were present in that case as it was seen on national tv).

The other thing is we all know Corin wants to go topless in the garden but wont because she wants someone else to do it with her.Sunshine refused when asked..If one the new HM wants to go topless in the garden with Corin I really don't see Dave as getting upset over that.He's hardly likely to be bitching in the bathroom about them or asking BB to go home as he a married man

tbh - I don't know or particularly care what Keeva's motivations were when she was 'exposing' herself - although I do think it also raises questions about Josie's motivations when she threw water over her - maybe her intention was to either ridicule Keeva or provoke accusations of salacious exposure! Josie is no fool!

Don't know what Dave' s motivations for passing the comments that he did about Keeva's 'exposure' were either - maybe he genuinely believed she was attempting to gain attention and/or maybe he did exaggerate the situation to turn others against her, don't know or again, really care! None of them are perfect - they all misread or exaggerate things for personal gain - but, no doubt, some are far worse than others - and Dave is definitely not one of the worst offenders!

[MrBlack]

Originally Posted by psychtracker

I've been watching the BB streams for the last couple of weeks, and Dave is the life and soul of that place...Then when they assemble the HL shows they're desperately attempting to paint him in a bad light at any given scenario..

If Dave is the life and soul of BB..then it just proves why BB is in its final year.

[Ryan57]

I've also noticed this. I'm loving Dave. I think he is brilliant. Loved on the live feed in the early hours of the other day, he starts talking about how Rachel is awful at making things for him. He mentioned he had a cup of tea with, in his words, 'grit and baccy' in it.

[Peter Plunker]

Originally Posted by stoney

any chance of any link to any sort of proof about this

certain posters on here parrot the "fact" that dave sends his kids to private school but no-one seems to be able to point to any actual info on it

They don't go to privates schools, it's a fact.

[Eye_Spy]

Originally Posted by psychtracker

I've been watching the BB streams for the last couple of weeks, and Dave is the life and soul of that place. He's a genuinely warm and good-hearted guy, having lots of harmless fun...keeping everyone entertained. Then when they assemble the HL shows they're desperately attempting to paint him in a bad light at any given scenario!

C'mon BB Producers, you're a fcking DISGRACE you should be ashamed of yourselves!!!

As Davina let slip a few years ago during an eviction when someone was really booed, she 'whispered' loudly dont worry, this is all a pantomime.

wake up smell the coffee.

[stoney]

Originally Posted by fruit_cake

er.. haven't u been watching the show??? he slimed his way out of answer josies questions about gay marriage he thinks they are beneath him and its not acceptable

so one comment about his personal interpretation of the bible, that is shared by quite a few people but that really is an argument for another place rather than to be USED to score points against him, is enough to make him a homophobe and hating homosexuals rather than the lots of fun and interaction he actually has with the gay members in the house

when did he say that homosexuals were BENEATH him or is this another made up "fact" about dave too like the sending his kids to private school lie that keeps getting repeated

[Claymores]

Originally Posted by Eye_Spy

As Davina let slip a few years ago during an eviction when someone was really booed, she 'whispered' loudly dont worry, this is all a pantomime.

wake up smell the coffee.

She said that in reference solely to the vociferous crowd booing. Not an apt reference in the context of OPs crusade.

[stoney]

Originally Posted by Claymores

And neither could Caoimhe - at worst it became a 'wardrobe malfunction' after Josie doused her with water. St Dave appeared to take the opportunity to sway the others it was something else........I strongly believe for the benefit of his own agenda of getting her nominated.

Caoimhe was drunk, or at least acting so , and was fooling around with her shirt wet and see thru and getting up close and personal with them in the bath tub. It was one of the times that Josie didnt like her behaviour and flirtations too as well as a good few other inmates who thought it inappropriate. Not just dave
.
the one in the loo with Andrew was a fecking disgrace that the editors showed it to try to give haters a "hypocritical", in their opinion, dave moment and was carefully editted into the HL at the correct time soon after dave's convo with a few when Caoimhe was running around drunk exhibiting herself in their( plural) opinion.
In the bedroom did you find it in any way sexual when dave showed his tan Do you honestly believe it had any sexual undertones Did any of the other inmates have any problem in any way about it
There are probably lots of times they could show us inmates in the toilet "exposing" their bits if they wanted to. Just like there are many times they could highlight seeing someone's bum when getting dressed but for some reason they only show dave's 2 times

[WOMBAI]

Originally Posted by fruit_cake

er.. haven't u been watching the show??? he slimed his way out of answer josies questions about gay marriage he thinks they are beneath him and its not acceptable

He didn't want to talk about it again because he knew some were just looking for an argument and trying to put words in his mouth! Perfectly understandable!

[stoney]

Originally Posted by lime

No I agree Josie was laughing about it,I don't think he was in anyway flaunting his arse.I just think his reaction off being really upset over catching a glimpse of Caoimhes breasts as fake now.
I mean he is always mentioning about his kids watching....I am sure they would me more upset about having to listen to other kids take the mickey about him having a 19 spray him with fake tan whilst his boxers are around his knees(doesn't matter that no females were present in that case as it was seen on national tv).

The other thing is we all know Corin wants to go topless in the garden but wont because she wants someone else to do it with her.Sunshine refused when asked..If one the new HM wants to go topless in the garden with Corin I really don't see Dave as getting upset over that.He's hardly likely to be bitching in the bathroom about them or asking BB to go home as he a married man

Dave would not have expected the andrew moment when they were puting the fake tan on to be shown. they were in the loo to get away from the women and they had been told that they would not show that type of shot from the loo.
I dont get your topless bitty tho Dave is now at fault for something that has not happenned and that probably wont unless they put keeley or a replacement in now

[lime]

Originally Posted by stoney

Dave would not have expected the andrew moment when they were puting the fake tan on to be shown. they were in the loo to get away from the women and they had been told that they would not show that type of shot from the loo.
I dont get your topless bitty tho Dave is now at fault for something that has not happenned and that probably wont unless they put keeley or a replacement in now

Come on now.
Dave after complaining about Caoimhe ,in fact actually acting upset over been able to see Caoimhe's breasts would not expect his own nudity to be shown.

They went into the loo to get away from the women????then why didn't he do the same the other evening when he was naked in front of women in the bedroom.And you know this for a fact do you..that they were told that BB would not show that type of shot from the loo.

It's BB ,of course he knows nudity will be shown LoL.

I never said Dave was at fault for anyone who goes topless.Please try to read post's before commenting.

I said I doubted Dave would have the same reaction towards Corin or any other HM who may go topless.In other word's I think he is a hypocrite.

Hope that eases all the confusion you seem to have.

[Claymores]

Originally Posted by stoney

Just like there are many times they could highlight seeing someone's bum when getting dressed but for some reason they only show dave's 2 times

Utter tosh - Dave already had his pants on that he was going to wear for the day - he chose deliberately to drop in in the presence of at least Josie (and I don't know who else). I can't even be bothered repeating my thoughts on his hipocrisy regarding public indecency issues which I outlined above.

[WOMBAI]

Come on now ...

Dave is not a youngster in his 20s - and knows that his bod is not as good as it probably was then - although clearly not ashamed of his body (he has no reason to be) he is unlikely to be deluded enough to want to salaciously show it off on public tv! It just doesn't ring true! Intent is the key!

[psychtracker]

Originally Posted by FireTwilight

.. I wouldnt bother Clay.. you will go round and round in circles in this thread.. like I did when I replied yesterday OP only wants answers that agree with his opinion & thoughts ...

Cmon...fair's fair, you (and "fingers") hijacked this thread yesterday with an agenda to spread a Dave "hate campaign" and NOT to actually discuss the original topic which was related to Dave's edit on the HL show. I REPEAT - YOU WHERE NOT INTERESTED IN A RATIONAL DISCUSSION. I asked you on numerous occasions whether you felt he had received a good or bad edit and you failed to answer. End of story.