[sampvt]

To give Scott and Ash a formal warning for mentioning her culture that suggests they eat with their fingers as being a bad stereo type is just rediculous.

I lived and worked in Dubai for 3 years and it is 80% Asian. When we went out at night to go for an indian to the real downtown Asian quarter, my wife took her own fork, why BECAUSE THEY DIDNT GIVE YOU ONE WITH YOUR MEAL. Their culture is like that and they try to uphold it and are proud of it as well. An asian friend of mine said they only use one hand because its one to eat and one to wipe with.

These idiots in the office are letting this series get away from them and actually are embarrassingly handing Deana this series on a plate by allowing her to be percieved as the victim, it isnt Deana thats doing it anymore, its them. Dozy tw.ts.

[Nedusa]

I agree with Sampvt ,talk about double standards it's OK to mimic people's accents as long as they're the right sort of accents, wouldn't want to stray down the path of political incorrectness. OMG I think it's time to hit the OFF switch, BB is making it up as they go along. They're probably so paranoid about upsetting the wrong demographic groups, the PC groups , the Sponsors, the Advertisers, the rules have become totally dependent on the prevailing mood of the day. They need to allow the housemates room to breathe, be expressive, get angry , be funny whatever..... But the second it's interpreted as potentially offensive then their pulled up for it. Fine ! But how about a bit of consistency , let everyone know where the lines are and keep them there. Not change the rules on an almost daily basis.... Don't know how much more of this current series I can take...!!!!!!!!!

[jet]

Originally Posted by Nedusa

I agree with Sampvt ,talk about double standards it's OK to mimic people's accents as long as they're the right sort of accents, wouldn't want to stray down the path of political incorrectness. OMG I think it's time to hit the OFF switch, BB is making it up as they go along. They're probably so paranoid about upsetting the wrong demographic groups, the PC groups , the Sponsors, the Advertisers, the rules have become totally dependent on the prevailing mood of the day. They need to allow the housemates room to breathe, be expressive, get angry , be funny whatever..... But the second it's interpreted as potentially offensive then their pulled up for it. Fine ! But how about a bit of consistency , let everyone know where the lines are and keep them there. Not change the rules on an almost daily basis.... Don't know how much more of this current series I can take...!!!!!!!!!

GREAT POST! It's the lack of consistency that bothers me. Conor got away VERY lightly with something he should have been kicked out for at the time. Caroline got away with her snide and bullying behaviour for WEEKS while Becky is as bad in her own way and has NEVER been reprimanded.
Now Scott (who as a rule doesn't bitch about HM's) has been given an official warning for making a fairly innocuous remark, and Ashleigh has been warned for 'excluding people, humiliating them and using sarcasm'!!!
OMG.
Meanwhile, BB humiliates Luke S, sets Adam up to be excluded by showing him giving opinions when he doesn't know the other HM's are watching etc etc....and BOTS gives a voice to people who frequently make fun of and ridicule the HM's every night non stop.
Make up your mind BB Channel 5.
I am personally dead against racism and bullying. But where BB is concerned this series they are all over the place and it's just a total mess. There seem to be no clear rules - it's a case of one HM can get away with murder but another can't.
What a ridiculous farce it is turning out to be.

[the truth]

Originally Posted by jet

GREAT POST! It's the lack of consistency that bothers me. Conor got away VERY lightly with something he should have been kicked out for at the time. Caroline got away with her snide and bullying behaviour for WEEKS while Becky is as bad in her own way and has NEVER been reprimanded.
Now Scott (who as a rule doesn't bitch about HM's) has been given an official warning for making a fairly innocuous remark, and Ashleigh has been warned for 'excluding people, humiliating them and using sarcasm'!!!
OMG.
Meanwhile, BB humiliates Luke S, sets Adam up to be excluded by showing him giving opinions when he doesn't know the other HM's are watching etc etc....and BOTS gives a voice to people who frequently make fun of and ridicule the HM's every night non stop.
Make up your mind BB Channel 5.
I am personally dead against racism and bullying. But where BB is concerned this series they are all over the place and it's just a total mess. There seem to be no clear rules - it's a case of one HM can get away with murder but another can't.
What a ridiculous farce it is turning out to be.

it didnt seem that nasty by scott , his dad did actually own a restaurant it was an anecdote of sorts. if he had stopped short saying she eats with her hands it may be ok, but to generalize about all doing it is wrong, although when deana said that about men, no one said a thing, I was very offended by that

[jet]

Originally Posted by the truth

it didnt seem that nasty by scott , his dad did actually own a restaurant it was an anecdote of sorts. if he had stopped short saying she eats with her hands it may be ok, but to generalize about all doing it is wrong, although when deana said that about men, no one said a thing, I was very offended by that

Yes, I think Scott was making an observation that he believed to be factual. I have Indian friends who eat with their hands all the time. Fact. I don't know if ALL Indians do this, but the ones I know do in my experience. I wouldn't take kindly to be branded as racist for saying so. If I was told not all Indians do this, then I would adjust my thinking. It's no big deal for God's sake.
I wonder if someone told Conor he must like potatoes because he's Irish would they be called racist.
And I happen to agree with you about what Deana said about men...but that's okay...being PC doesn't extent to men apparently.

[smeagol]

they edited that clip they used accents as well

[aman201]

Originally Posted by smeagol

they edited that clip they used accents as well

is there a video of this?

[Jords]

It was stereotyping, they just got a slap wrist.

[Beverley]

Jords, they got a formal warning, not just a wrist slap hun!

[Jords]

Originally Posted by Beverley

Jords, they got a formal warning, not just a wrist slap hun!

I meant compared to the extent of Caroline's

[Beverley]

Originally Posted by Jords

I meant compared to the extent of Caroline's

Ah I'm with ya

[sampvt]

I didnt see the edit in full so I can only comment on what I saw. The Chinese dont use metal impliments as it distains the taste of their food they use bone or wooden cutlery to eat with, We use metal because its supposed to be clean and healthy, Asians prefer to use their fingers when possible, are you to say that we are not allowed to say that the Chinese are wrong.

The inferance by another poster on another thread that rascism seems to be influenced by age issues is just plain daft. The youth of today are without doubt more inclined to be a little more over the top about certain things but thats life. Old people have views based on experiences gained in life and the youngsters of today are brought up with different tollerance levels in mind but I agree any rascism is bad but what is rascism and what isnt.

Some on here say that infering that eating with ther hands is in someway rascist is wrong, it is strange if you dont know it but defo not rascism. In my eyes it is one more exampe of PC gone mad.

[Beverley]

Originally Posted by sampvt

I didnt see the edit in full so I can only comment on what I saw. The Chinese dont use metal impliments as it distains the taste of their food they use bone or wooden cutlery to eat with, We use metal because its supposed to be clean and healthy, Asians prefer to use their fingers when possible, are you to say that we are not allowed to say that the Chinese are wrong.

The inferance by another poster on another thread that rascism seems to be influenced by age issues is just plain daft. The youth of today are without doubt more inclined to be a little more over the top about certain things but thats life. Old people have views based on experiences gained in life and the youngsters of today are brought up with different tollerance levels in mind but I agree any rascism is bad but what is rascism and what isnt.

Some on here say that infering that eating with ther hands is in someway rascist is wrong, it is strange if you dont know it but defo not rascism. In my eyes it is one more exampe of PC gone mad.

We still eat with our fingers, think bbq ribs, chicken wings etc. But I do agree with what you are saying. BB has had so much flack over the years from the PC Brigade they darn't not let anything go.

[smeagol]

Originally Posted by sampvt

I didnt see the edit in full so I can only comment on what I saw. The Chinese dont use metal impliments as it distains the taste of their food they use bone or wooden cutlery to eat with, We use metal because its supposed to be clean and healthy, Asians prefer to use their fingers when possible, are you to say that we are not allowed to say that the Chinese are wrong.

The inferance by another poster on another thread that rascism seems to be influenced by age issues is just plain daft. The youth of today are without doubt more inclined to be a little more over the top about certain things but thats life. Old people have views based on experiences gained in life and the youngsters of today are brought up with different tollerance levels in mind but I agree any rascism is bad but what is rascism and what isnt.

Some on here say that infering that eating with ther hands is in someway rascist is wrong, it is strange if you dont know it but defo not rascism. In my eyes it is one more exampe of PC gone mad.

hmm well thats odd cause my ex is chinese and she always uses the same as us and so do all the chinese friends i have lol wow

[sampvt]

Originally Posted by smeagol

hmm well thats odd cause my ex is chinese and she always uses the same as us and so do all the chinese friends i have lol wow

Smeagol mate, shame about the x thing, give me a nod after the series and i will give you a few tips on how to keep a woman, Ive had mine for 40 yrs. By the way you must give me the name of the chop stick manufacturer that uses metal on their product or the soup bowls made of metal or the big table tennis bats they use as spoons or even the bamboo they clean their woks with. Obviously I dont get out now I am using the incontinent pants and the Zimmer frame, but I didnt realise times had change so badly.

The discussion was about culture on the whole not your young student mates of ethnic origins whooping it up in the present. Ask them what their mum makes them use at home. going off topic didnt help us there mate.

[smeagol]

Originally Posted by sampvt

Smeagol mate, shame about the x thing, give me a nod after the series and i will give you a few tips on how to keep a woman, Ive had mine for 40 yrs. By the way you must give me the name of the chop stick manufacturer that uses metal on their product or the soup bowls made of metal or the big table tennis bats they use as spoons or even the bamboo they clean their woks with. Obviously I dont get out now I am using the incontinent pants and the Zimmer frame, but I didnt realise times had change so badly.

The discussion was about culture on the whole not your young student mates of ethnic origins whooping it up in the present. Ask them what their mum makes them use at home. going off topic didnt help us there mate.

your sterotyping again on a masisve scale just to let you know dude its 2012 its a modern age come into the real world your be suprised

[Raph]

Originally Posted by sampvt

Asians prefer to use their fingers when possible, are you to say that we are not allowed to say that the Chinese are wrong.

Obviously that statement is stereotyping in itself. Japanese people, for example, would never eat with their hands. I think it's too general to say 'asians' when you're talking primarily about south-eastern asians, notably, Indians.

[JTM45]

Originally Posted by sampvt

The Chinese dont use metal impliments as it distains the taste of their food they use bone or wooden cutlery to eat with, We use metal because its supposed to be clean and healthy, Asians prefer to use their fingers when possible, are you to say that we are not allowed to say that the Chinese are wrong.

Where the hell do you think China is ?
The very fact that you refer to 'Asians' and 'Chinese' as two different races comes across as very ignorant to me!

[Raph]

Originally Posted by JTM45

Where the hell do you think China is ?
The very fact that you refer to 'Asians' and 'Chinese' as two different races comes across as very ignorant to me!

This helps accentuate what I posted above. And ooh hello fellow South Walian!

[sampvt]

Originally Posted by JTM45

Where the hell do you think China is ?
The very fact that you refer to 'Asians' and 'Chinese' as two different races comes across as very ignorant to me!

I think it is really sad that you dont understand what I mean. In future I will consult my world Atlas and all manner of books, PC correct anuals and I will phone a friend before posting. That way you wont need to cherry pick my futile little posts so you can poke fun at them.

A man with a white stick and a big fluffy dog could understand that post. Oh bloody hell shes going to call in the royal soc for the blind now. When will I learn.

[Me. I Am Salman]

Originally Posted by sampvt

I think it is really sad that you dont understand what I mean. In future I will consult my world Atlas and all manner of books, PC correct anuals and I will phone a friend before posting. That way you wont need to cherry pick my futile little posts so you can poke fun at them.

A man with a white stick and a big fluffy dog could understand that post. Oh bloody hell shes going to call in the royal soc for the blind now. When will I learn.

Stop trying to act all highly and mighty
Because you're not

[sampvt]

Originally Posted by Salman!

Stop trying to act all highly and mighty
Because you're not

Ill make a deal with you, Ill stop acting like a dick if you do the same. Deal.

[rayheartbliss]

Originally Posted by Salman!

Stop trying to act all highly and mighty
Because you're not

This.

[the truth]

Originally Posted by JTM45

Where the hell do you think China is ?
The very fact that you refer to 'Asians' and 'Chinese' as two different races comes across as very ignorant to me!

he didnt say they were different races? youre pretending to be offended imho, cheap shot

[JTM45]

Originally Posted by the truth

he didnt say they were different races? youre pretending to be offended imho, cheap shot

When did i say i was offended ?
I was just amazed that he was trying to prove the point that something wasn't offensive and/or racially stereotypical while bringing up a different racial stereotype himself.
He was clearly calling one race of people 'Asians' (which i'm assuming were actually Indians in this case) and another group as 'Chinese' when infact both races he was talking about were Asians.

It does really offend me though when people try to defend the unacceptably offensive/racially stereotypical behaviour of people like Ashleigh and Scott though!
If people didn't find that offensive or don't think what Ashleigh and Scott said was wrong then they clearly either didn't understand what they said or they must share their ignorant and racially stereotypical opinions.

I just added this bit as i noticed El Proximo's post just before mine.
He's made the very point i was referring to and he probably made it with greater clarity than i did. Nice work El Proximo!
I'm from the UK by the way and never refer to people as 'Asians' in this derogatory fashion so please don't think we're all that ignorant (a LOT are, but not all by any means).