[lostalex]

he's got bail... are we gonna see white flight? perhaps the ecuadorian embassy can offer him asylum.

[arista]

Originally Posted by lostalex

he's got bail... are we gonna see white flight? perhaps the ecuadorian embassy can offer him asylum.

He needs someone to drive him to another nation
hidden.

Then he can Fly


If he goes
then we know the truth.

[Omah]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-21554329

Andrew Harding
Africa correspondent

It's probably fair to assume that the prosecution team never expected to win the argument against bail. Instead their strategy was to force Oscar Pistorius to show his hand, giving a full account of his version of events in order to counter the premeditated murder charge raised at the bail hearing.

Now the prosecution, with a brand new high-profile detective leading the investigation, has the luxury of months to pick apart the athlete's sworn statement and measure it against the forensic evidence that will soon appear.

Interestingly, the prosecutor and magistrate today both raised, in abstract terms, the possibility of the charges against Oscar Pistorius being reduced from murder to culpable homicide - something which could mean a fine or suspended sentence rather than a long jail term.

I hope not .....

[Nedusa]

Originally Posted by Omah

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-21554329

Andrew Harding
Africa correspondent



I hope not .....

I hope not too, but as I see it both legal teams have a few months to try and make their version of events seem plausible, if the prosecution believe OP story is possible and the forensics do not show evidence to the contrary then they will probably reduce the charge or go for a plea bargain.

However if the state shows using forensic evidence that the defence story is impossible then I'm afraid Mr Pistorious is gonna have to get used to the inside of a Prison Cell for a very long time ...!!!!

[Omah]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-21558901

South African athlete Oscar Pistorius "will have to live with his conscience" over the killing of his girlfriend Reeva Steenkamp, her father has said.

Barry Steenkamp was speaking a day after the Paralympic champion was freed on bail pending his trial.

Mr Pistorius, 26, admits shooting Ms Steenkamp, 29, but denies murder, saying he mistook her for an intruder.

"If it didn't happen the way he says it did he must suffer and he will suffer," her father told Beeld newspaper.

"It does not matter how much money he has and how good his legal team is, he will have to live with his conscience," Mr Steenkamp said.

Yeah, some consolation for the Steenkamps ..... but they'd rather have Reeva .....

[Omah]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Claudine_Longet

Claudine Longet (born 29 January 1942) is a French singer and recording artist who was popular during the 1960s and 1970s. She was found guilty of misdemeanor criminal negligence in the 1976 death of her live-in boyfriend, professional skier Spider Sabich.

Born in Paris, France, Longet was married to pop singer Andy Williams from 1961 until 1975. She was arrested and charged with fatally shooting her boyfriend, Olympic skier Vladimir "Spider" Sabich, at his Aspen, Colorado, home on 21 March 1976. At her trial Longet said the gun discharged accidentally as Sabich was showing her how it worked. Williams publicly supported Longet throughout the trial, even escorting her to and from the courthouse.

The Aspen police made two procedural errors that aided Longet's defense: without warrants, they took a blood sample from her; and they confiscated her diary. According to prosecutors, the sample showed the presence of cocaine in her blood, and her diary reportedly contradicted her claim that her relationship with Sabich had not soured. In addition, the gun was mishandled by non-weapons experts. As they were unable to cite any of the disallowed material, prosecutors used the autopsy report to suggest that when Sabich was shot he was bent over, facing away, and at least 1.80 m (6 ft) from Longet, which would be inconsistent with the position and relative distance of someone demonstrating the operation of a firearm.

The jury convicted her of a lesser charge "misdemeanor criminal negligence" and sentenced her to pay a small fine and spend 30 days in jail. The judge allowed Longet to choose the days to be served, believing that this arrangement would allow her to spend the most time with her children. She chose to serve most of her sentence on weekends. (Critical reaction to the verdict and sentencing was exacerbated when she subsequently vacationed with her defense attorney, Ron Austin, who was married at the time; Longet and Austin later married and still live in Aspen.) After the criminal trial, the Sabich family initiated civil proceedings to sue Longet. The case was eventually resolved out of court, with the provision that Longet never tell or write about her story.

In 1980, Mick Jagger wrote a song about Spider Sabich's death that was intended to be on the Rolling Stones album Emotional Rescue. The song, titled "Claudine", carried lyrics that painted a graphic picture of some of the more salacious aspects of the affair and killing. However, it was deemed too controversial and was removed, although it was included on several bootleg Rolling Stones albums. In November 2011, the track "Claudine" was released on the Rolling Stones' deluxe reissue of their album Some Girls.

I have a copy of that track .....

[lostalex]

Omah is making the most sense in this thread. well done omah.

[Suze]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-21558901

South African athlete Oscar Pistorius "will have to live with his conscience" over the killing of his girlfriend Reeva Steenkamp, her father has said.

Barry Steenkamp was speaking a day after the Paralympic champion was freed on bail pending his trial.

Mr Pistorius, 26, admits shooting Ms Steenkamp, 29, but denies murder, saying he mistook her for an intruder.

"If it didn't happen the way he says it did he must suffer and he will suffer," her father told Beeld newspaper.

"It does not matter how much money he has and how good his legal team is, he will have to live with his conscience," Mr Steenkamp said.

Yeah and Reeva's family and friends will now have to live with knowing they will never see her again, because that so and so took her life and seemingly feels little remorse for doing so by reading some of the stuff being said in that court. How little did he value his girlfriend's life one has to wonder because he seems to come across as having little regard for her Family and Friends feelings at their loss

[Kizzy]

I agree, I have often thought was the answer to just about any discussion ever.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/vide...amp-bail-video

[Tom4784]

I don't know what to think of this case really.

[arista]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

I don't know what to think of this case really.

Dezzy
he is 100% Guilty
I mean Feck Me - He shot her through her hand into her head


What do you want another OJ?


Dezzy Never go on Court Duty

[Bluerang1]

People need to stop focusing on him and remember that an innocent woman died.

His case is stupid. Had Reeva not ever gone to the the bathroom before?

I don't see a reason for him to kill her so he could get away with it. But his case is stupid, you killed her, face the punishment.

[Omah]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-21563911

The brother of South African athlete Oscar Pistorius - accused of murdering his girlfriend - is also facing trial over the death of a woman.

Carl Pistorius is charged with culpable homicide over the death of a woman motorcyclist in a traffic accident, his lawyer said.

The charges against Carl Pistorius over an accident involving his car in which a woman on a motorcycle died date back to 2010 but have only just emerged, local media reports say.

They were confirmed to the BBC by Pistorius family lawyer Kenneth Oldwage.

The accident took place in the town of Vanderbijlpark, an hour's drive south of Johannesburg.

Police conducted tests on Carl Pistorius and he was found to have no alcohol in his blood at the time, the BBC's Milton Nkosi in Johannesburg says.

He is due in court at the end of March, which means his trial may end before his younger brother Oscar's is due to begin on 4 June.

WTF .....

How many other "homicides" in the Pistorius family .....

[Omah]

http://www.smh.com.au/world/pistoriu...#ixzz2LoISFEOt

Carl Pistorius allegedly killed a female motorcyclist while driving outside Johannesburg, his lawyer Kenny Oldwage confirmed to eNews Africa Channel and Eyewitness News.

Prosecutors accused Carl Pistorius of driving recklessly in the accident.

Oldwage denies the charges and told the TV channel that Carl Pistorius was not drunk.

Oldwage says the woman died because she drove into Carl Pistorius’s car, the New York Post reports.

Carl Pistorius is charged with culpable homicide, a lesser charge than the premeditated murder case against his brother.

The charge carries a possible 15-year prison term. Carl’s trial was supposed to begin last Friday, the same day his Olympian brother was freed on bail.

But the case was postponed until next month.

The "developments" in this case almost beggar belief .....

[Omah]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...tand-them.html

The aunt of alleged murderer Oscar Pistorius is one of South Africa's criminal profilers, it has been revealed.

Micki Pistorius, 52, is the author of 'Profiling Serial Killers and other crimes in South Africa' and spent six years in the country's police department as founder of an investigative psychology unit.

During her role, she was involved in more than 30 serial killer cases and helped train nearly 200 detectives in the investigation of serial homicides.


She regularly attended court with the rest of the Pistorius family during his bail hearing last week, but has not made any public comment about his case as yet.

A prosecution lawyer confirmed to The Independent yesterday that Dr Pistorius will not be consulted about her nephew's psychology due to her family ties - although the issue is likely to be discussed in court.

The athlete has been accused of having 'a propensity for violence' during his bail hearing but magistrate Desmond Nair said he was not satisfied this had been proven.

In her book 'Catch Me A Killer', Dr Pistorius claimed to have extra-sensory powers of perception which she called 'cryptesthesia'.

She has also made controversial comments about killers saying: 'Serial killers are not monsters; they are human beings with tortured souls. I will never condone what they do, but I can understand them.'

ESP, my arse .....

[Omah]

Pistorius is due to report at Brooklyn police station in eastern Pretoria before 1pm local time (11am GMT) in what will also mark his first public appearance since being released on bail on Friday.

[Omah]

Is he late ?

[Omah]

http://www.news24.com/SouthAfrica/Ne...ck-in-20130225

Pretoria - There seems to be some confusion as to whether Oscar Pistorius does indeed have to present himself at the Brooklyn police station, a report said on Monday.

Eyewitness News said it had been told by a National Prosecuting Authority official that it was not a requirement of bail.

Despite the State and defence agreeing that the paralympian should present himself at the police station, this is not specified in Pistorius’s bail order.

Police officials have also been trying to establish the details of the order from the prosecuting authority, EWN said.

Arnold Pistorius, the sprinter’s uncle, was however spotted driving past the police station earlier on Monday.

Yet another cock-up .....

On Friday :

1442: Magistrate Desmond Nair has set bail conditions - Mr Pistorius must deposit 1m rand (Ł73,823) in cash and guarantees, he must hand over his passport, avoid his home in Pretoria and report to a police station between 07:00 and 13:00 every Monday and Friday.

[Omah]

http://www.ndtv.com/article/world/os...e-court-335281

Pretoria: Star athlete Oscar Pistorius, who has been charged with murdering his girlfriend, does not have to report to police as part of his bail terms contrary to previous reports, a clerk at Pretoria Magistrate Court clerk said on Monday.

"It is not part of his bail conditions," the clerk told AFP.

The bail order document seen by AFP confirmed it was not one of the terms.

The 26-year-old double amputee athlete known as the "Blade Runner" was released on a one million rand ($112,408) bond on Friday.

He was expected to report to the Brooklyn police station in Pretoria on Monday morning, where a large contingent of local and international media were waiting, but did not turn up.

Earlier reports had said that Pistorius had to sign in at the police station on Mondays and Fridays between 0500 GMT and 1100 GMT.

But the condition had been a suggestion from defence and prosecution teams that the magistrate, Desmond Nair, had not included in his final order, a prosecution official confirmed.

"The NPA (National Prosecuting Authority) has confirmed that the condition that he report to the Brooklyn police station has not been made an order of court," the official told AFP.

So, did the magistrate say one thing and do another or did the whole world's press get it wrong .....

[Omah]

Pistorius May Ask to Ease Bail Conditions, Lawyer Says

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-0...wyer-says.html

Feb 25, 2013 8:57 AM GMT.
Oscar Pistorius, the double-amputee track star charged with the murder of his girlfriend, is considering asking the court to ease bail conditions that include reporting to police twice a week, his lawyer Kenny Oldwage said.

“He just really wants to get on with his life,” Oldwage said by phone today.

[Suze]

Originally Posted by Omah

Pistorius May Ask to Ease Bail Conditions, Lawyer Says

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-0...wyer-says.html

FFS! What an unfeeling git he is. He doesn't seem to comprehend the seriousness of what he has done, or doesn't want to, and the thing is he will probably get away with it

[Omah]

Originally Posted by Suze

FFS! What an unfeeling git he is. He doesn't seem to comprehend the seriousness of what he has done, or doesn't want to, and the thing is he will probably get away with it

Well, he's already getting preferential treatment .....

I doubt that he would be allowed such freedom if he were a black athlete, limbless or not .....

[Brother Leon]

Originally Posted by Omah

Well, he's already getting preferential treatment .....

I doubt that he would be allowed such freedom if he were a black athlete, limbless or not .....

What a stupid thing to say.

[Omah]

Originally Posted by Brother Leon

What a stupid thing to say.

Who are you calling stupid?

[Omah]

http://www.startribune.com/world/192839161.html

JOHANNESBURG - A spokeswoman for Oscar Pistorius says he has reported to authorities in South Africa's capital, Pretoria, under the bail terms in the murder case against him.

Lunice Johnston said Monday that the double-amputee Olympic athlete visited correctional officers, but she did not specify their location in the city.

So, is the deal so that he can avoid the press?