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Old 17-07-2013, 02:11 AM #176
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Hazel will be booed to high heaven when she exits the house. Including by the women there.

There will be very little sympathy - apart from a few posters on forums.
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A real man would never blame the girl for his aggression
even real men don't deserve to have their pants pulled down.....he was weak and allowed himself to be manipulated.....I don't eventhink he fancied her, he actually felt pressurised to like her. hes nowhere near as clever as hazel, she knew it and exploited this to the full....I think he was just as scared as she was only in a different way
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Hazel will be booed to high heaven when she exits the house. Including by the women there.

There will be very little sympathy - apart from a few posters on forums.
they could play sympathy for the devil
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even real men don't deserve to have their pants pulled down.....he was weak and allowed himself to be manipulated.....I don't eventhink he fancied her, he actually felt pressurised to like her. hes nowhere near as clever as hazel, she knew it and exploited this to the full....I think he was just as scared as she was only in a different way
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even real men don't deserve to have their pants pulled down.....he was weak and allowed himself to be manipulated.....I don't eventhink he fancied her, he actually felt pressurised to like her. hes nowhere near as clever as hazel, she knew it and exploited this to the full....I think he was just as scared as she was only in a different way
He was, finally we agree on something .
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Pressurised to like her?

If you actually payed any attention to the programme, you'd know that DALEY instigated the relationship to begin with, not Hazel.

He confessed to liking her.

Also, no one's saying he deserved his pants pulled. But Hazel didn't deserve aggressive threats and a throttling in return. That's the point.
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Pressurised to like her?

If you actually payed any attention to the programme, you'd know that DALEY instigated the relationship to begin with, not Hazel.

He confessed to liking her.

Also, no one's saying he deserved his pants pulled. But Hazel didn't deserve aggressive threats and a throttling in return. That's the point.
no I agree she didn't. both were a disgrace, daley righly booted. she probably should have been too. so where do we stop with this marsh?
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Stop with what?

You're the one excusing an aggressive mans behaviour by claiming the victim is to blame. I'm simply defending.
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Stop with what?

You're the one excusing an aggressive mans behaviour by claiming the victim is to blame. I'm simply defending.
no Im not. youre lying.
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no Im not. youre lying.
''hes nowhere near as clever as hazel, she knew it and exploited this to the full....I think he was just as scared as she was only in a different way''

Kind of looks like you are....
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''hes nowhere near as clever as hazel, she knew it and exploited this to the full....I think he was just as scared as she was only in a different way''

Kind of looks like you are....
that's because youre choosing to misinterpret it in a very disingenuous way..
Ive said 101 times daley deserved the boot, but so did she
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I'm not lying. You suggest Hazel purposely got him into the state he was in so she could play the victim. It's all on this forum for people to read.

Your sexist claptrap is well known on this forum.

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that's because youre choosing to misinterpret it in a very disingenuous way..
Ive said 101 times daley deserved the boot, but so did she
It was a direct quote from one of your posts, I can't help it if you're contradicting yourself.
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I'm not lying. You suggest Hazel purposely got him into the state he was in so she could play the victim. It's all on this forum for people to read.

Your sexist claptrap is well known on this forum.
yet another false accusation.....you are lying in your previous reply. yes of course hazel has been manipulating this situation even before she entered the house. you force yourself on a guy, deprice him of sleep, even after agreeing with him for both parties to back away and just be friends, then demand hugs in his bed, then stick a pillow over his face then pull his pants down to expose his penis to millions and you don't think she was expecting a reaction? you actually believe this all happened by accident and shewas innocent as a little lamb. I have said no one should invade anothers boundaries....if you or I or anyone pulled down a persons underwear against their will Id expect to get in serious trouble....you ignore all this as trival.
I deplore violence against women and men. he was wrong to lose control, he was wrong as she was to take this flirting so far.....he didn't hit her but he was wrong to threaten her and wrong to put his hands on her neck and was rightly booted, she should also have been bootedimho
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It was a direct quote from one of your posts, I can't help it if you're contradicting yourself.
Im not you are
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I genuinely thought he meant sexist the other way round with his post
As in it's shocking how Daley is getting so much sympathy & Hazel won't, as in sexist against Women. Was he not?

Anyway, Hazel does not come across as a nice lady eyeing up a taken man but I think everyones in agreement that she did not deserve what happened to her. I feel bad for Daley too, he seems so damaged & I hope he gets the help he needs.
No, I perceived it as I perceive many of the user's sexist posts.
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I'm not arguing with you over it. It's there in black and white for everyone to see.

Sexist, and when called out on it you contradict what you've said before.
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why's that then?
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I know you are but what am I?

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I'm not arguing with you over it. It's there in black and white for everyone to see.

Sexist, and when called out on it you contradict what you've said before.
no I didn't. youre lying, yet again
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So here's a question - BB/BotS/Endemol/Daily Star...all the same trough for the pigs to get their slop. So how does one reconcile the corporate interview on BotS with the corporate headline over at the Star:



Either he's completely without remorse and gave a real interview. Or, he's got some twisted form or regret that he's half-assing as remorse (IF I offended anyone, sorry about that) but the corporation did the headline anyway. Or, he was being spoonfed the party line temper him just enough until the paper could land tomorrow.

So which is the real Daley?
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What a creep! I knew it those were crocodile tears we saw tonight.... he has no remorse, no idea he did anything wrong! sick.
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What a creep! I knew it those were crocodile tears we saw tonight.... he has no remorse, no idea he did anything wrong! sick.
he has at least apologised, what about hazels apology?
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he has at least apologised, what about hazels apology?
It's like a broken record

He never apologized to anyone, especially not to the woman he pinned to the bed. He said "IF" he offended anyone he was sorry. Politician 101 - admit to nothing and make it sound like it's someone else's fault for being offended, not your fault for doing something wrong.
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It's like a broken record

He never apologized to anyone, especially not to the woman he pinned to the bed. He said "IF" he offended anyone he was sorry. Politician 101 - admit to nothing and make it sound like it's someone else's fault for being offended, not your fault for doing something wrong.
And it all sounded very scripted/forced.
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