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All hail the Moyesiah
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The voice of reason
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![]() ![]() ![]() what a joke. Kizzy you need to shut this thread down asap |
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What's so funny, how can you fund a revolution if you have no revenue...
If he sells 'Branded' (geddit) goods and it benefits those he works with and for what's the problem? The mail stepping up their hate campaign due to his anti tory stance during the election? ![]()
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Brand is hardly going to be short on funds, and it's not a revolution, it's a marketing ploy. A revolution should not be so exclusive that you can be prosecuted if you want to take up its logo. All genuinely radical activists must think he's a complete tool.
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He wouldn't make anything to aid anyone if there was someone after selling knock off trews goods due to their popularity would there? I can see his reasoning.
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self-oscillating
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Responding to a question on Twitter last year on where the book profits would go, he said they would fund the Trew Era Cafe in Hackney, East London, a ‘social enterprise to get recovering addicts into work’.
The star himself added: ‘I funded Trew Era Cafe as promised. With any lolly we procure, we’ll set up more enterprises to help people and build community.’ Try harder mail... ![]()
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fair play that was funny stuff...Cameron better start in life? he went straight from the vagina into a top hat lol
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brands videos do have some impact, he has some smart people with him making watchable videos questioning poiliticians....but in the end Im not convinced and hes not really trusted. hes clearly a hardcore liberal...But the revolution isn't going in that direction, hes not a champion of the people and his politically correct dogma is out of step now with a tide of rebellion where people see past political correctness to find the real truth. brands pro drugs tirade is again out of step. people are sick of losing the war on drugs. drug related crime here is off the scale tens of thousands worse than the usa....the fact brand goes from playing the educated leftie to the clueless cockney comic when quizzed about what the leaders should actually do....he offers no opinion at all? that's spineless. he mocks he taunts he ridicules but he doesn't have the guts to suggest a way forward. I think hes wrong about drugs, he says nothing about jobs or job creation, he says nothing about Europe, he says nothing about nationalisation or unions nor does he take history into account in his rants...in the end he isn't really saying much of any depth , hes a smug attention seeker on an ego trip.
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I agree truth, he makes great observations of the problems (and I enjoy his videos for that alone) but doesn't offer much in the way of solutions, but then, I find myself in that position a lot too, being able to see the glaring unfairness and downright horror in the world but not really being able to offer any way to change it. I suspect that perhaps Brand just finds it the way I do: There aren't really any solutions. The world is full of too many people (the population boom over the last few hundred years is terrifying), too many different ideologies, too many seeking power.
Quite simply, no one can come up with a way to make it work because it just doesn't work. |
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He doesn't profess to have the answers, he just shines a light on the real problems behind issues that are as per put down to anything but corrupt business and or governmental practice.
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hes not a politician but hes not an artist either and in the end he is so spineless he has less productive ideas than the average man on the street.... compared to someone who influenced popular culture , political and cultural thinking, like Michael moore who does infinitely more homework than brand, or oliver stones epic movies and the hidden truths of America or political heavyweights like tony benn, Michael foot, etc etc hed be debated out of the room within 5 minutes....brand is light years behind imo....or even take bob Dylan or even great journalists like alan wicker, david frost, or poltical comics like bill hicks, brand comes up way short, hes a symptom of the times...or compare to the real peoples poet bob Dylan , a man who questions all of society through his art. brand doesn't shine his light everywhere he shines it where it suits him and his agendas...that makes him a smaller less honest person imo...brand is also a lousy listener which is something which turns me off any person....bob Dylan questioned everyone and everybody with his incomparable genius....he made us question, he made us think , he bamboozled and delighted us leaving confused quizzical and enriched. yet Dylan himself didn't try to make himself the star, he just pointed his inquisitive razor sharp torch at the unseen subtleties and tells us of rich detailed tales we may have missed...yet Dylan himself doesn't exist as a celebrity, hes not even the person we try to paint him as, because he cant be put in a box or labelled, hes just too big for that...I just don't feel that way about brand at all...hes good in a limited way to expose the donuts working on some news channels but when he tries to tell millions of kids to think in such black and white terms and not to vote, I do worry about his influence....id even say hes quite dangerous as his simplistic rants may work in a dumbed down era where the attention span of average joe is now less than 2 minutes, that will always get a round of applause or cheap laugh from a hand picked brainless tv audience, allied to his gutless lack of actual ideas and liberal leanings have enormous influence on impressionable kids who tend to view the world through black and white, rather than rich complex ambiguous matrix of dylans colourful grey world Last edited by the truth; 19-05-2015 at 09:49 PM. |
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I'm not sure why he offends you so much, His vids are just a stream of consciousness... he isn't a musician a politician or an investigative journalist.
Just a comedian, a bloke who has an opinion pulling his views from his experiences as a student, low income earner, addict and celebrity. They aren't the musings of a philosopher just a man with flaws, there's no contract he has to sign have his say or for you to disagree.
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Why on earth would they? You would have to be pretty feeble minded to gauge all your opinions from the guy :/
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Yes that's why we have a conservative government sadly
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