[Dollface]

To all the still bitter remainers.... We won, we're out, we're happy, so you might as well get over it because moaning and whining and showing yourselves up isn't going to get you anywhere. You lost. Suck it up ;(

[Scarlett.]

Originally Posted by Dollface

To all the still bitter remainers.... We won, we're out, we're happy, so you might as well get over it because moaning and whining and showing yourselves up isn't going to get you anywhere. You lost. Suck it up ;(

So we're expected to stay quiet while everything is going to hell?

[Dollface]

Originally Posted by Chewy

So we're expected to stay quiet while everything is going to hell?

Well, it'd only be natural to express your worries etc. but this whole "the oldies have ruined it for the youngens!!!!" crap is just stupid.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Chewy

everything is going to hell?

Overreaction.

[Scarlett.]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

Overreaction.

Hardly.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Chewy

Hardly.

Extreme.

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Dollface

To all the still bitter remainers.... We won, we're out, we're happy, so you might as well get over it because moaning and whining and showing yourselves up isn't going to get you anywhere. You lost. Suck it up ;(

You said you didn't vote, so you opted for the status quo..you lost

[reece(:]

It's worse that Leave are showing themselves up considering they've won, rather telling!

[Dollface]

Originally Posted by reece(:

It's worse that Leave are showing themselves up considering they've won, rather telling!

We're celebrating our victory loov, which remain would have done too... HAD they won. but they didn't x

[Dollface]

I actually felt sorry for Remain at first and sympathized with their loss, but then I saw how nasty the majority of the sore losers were being and all the pity I felt just withered away, so, might as well enjoy winding 'em up.

[Scarlett.]

Originally Posted by Dollface

I actually felt sorry for Remain at first and sympathized with their loss, but then I saw how nasty the majority of the sore losers were being and all the pity I felt just withered away, so, might as well enjoy winding 'em up.

This isn't some BB eviction. The whole thing is real and will affect a lot of people, its not about being "sore losers" it's about being deeply worried about where the UK is headed economically and politically. This fear and worry naturally generates anger. Remember the gap between leave and remain was just over 1m. Like, think how close that actually is. It's almost a split down the middle of the country.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Chewy

This isn't some BB eviction.

I've lost count of the number of people who seem fit to inform us it wasn't a BB or X Factor vote.

You're kidding?

[Scarlett.]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

I've lost count of the number of people who seem fit to inform us it wasn't a BB or X Factor vote.

You're kidding?

Well to be fair the language I'm seeing in this thread makes me think that perhaps some people don't know the difference. Feelings don't just disappear because the ever so slightly majority voted against those us. Leave keep talking about how they want to make Britain great again, well that will include closing the gulf that this referendum has created.

[armand.kay]

Originally Posted by Chewy

This isn't some BB eviction. The whole thing is real and will affect a lot of people, its not about being "sore losers" it's about being deeply worried about where the UK is headed economically and politically. This fear and worry naturally generates anger. Remember the gap between leave and remain was just over 1m. Like, think how close that actually is. It's almost a split down the middle of the country.

Originally Posted by Chewy

Well to be fair the language I'm seeing in this thread makes me think that perhaps some people don't know the difference. Feelings don't just disappear because the ever so slightly majority voted against those us. Leave keep talking about how they want to make Britain great again, well that will include closing the gulf that this referendum has created.

This this this!!!

I see so much **** on fbook of people saying things like "we're leaving get over it and stop moaning"... Like are you being ****ing serious? This is a massive and scary change that will effect us all for the rest of out lives. We were already seeing some of the concequeces before it was even mid day... How can anyone be anything but a bit passionate about what's happened rn? Especially when it's not even been 24hrs since it was made official? Instead of moaning and winging about the remain lot ruining your victory pint with the reality of what's just happened, try give your take on what's going on. Like people have said in here before we've not just voted out Jayne from BB (as tragic as that would be) or the next Beyoncé from the Xfactor. This is not a case of "hahaha we win stop being so pressed you lefties" "lefties tears ohh" (a used and tiered joke btw). It's more than that imo and I feel like people acting like that have underestimated how important and above that this referendum should be.

How are people who've lost meant to react just sit there quietly and accept the fact that in their eyes their country has let them down massively by ****ing up their future Based on a campaign of half truths, fear and intolerance?

I respect that the majority have spoken and I respect everyone's right to vote but when I'm seeing leave voters being interviewed in disbelief over their vote actually counting and not being sure what they had actually done it does make me furious. One girl on my facebook actually wrote a status asking what it meant now that we'd left Europe, someone replies asking her why she voted to leave if she had no idea what was gonna happen and she responded with (I kid you not) something along the lines of "the Muslims were all gonna be let in from Syria and come here and be violent and I don't want to raise [son's name] in a violent environment" :/.... And yeah I know those two examples are not a representation of all the leave voters but seeing stuff like this kind of supports my theory that a few people who voted leave were not informed enough about the repercussions of making such a decision for Britain. I believe fear mongering, snappy key words intolerance and key words & slogans that made leaving feel as if it was the patriotic and right thing to do was what led a good amount of people to vote out and that's not good enough imo.

I'm not actually sure what we're gonna do now this all seems so chaotic, everyone seems so shocked that we actually voted to leave and it seems like Scotland may want another referendum. So it's not looking like there's a way forward. All I can do is hope that I'm proven wrong and Britain recovers from this greater than ever.

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by armand.kay

This this this!!!

I see so much **** on fbook of people saying things like "we're leaving get over it and stop moaning"... Like are you being ****ing serious? This is a massive and scary change that will effect us all for the rest of out lives. We were already seeing some of the concequeces before it was even mid day... How can anyone be anything but a bit passionate about what's happened rn? Especially when it's not even been 24hrs since it was made official? Instead of moaning and winging about the remain lot ruining your victory pint with the reality of what's just happened, try give your take on what's going on. Like people have said in here before we've not just voted out Jayne from BB (as tragic as that would be) or the next Beyoncé from the Xfactor. This is not a case of "hahaha we win stop being so pressed you lefties" "lefties tears ohh" (a used and tiered joke btw). It's more than that imo and I feel like people acting like that have underestimated how important and above that this referendum should be.

How are people who've lost meant to react just sit there quietly and accept the fact that in their eyes their country has let them down massively by ****ing up their future Based on a campaign of half truths, fear and intolerance?

I respect that the majority have spoken and I respect everyone's right to vote but when I'm seeing leave voters being interviewed in disbelief over their vote actually counting and not being sure what they had actually done it does make me furious. One girl on my facebook actually wrote a status asking what it meant now that we'd left Europe, someone replies asking her why she voted to leave if she had no idea what was gonna happen and she responded with (I kid you not) something along the lines of "the Muslims were all gonna be let in from Syria and come here and be violent and I don't want to raise [son's name] in a violent environment" :/.... And yeah I know those two examples are not a representation of all the leave voters but seeing stuff like this kind of supports my theory that a few people who voted leave were not informed enough about the repercussions of making such a decision for Britain. I believe fear mongering, snappy key words intolerance and key words & slogans that made leaving feel as if it was the patriotic and right thing to do was what led a good amount of people to vote out and that's not good enough imo.

I'm not actually sure what we're gonna do now this all seems so chaotic, everyone seems so shocked that we actually voted to leave and it seems like Scotland may want another referendum. So it's not looking like there's a way forward. All I can do is hope that I'm proven wrong and Britain recovers from this greater than ever.

Armand What a thoughtful we'll put together post, I have also heard some astonishing admissions from people who voted to leave, like I voted out to make a stand but I didn't want to leave I'm think this will have a ripple effect and the ramifications are huge, who knows where this process will take us, hopefully it will be okay, but at the moment it feels like living in a very tense atmosphere just waiting to explode.

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by Dollface

I actually felt sorry for Remain at first and sympathized with their loss, but then I saw how nasty the majority of the sore losers were being and all the pity I felt just withered away, so, might as well enjoy winding 'em up.

Please, Leave has all the racist thugs, EDL, and the Britain First inbreds. If you think people being annoyed at Leave winning is 'nasty' then be thankful Leave didn't lose because blood would have been spilled.

[bots]

I think we need to look at why the vote was out because although each who supported that decision believes it was because everyone had a common goal, it is far from reality.

Some voted because they wanted control of immigration, some to take back political control from Brussels, but I think the majority voted exit because they were just generally dissatisfied with their current circumstances and wanted to vote exit to register that feeling.

In a standard general election, people basicallly have a choice of 2 parties. The majority are unhappy with both of them but consider one the lesser of the evils. so although dissatisfied, they pick one to support. The EU referendum gave all those voters the opportunity to say ... we dislike you all, so they voted for brexit.

Even amongst the political groups that supported and campaigned for brexit, there is little evidence of any agreement between them, they just each cherry picked a reason to be dissatisfied and ran with it. In those circumstances its easy to find a voter who will agree.

So, if general dissatisfaction was the real reason for voting brexit, we now have a circumstance where our main political parties are in dissarray, so in that respect, the aim has been achieved. The parties will now have to re-allign themselves to represent what people really think is important them, so believe it or not, its probably for the best and this is coming from someone who took the vote for what it was ... a vote about the EU and voted to remain.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

I think we need to look at why the vote was out because although each who supported that decision believes it was because everyone had a common goal, it is far from reality.

Some voted because they wanted control of immigration, some to take back political control from Brussels, but I think the majority voted exit because they were just generally dissatisfied with their current circumstances and wanted to vote exit to register that feeling.

In a standard general election, people basicallly have a choice of 2 parties. The majority are unhappy with both of them but consider one the lesser of the evils. so although dissatisfied, they pick one to support. The EU referendum gave all those voters the opportunity to say ... we dislike you all, so they voted for brexit.

Even amongst the political groups that supported and campaigned for brexit, there is little evidence of any agreement between them, they just each cherry picked a reason to be dissatisfied and ran with it. In those circumstances its easy to find a voter who will agree.

So, if general dissatisfaction was the real reason for voting brexit, we now have a circumstance where our main political parties are in dissarray, so in that respect, the aim has been achieved. The parties will now have to re-allign themselves to represent what people really think is important them, so believe it or not, its probably for the best and this is coming from someone who took the vote for what it was ... a vote about the EU and voted to remain.

really so how do you figure the huge victory for Cameron in the last election?

[smudgie]

Just had a thought.
What are we going to do about the Euro Lottery once we come out?
Will we keep it but only for the British, change the name etc....in other words just do the normal national lottery but on 4 days a week, can't see the lottery people wanting to miss a trick.

[_Tom_]

Originally Posted by smudgie

Just had a thought.
What are we going to do about the Euro Lottery once we come out?
Will we keep it but only for the British, change the name etc....in other words just do the normal national lottery but on 4 days a week, can't see the lottery people wanting to miss a trick.

"As of 10.00am on Friday 24th June 2016, the UK has voted for Brexit. This will not affect the ability of UK residents to play EuroMillions; visit the EuroMillions Brexit page for more information.

Regardless of whether the UK remains in the EU or not, players will still be able to buy EuroMillions tickets, just like Great Britain will still enter EuroVision each year and European football competitions will stay the same. However, the economy is likely to be affected and shifting exchange rates will be analysed closely, and this could have a direct effect on the value of EuroMillions prizes won in the UK."

https://www.euro-millions.com/news/h...ions-in-the-uk

[smudgie]

Originally Posted by _Tom_

"As of 10.00am on Friday 24th June 2016, the UK has voted for Brexit. This will not affect the ability of UK residents to play EuroMillions; visit the EuroMillions Brexit page for more information.

Regardless of whether the UK remains in the EU or not, players will still be able to buy EuroMillions tickets, just like Great Britain will still enter EuroVision each year and European football competitions will stay the same. However, the economy is likely to be affected and shifting exchange rates will be analysed closely, and this could have a direct effect on the value of EuroMillions prizes won in the UK."

https://www.euro-millions.com/news/h...ions-in-the-uk

Thanks Tom, we can still dream the dream

[bots]

young or old people vote related to their personal circumstances. As young people tend to have less responsibilities and fears they are more likely to vote for a change and step into the dark than those with families.

Those who voted last time are entitled to have a change of mind in the interim

I am old enough to remember life before we joined the common market No one was aware at that time that the aim was political union across europe. Had they known, i don't believe it would have received a single vote.

Now we are out, we will be negotiating trade deals with other countries in europe, we will be setting up a common market .... which is what was originally voted for.

You don't see anyone complaining about the prospect of a trade deal, we all want it, so the original vote and aim has been restored.

[user104658]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

Now we are out, we will be negotiating trade deals with other countries in europe, we will be setting up a common market .... which is what was originally voted for.

You don't see anyone complaining about the prospect of a trade deal, we all want it, so the original vote and aim has been restored.

If EU members make it easy for the UK to set up beneficial trade agreements, if they allow the UK to prosper, they will be demonstrating that the UK's exit was a good idea and that may well trigger exits across the board and the complete dismantlement of the EU.

With that in mind;

Do you honestly believe that the bigger pro-EU governments will make it easy for the UK to set up any way decent trade deals?

Honestly?

[Livia]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

If EU members make it easy for the UK to set up beneficial trade agreements, if they allow the UK to prosper, they will be demonstrating that the UK's exit was a good idea and that may well trigger exits across the board and the complete dismantlement of the EU.

With that in mind;

Do you honestly believe that the bigger pro-EU governments will make it easy for the UK to set up any way decent trade deals?

Honestly?

I know you didn't ask me this question, but...

They're still going to want to sell their sh1t to us, it's not a one-way street. So... yes.

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Livia

I know you didn't ask me this question, but...

They're still going to want to sell their sh1t to us, it's not a one-way street. So... yes.

The UK is now the outsider with no safety net. It is the weakest possible negotiating position. Less to offer, less ability to hold out for more... the deals that can realistically be struck with EU member countries are always going to be skewed to the other country's advantage.