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I used to lean very strongly to the Cons.
Right up to being 18.
I care deeply about the NHS and was doubtful Cameron did.
So I voted for a coalition hopefully via the Lib Dems in 2010.

From that coalition and it's discriminatory policies which I feel were heartless to the sick and disabled.
I moved right away from the Cons in 2011/12.

They've just got worse as to their ignorance, arrogance, heartlessness and deliberate cruelty.

This present Con Party, is just about the most heartless and nastiest around in serious politics.

What's posted above doesn't surprise me in the slightest.
As to even just looking at more heartless and cruel policies

Whether ever adopted or not, I now couldn't trust this lot with just about anything.

Their hard-line supporters inflicting this Party's nastiness across the UK is really dismaying.
That some will defend them, even worse.

Someone sent me a caption with a photo of Margaret Thatcher alongside one of this rotten from the core PM.
With Margaret Thatcher's saying ' starving miners'.

This odious creep of a PM's saying ' starving minors'.
How perfectly appropriately put.

An absolute disgrace.
Indefensible.

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Charities and charitable people are the very best of us, it there should never be such a massive demand for them due to the government complete lack of decency and regard for people they see lower than them

But then, I think this is what a lot of people wanted and expected to happen when they voted for them so I guess at least some are happy
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And when you think they can't get any more twisted enter Selaine Saxby...

'North Devon MP targeted local businesses that had offered to step in to provide free school meals. She wrote: “I am delighted our local businesses have bounced back so much after lockdown they are able to give away food for free, and very much hope they will not be seeking any further government*support.'

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And when you think they can't get any more twisted enter Selaine Saxby...

'North Devon MP targeted local businesses that had offered to step in to provide free school meals. She wrote: “I am delighted our local businesses have bounced back so much after lockdown they are able to give away food for free, and very much hope they will not be seeking any further government*support.'

https://inews.co.uk/news/politics/be...ashford-736757

This government just doesn't get it.
In this pandemic particularly,any decent government would have been extending this free meal service themselves.

It's unbelievable they voted it down and continue to dismiss the criticism around it too.

I agree with Elliot too, it is indefensible completely.

This should have just been done.
No vote even needed.
However, let's hope people remember which MPs and the party they come from who did vote it down.
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I just- the fact that’s there’s even a both sides or a debate around this and there’s people in this thread defending this...
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They really expect to do heinous things and not get called out on it don’t they? Jesus
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No confusion. .it's all public or should I say 'taxpayers' money.
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You can not confuse other money.
....that’s exactly though, why the government don’t run effectively in ‘business’ terms...why for instance, the ‘books never balanced’ in schools when they were more government run...in terms of finance, they run much more efficiently as academy’s for the very reason that they don’t have all of the ‘pots’ that aren’t always needed but that can’t be spent because they have a label on them that says something else...It’s like a household not having enough for their food bills, but having a pot of money put aside for a holiday, even though they won’t be taking that holiday...but the family is being prevented from spending on food bills because the label says ‘holiday’....it’s a crazy system, it’s a government system that makes no sense at all...it’s not confusing at all to use money that’s there, it makes perfect sense...
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Ministers accused of showing 'contempt' for schools in row over laptops for self-isolating pupils...


Ministers have been accused of showing "contempt" for schools after officials slashed the number of laptops for self-isolating pupils.

Headteachers were emailed about the plans by the Department for Education (DfE) on Friday evening, the day after a legal duty on schools to provide immediate remote education for anyone at home came into force.

The email explained that since schools are more likely to have groups of children self-isolating rather than closing entirely, the allocation of laptops will be changed to reflect this.

Bu the move was met with a backlash from headteachers who said the number of laptops they had been promised was slashed overnight.

Chris Dyson, the head of Parklands Primary School in Leeds, said his laptops were cut from 61 to 13.

He wrote to the DfE saying: “You disgust me with the contempt you show disadvantaged schools. I am embarrassed to have you leading us. You are inadequate in every single way and should feel disgusted with yourselves.”

Meanwhile Sarah Murphy, head of St Werburgh’s Catholic Primary School in Merseyside said it was an "absolute joke" that her laptops had been cut from 32 to six.

A legal duty on schools to provide good quality remote education for self-isolating pupils came into force on Thursday.

The Government used emergency powers to issue a directive to schools to ensure children at home have immediate access to remote education that "aligns as closely as possible" with what their peers learn in the classroom.

Nick Brook of the National Association of Headteachers, said: “It beggars belief that within 24 hours of making immediate access to remote learning a legal requirement, the government has announced that it is reducing the number of laptops schools are eligible to receive.”

Geoff Barton, general secretary of the Association of School and College Leaders, said that ministers need to act with a "far greater sense of urgency" to ensure laptops are delivered in time.

“It’s clear that the rapid rise in infection rates across the country is leading to many more pupils needing to access remote learning, and the demand for laptops is outstripping supply at an alarming rate," he said.

Mr Barton said it is right that distribution of laptops should be prioritised to those who need them most, but added that the decision to reduce the number of laptops for some schools is a "significant blow".

A DfE spokesperson said: “The scale and speed at which the department has delivered laptops and tablets to children who need them over the past six months is unprecedented, with deliveries now set to total over half a million by Christmas.

“As we move into half term, and in the context of significant global demand, we’re updating our allocation process to more accurately align orders with the number of students schools typically have self-isolating, ensuring as many children as possible benefit from receiving a device this term.

“We have already purchased an additional 96,000 devices and continue to work closely with our suppliers to ensure delivery despite the increased global demand.”
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...we’re a Christian country, we need to be teaching Christianity...and Jesus said...’...suffer little children...’...and the government said...’...yes, why not...let’s do that...’....
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One may as well say we have money to fill potholes, so why not leave them and use that money instead?

A lot of tax money goes to things it probably shouldn't, picking on random examples doesn't help anyone. Focussing on more relevant ones -like MPs' subsidised meals- makes a better point.
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And it's only temporary, when the cuts to wages and job losses really start to bite after Christmas then we'll probably see the offers of help start to dry up, as much as many will want to help they will be in need themselves.
That's when the reality of this vote will hit. Community help is fantastic but is it sustainable long term, I don't think it is.

At that point more and more families will be in poverty and in need.
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And it's only temporary, when the cuts to wages and job losses really start to bite after Christmas then we'll probably see the offers of help start to dry up, as much as many will want to help they will be in need themselves.
That's when the reality of this vote will hit. Community help is fantastic but is it sustainable long term, I don't think it is.

At that point more and more families will be in poverty and in need.
Surely after the criticism of this, although muted in most of the media
Even this ignorant and uncaring lot must back down and put this service in place.
I mean I know they haven't an ounce of caring but seeing this shocking own goal they've set up against themselves.

Surely they will now cave in.

Although listening to Ben Bradley Con MP for Mansfield this morning, I wouldn't hold my.breath on that one.

There's a real row brewing over an MP being called scum.
Well, scum can be defined as being low, vile or worthless.
That Clarkson creep qualifies for 2 of those descriptions quite easily probably.
In my view.

Even moreso if this service isn't put in place by the government backing down on it..
Albeit them being dragged kicking and screaming to do so.

Unbelievable any would still even try to defend them.

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...the face of homelessness has changed so much though, that’s where all of the government funding has been focused as we’ve seen, working on solving that...

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But that's not always possible without help when it comes to unprivileged families. Free school meals schemes exist for a reason, and should always be honoured all year round, in the form of food vouchers when the schools aren't on.
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Parents' priority should always be to provide the best possible lives for their kids, and food is always part of that.

But that's not always possible without help when it comes to unprivileged families. Free school meals schemes exist for a reason, and should always be honoured all year round, in the form of food vouchers when the schools aren't on.
I completely agree with all that.

After all this was just to extend it for school holiday periods too.
The fact the government choose to make a refusal to do so from them, is again I say beyond defending.

Only they and their MPs did too.
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