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Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

My wife works with victims of sexual violence professionally Goldheart. You’re simply incorrect that there would definitely be permanent injuries/medical attention needed.

There would be with a broken bottle.

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Originally Posted by Vanessa

There would be with a broken bottle.

Yeah something that 'violent' would likely BREAK the bottle causing further injuries. Or even if it didn't break the bottle , it would still cause alot of physical & mental damage to the person.

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it doesnt matter how many lies Herd tells, when it all boils down to it, if even one thing she says is true, Depp has lost the case

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Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

My wife works with victims of sexual violence professionally Goldheart. You’re simply incorrect that there would definitely be permanent injuries/medical attention needed.

Are you being serious!??? . There's people who CAN'T have children because they've been abused so badly. Due to severe injuries ,and you don't think they'd be medical attention needed from a GLASS BOTTLE being shoved into someone's private frontal area !?? ,I'm lost for words .

What about when she has a smear test ,you don't think the doctor or nurse would notice bruises or scarring !??.

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I get the feeling that SHE is the abuser, not Depp.
The abuser always tries to blame the victim.
Funny how Amber has accused everyone she dated of abuse.
She told her mum her ex wife and Elon Musk also abused her.

[user104658]

Originally Posted by GoldHeart

Are you being serious!??? . There's people who CAN'T have children because they've been abused so badly. Due to severe injuries ,and you don't think they'd be medical attention needed from a GLASS BOTTLE being shoved into someone's private frontal area !?? ,I'm lost for words .

What about when she has a smear test ,you don't think the doctor or nurse would notice bruises or scarring !??.

I didn't say "it definitely wouldn't cause serious injury", I said "it wouldn't definitely cause serious injury".

If you don't understand the difference, I can't really help you.

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Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

I didn't say "it definitely wouldn't cause serious injury", I said "it wouldn't definitely cause serious injury".

If you don't understand the difference, I can't really help you.

But there DEFINITELY WOULD be physical injuries,if this story was factual and not a fantasy concocted in Heard's head . She's been taking tips from the movie ' Gone Girl ' by looks of it .

[Liam-]

Sorry, but claiming an attack as vicious as she described wouldn’t require medical attention is actually laughable

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Vanessa

There would be with a broken bottle.

Originally Posted by Liam-

Sorry, but claiming an attack as vicious as she described wouldn’t require medical attention is actually laughable

Only if you believe the apparently spreading false narrative that she said it was a broken bottle, or an entire bottle, which she did not, and nothing she said suggests that it was necessarily more than the bottle neck, which would have been painful and extremely violating but would not necessarily have caused lasting injury or injury that required medical attention.

But you guys by all means carry on refusing to believe a woman’s account of sexual assault “because she wasn’t injured enough for it to be true”. Jesus ****ing christ. Just gross in all honesty. The exact same misogynist bull**** that has rape conviction rates pathetically low. “you can’t have been raped love, you’re not hurt enough!”

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She's told way too many lies.
Adding things that weren't in the original statement.
Her latest stunt : trying to pass a picture of her with chapped lips as her being punched.
And it was proved to be a lie.
Nah, she's a fraud.

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Vanessa

She's told way too many lies.
Adding things that weren't in the original statement.
Her latest stunt : trying to pass a picture of her with chapped lips as her being punched.
And it was proved to be a lie.
Nah, she's a fraud.

According to Depp’s legal team. It has not been “proved” to be anything. Did you see this on social media? Because if you want lies, that’s where to find them.

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Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

According to Depp’s legal team. It has not been “proved” to be anything. Did you see this on social media? Because if you want lies, that’s where to find them.

The picture is out there. I've seen it and it's just her with a chapped lip. No swelling.
Heard is known for picking her lip, she's been doing it in court as well.

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Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

According to Depp’s legal team. It has not been “proved” to be anything. Did you see this on social media? Because if you want lies, that’s where to find them.

All the cuts and bruises she claims to have ,are so tiny you'd need a magnify glass to see them. One of them looks like a tiny scratch on her arm and the other looks like chapped lip/ skin..... like what Vanessa said .

Depp had a SEVERED finger , blood was everywhere and he had a bandage on it. Dakota Johnson asked him about his finger injury .... and he tried to joke it off. But she could tell something wasn't right . Depp's housekeeper found his finger tip in a kitchen towel.

I've seen photo's of Depp with proper bruises on his face.

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Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

Only if you believe the apparently spreading false narrative that she said it was a broken bottle, or an entire bottle, which she did not, and nothing she said suggests that it was necessarily more than the bottle neck, which would have been painful and extremely violating but would not necessarily have caused lasting injury or injury that required medical attention.

But you guys by all means carry on refusing to believe a woman’s account of sexual assault “because she wasn’t injured enough for it to be true”. Jesus ****ing christ. Just gross in all honesty. The exact same misogynist bull**** that has rape conviction rates pathetically low. “you can’t have been raped love, you’re not hurt enough!”

TS you yourself have just admitted that the bottle would be "painful & violating" , so how can you then say it wouldn't require medical attention?? . It just doesn't make any sense, even when a soft item is used in such a sensitive area .... you can still do damage ,let alone a GLASS BOTTLE being forced roughly where it SHOULDN'T GO .

I don't know why you think it makes a difference if it's just the 'neck bottle' or if it's a 'unbroken bottle' , all of these things are still horrible . And by now she would have had a medical examination.

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Amber Heard is being investigated by the LAPD for perjury. Apparently she and her friend rocky staged the big fight that resulted in the restraining order.
She accused the la police of lying. Yeah, because according to her everyone is lying, except for her!

[Parmy]

Originally Posted by Vanessa

Amber Heard is being investigated by the LAPD for perjury. Apparently she and her friend rocky staged the big fight that resulted in the restraining order.
She accused the la police of lying. Yeah, because according to her everyone is lying, except for her!

Do you have a link?

[user104658]

Earlier this week, it was revealed that Amber Heard was arrested in 2009 after she and her then-girlfriend, Tasya van Ree, got into an argument at an airport.

The 30-year-old actress was taken into custody and booked for misdemeanor domestic violence after she allegedly struck Ree at the Seattle-Tacoma International airport.

And while the two split years ago, Ree is speaking out in support of her ex-girlfriend.

"In 2009, Amber was wrongfully accused for an incident that was misinterpreted and over-sensationalized by two individuals in a powerful position," her statement, which was obtained by E! News, began.

"I recount hints of misogynistic attitudes toward us which later appeared to be homophobic when they found out we were domestic partners and not just ‘friends.' Charges were quickly dropped and she was released moments later."

Ree continued, "It's disheartening that Amber's integrity and story are being questioned yet again. Amber is a brilliant, honest and beautiful woman and I have the utmost respect for her. We shared 5 wonderful years together and remain close to this day."

https://www.eonline.com/news/771257/...se-allegations

Article from 2016.

Doesn't follow the zeitgeist narrative so people may not have seen these comments.

[Liam-]

I don’t think she’s telling the truth no, it’s got nothing to do with misogyny though, despite how hard you’re trying to paint anyone that doesn’t believe her as that, heaven forbid people make up their own opinions based on evidence provided rather than the gender of the accuser, you really need to work on your issue with people disagreeing with you, it’s weird

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Liam-

I don’t think she’s telling the truth no, it’s got nothing to do with misogyny though, despite how hard you’re trying to paint anyone that doesn’t believe her as that, heaven forbid people make up their own opinions based on evidence provided rather than the gender of the accuser, you really need to work on your issue with people disagreeing with you, it’s weird

It has everything to do with misogyny, and people are basing their opinions (quite blatantly) on social media gossip and fake news, not “evidence” of any kind. No “evidence” of anything has been offered in this thread whatsoever.

I have no issue with people disagreeing with me but if you’re looking for an “each to their own” chat experience where no one is challenged when they say questionable things - such as suggesting women shouldn’t be believed unless they can show evidence of severe injury (this simply is flat misogyny, in my opinion, of course) - then I’d suggest a debate section is not your cup of tea? You’re entitled to your opinion… you’re not entitled to your opinion not being challenged.

[Liam-]

Nah, no misogyny here mate, women are class, when they’re not making up horrific examples of domestic abuse, that is.

I have no problem with debate, I love our debates, they bring me endless amounts of joy, you should just work on the whole, talking down to people, thing, that’s one the thing that makes people not want to debate things on here, you don’t want a debate, you just seem to like making believe believe you’re the smartest person on every subject, you don’t have to go on the attack quite so much

[Kizzy]

The whole bottle scenario sounds like something from a horror film... I donto know if it's true or not, it seems strange it's the first time it's come to light really. It's all just so crazy!

They will definitely make a film about this one day, you never know they might play themselves? :/

[Parmy]

Have you ever got so angry that you totally lost it with someone....she asked the couples housekeeper.


That would be one of my 1st questions during her interview for the position.

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Originally Posted by parmnion

Have you ever got so angry that you totally lost it with someone....she asked the couples housekeeper.


That would be one of my 1st questions during her interview for the position.

It's not Johnny's fault ,that she has no witnesses wanting to testify for her .

I don't even think her own mother ....wants anything to do with the trial.

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Originally Posted by GoldHeart

It's not Johnny's fault ,that she has no witnesses wanting to testify for her .

I don't even think her own mother ....wants anything to do with the trial.

Unfortunately hwe mother has passed away. Only the dad left.

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Originally Posted by Vanessa

Unfortunately hwe mother has passed away. Only the dad left.

Oh i didn't realise. But is her dad still around? , He hasn't been apart of the trial has he and neither has her sister .