[The Slim Reaper]

[The Slim Reaper]

Originally Posted by Cherie

Its wholly acceptable if you are an ethnic minority to vote for issues that affect you, if you are not and vote for issues that affect you, you are deemed a racist...that is how it is now I am afraid

There is/was absolutely nothing in the green party campaign that wasn't based on benefitting the whole country. Maybe you didn't like that they were proud to support the trans and ethnic minority communities?

The historic voting problem this country has, is that voters continually vote against their own interests, based on either aspiration or hatred.


There is nothing racist about honkys voting for their own interests, however, if the one issue you're talking about is the sole reform policy of kicking out the darkies, then yes, that's racist.

Youtube video

She even talks to the same white working classes she belongs to, from around one minute in.

So yes, if you believe voting for racism, would make you a racist (using you in general, not specific), then yes, that is absolutely racist, and also a continuation of brothers and sisters voting against their own interests, which will continue to benefit the only group that wins everytime kindness is rejected at the ballot box - namely, billionaires and corporations.

[bots]

people vote for what floats their boat on the day of the voting. No reason is necessary, or it could be they like the sound of someones name, or the candidate appears at the top of the ballot. Everything is valid and doesnt need to make sense to anyone else

[Oliver_W]

Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper

The tl;dr is basically "we have eyewitness reports of people being followed into the voting booths, but can't prove it beyond that due to lack of CCTV."

AND "even if we could, the number witnessed was too small to make a difference, even if we did strike off their votes."

[The Slim Reaper]

Originally Posted by Oliver_W

The tl;dr is basically "we have eyewitness reports of people being followed into the voting booths, but can't prove it beyond that due to lack of CCTV."

AND "even if we could, the number witnessed was too small to make a difference, even if we did strike off their votes."

Shouldn't be using quotation marks for fantasy short stories, as it's completely disingenuous. It was dismissed, citing a lack of evidence, including following up with the people who made the complaint.

Not sure some people will accept any response other than "it was the muslims wot dunnit," but go off, king.

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper

There is/was absolutely nothing in the green party campaign that wasn't based on benefitting the whole country. Maybe you didn't like that they were proud to support the trans and ethnic minority communities?

The historic voting problem this country has, is that voters continually vote against their own interests, based on either aspiration or hatred.


There is nothing racist about honkys voting for their own interests, however, if the one issue you're talking about is the sole reform policy of kicking out the darkies, then yes, that's racist.

Youtube video

She even talks to the same white working classes she belongs to, from around one minute in.

So yes, if you believe voting for racism, would make you a racist (using you in general, not specific), then yes, that is absolutely racist, and also a continuation of brothers and sisters voting against their own interests, which will continue to benefit the only group that wins everytime kindness is rejected at the ballot box - namely, billionaires and corporations.

Mate I spoiled my vote in the last election and will be doing the same in the next unless there is some miracle turnaround, but go off King

I dont have a problem with trans per se, but there are alot of suspicious trans using it for their own ends and really impinging on womens rights but as a man I guess you really dont get that

I know you love to paint me as a racist and a transphobe and probably a homophobe and every other phobia, the fun part is I could care less, you do you which is basically profiling people who dont align with your views, how progressive

[Livia]

The Far Left, because, let's face it, that's what the Greens are now, won't tolerate any kind of racism. Except anti-Semitism. They're very much in favour of it, in fact. Zack Polanski has been disowned by his own (Jewish) family over anti-Semitism in his party. Let them say what they want, let's all see who they are really...


Shocking antisemitic comments have surfaced in leaked WhatsApp messages from a pro-Palestine faction inside the Green Party, prompting fresh accusations of deep-rooted hatred within the party. Activists in the group Greens for Palestine described Jewish people as “an abomination to this planet” and accused them of murdering, bombing and starving children.

One participant insisted on openly identifying protesters in Golders Green as Jews rather than Zionists, declaring: “They were Jews and we shouldn’t be afraid to say it. They were Jewish supremacists.” The exchange escalated with the claim: “Enough of being scared of hurting their feelings while they murder, bomb and starve children.”

Another member added: “They are an abomination to this planet,” while a further comment called for activists to “take back the narrative and the true meaning of the terms, particularly zionism and semite.”

Separately, one activist linked to the group suggested the arson attack on four Hatzolah ambulances belonging to a Jewish charity in Golders Green was a “false flag” operation, potentially staged by Jewish people themselves.

The individual shared news coverage of the incident and noted: “I saw somebody recently say that false flags were coming.”

https://www.express.co.uk/news/polit...ws-abomination
Daily Express, but the same article appears in a range of news sources.

[Parmy]

The greens and the far left that they have incorporated under the banner of hope not hate are the vilest of people, massive hate filled hypocrites of anyth7ng not aligned with their thinking. Your either one of them, or you're a Nazi, racist, fascist or some other word half of them have no idea of the true meaning. Had they, they would realise they should be shouting at themselves.

To many old drippy 1990s hippies brains riddled with the effects of to much ecstasy.

[The Slim Reaper]

Originally Posted by Cherie

Mate I spoiled my vote in the last election and will be doing the same in the next unless there is some miracle turnaround, but go off King

I dont have a problem with trans per se, but there are alot of suspicious trans using it for their own ends and really impinging on womens rights but as a man I guess you really dont get that

I know you love to paint me as a racist and a transphobe and probably a homophobe and every other phobia, the fun part is I could care less, you do you which is basically profiling people who dont align with your views, how progressive

I think you misunderstand quite a bit of my post, here.

I didn't say you were a reform voter.

Its wholly acceptable if you are an ethnic minority to vote for issues that affect you, if you are not and vote for issues that affect you, you are deemed a racist...that is how it is now I am afraid.

This very clearly uses a racist trope about PoC having special privilege, or get away with things that white people would never allowed to, which is just plainly false, and also not the only time you've ever used that same trope.

My post merely pointed out, that the greens ran a campaign to appeal to all sectors of the local community. Labours own post election report, showed that greens beat them with white working class voters.
:
https://www.theguardian.com/politics...enton-analysis

So the only implication here, is that issues that affect honkys are very different to issues that affect non-whites, and that only leaves one area being hinted at.

I don't think you're a full, across the board, racist. I think you have some blind spots, but racism is still racism, and I'm not on the forum posting your posts for you, you write them yourself. I don't really post on this forum at all these days. I'll post the occasional post in threads about the greens moving forward, and maybe, even less frequently in one of the war threads, so the only reason I replied, was because it was in this thread.

As for trans people, even writing what you posted in this thread is along the same hints and innuendo trope, but that's by the by - you do you.

However, one thing that I stated years ago, and have been consistent about, is that the same far right billionaire class that bombarded that debate into the public sphere, will come for women, and it's now starting to happen a little more openly.

The trad wife movement is just percolating nicely in the US, women's rights continue to be eroded, and this is the next phase. The incoming AI wave, will decimate work opportunities, so with the reduction of available jobs, and them being geared more towards labour, rather than offices, who do you think will get the majority of those jobs, as one job per household becomes the norm, we know which sex will be chained to the kitchen like it's 1950 all over again.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics...0said%20policy

Reform’s Danny Kruger criticises UK’s ‘totally unregulated sexual economy’
This article is more than 1 month old
Former Conservative laments divorce changes and says Reform UK will pursue policies to boost birthrate

In a party, that is most likely to win the next GE, this is what they feel comfortable talking about openly. Richard Tice has said he wants to end the sexual revolution, which introduced birth control, and the ability for women to finally chose how they wanted to live their lives.

Talk about actually being hoisted by your own petard...

[Parmy]

A white bloke callling white people, honkys..like he's some radical 1970s black fella..very edgy.



Pop on some blackface, it would look better.

[The Slim Reaper]

Originally Posted by Livia

The Far Left, because, let's face it, that's what the Greens are now, won't tolerate any kind of racism. Except anti-Semitism. They're very much in favour of it, in fact. Zack Polanski has been disowned by how own (Jewish) family over anti-Semitism in his party. Let them say what they want, let's all see who they are really...


Shocking antisemitic comments have surfaced in leaked WhatsApp messages from a pro-Palestine faction inside the Green Party, prompting fresh accusations of deep-rooted hatred within the party. Activists in the group Greens for Palestine described Jewish people as “an abomination to this planet” and accused them of murdering, bombing and starving children.

One participant insisted on openly identifying protesters in Golders Green as Jews rather than Zionists, declaring: “They were Jews and we shouldn’t be afraid to say it. They were Jewish supremacists.” The exchange escalated with the claim: “Enough of being scared of hurting their feelings while they murder, bomb and starve children.”

Another member added: “They are an abomination to this planet,” while a further comment called for activists to “take back the narrative and the true meaning of the terms, particularly zionism and semite.”

Separately, one activist linked to the group suggested the arson attack on four Hatzolah ambulances belonging to a Jewish charity in Golders Green was a “false flag” operation, potentially staged by Jewish people themselves.

The individual shared news coverage of the incident and noted: “I saw somebody recently say that false flags were coming.”

https://www.express.co.uk/news/polit...ws-abomination
Daily Express, but the same article appears in a range of news sources.

Zack Polanski's family refused to talk to that journo, so she went to the far reaches of family members that he had no contact with. The "right kind of Jew" stereotype is AS, according to IHRA.

Those messages are absolutely heinous, inexcusable, and clearly anti Semitic

Are you going to suggest you haven't written way worse on this very forum about other races/religions? Over years and years and years? That's a bold strategy. let's see how it plays out...

[The Slim Reaper]

Originally Posted by Parmy

A white bloke callling white people, honkys..like he's some radical 1970s black fella..very edgy.



Pop on some blackface, it would look better.

Anything to say about the content of the post, or just a specific word I use to make myself feel big and clever every once in a while?

[Parmy]

Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper

Anything to say about the content of the post, or just a specific word I use to make myself feel big and clever every once in a while?

I stopped reading when I seeen it...the cringe factor was off the scale.



But I will say ive never seeen a black person arrrested for using racist language when they say the N word. So they do get away with some things the white people dont.

[The Slim Reaper]

Originally Posted by Parmy

I stopped reading when I seeen it...the cringe factor was off the scale.



But I will say ive never seeen a black person arrrested for using racist language when they say the N word. So they do get away with some things the white people dont.

Why would it be racist for a black person to use the n-word?

[Livia]

I haven't faced anti-Semitism from many people on this forum, not real, overt anti-Semitism. Funny then, when one of those who have made some pretty outrageous statements to me pops up and tries to give the impression they're all inclusive and non-racist while pointing at perceived at faults in others.

[Parmy]

Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper

Why would it be racist for a black person to use the n-word?

Its the word thats racist. And falls under racist language. So, by law it should cover all of the population.

[The Slim Reaper]

Originally Posted by Parmy

Its the word thats racist. And falls under racist language. So, by law it should cover all of the population.

I don't think you believe this; your heart just isn't in it.

I think you just wanted to try and raise any issue with my post, and that was the best you could muster.

[Parmy]

For example...


If I was walking along a high street muttering the N word to myself and a police officer overheard it, I would be arrested.. If a black person of the same age height and build as myself did the same and was overheard by a police officer, they would not be arrested. Yet both of us are equal citizens in the UK. Therefore the law of using racist language should apply to everyone, equally.

[Parmy]

Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper

I don't think you believe this; your heart just isn't in it.

I think you just wanted to try and raise any issue with my post, and that was the best you could muster.

I let it ride the other day when you used it to be edgy.. Twice is enough and it needs challenged now.

[Parmy]

But my point is, it was said that black people do not receive preferential treatment, I have showed they do.

So you should retract your statement.

[The Slim Reaper]

Originally Posted by Livia

I haven't faced anti-Semitism from many people on this forum, not real, overt anti-Semitism. Funny then, when one of those who have made some pretty outrageous statements to me pops up and tries to give the impression they're all inclusive and non-racist while pointing at perceived at faults in others.

Post all the things you think I've said hat are not just racist, but overtly anti Semitic.

You keep hinting at this, and never back anything up. I can post specific examples of folks on here saying racist things. I've pointed out racist opinions I've had in the past, and I don't think I'm beyond or incapable of having blind spots to this day, so if you want to highlight all my racism go for it, in fact I beg you to post it. Show everyone what a racist I am.

We can go post for post if you like?

You post something I've written, then I'll address it, and then I can post something you've written, and then you can address it? Deal? Could be illuminating and an opportunity for growth on both of our parts?

[The Slim Reaper]

Originally Posted by Parmy

But my point is, it was said that black people do not receive preferential treatment, I have showed they do.

So you should retract your statement.

No, you haven't showed anything. You are just declaring that you did.

I used the word honky, it's not a statement that I can retract. Ask me to use a different word if you like, and I have the option to either do so, or keep the original word.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Greens’ ‘Zionism is racism’ vote descends into chaos

Members of Zack Polanski’s (aka David Paulson) party fail to make decision on
proposal classifying Jewish self-determination



Voting on the controversial “Zionism is Racism” motion has been delayed after
the Green Party spring conference descended into chaos.

Technical failures, a row over misgendering, and six votes of no confidence in
the party officials chairing the online event caused significant delays to the
conference, leaving dozens of motions undebated and not subject to voting.

It also called for the abolition of the state of Israel

The Greens are surging in popularity at present at a time when anti-Semitism
in Britain on the rise. Earlier this month, four charity-owned ambulances
were set on fire in north London in a suspected anti-Semitic attack.

Earlier in the week, The Telegraph revealed that party activists had
described Jewish people as “an abomination to this planet”

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics...tion-polanski/

[Parmy]

Skip to 25 minutes to see 2 neighbours collide. 1 is protesting outside a reform party meeting attended by Nigel farage. She spot a her neighbour going into the event and has a face to face with him.

An interesting and telling conversation between two "former" friends.


25 minutes in. Conversation lasts about 4

https://youtu.be/y3aosms5jYA?si=RRz9CbeArYTZ0E9X

[Parmy]

Originally Posted by Parmy

The greens and the far left that they have incorporated under the banner of hope not hate are the vilest of people, massive hate filled hypocrites of anyth7ng not aligned with their thinking. Your either one of them, or you're a Nazi, racist, fascist or some other word half of them have no idea of the true meaning. Had they, they would realise they should be shouting at themselves.

To many old drippy 1990s hippies brains riddled with the effects of to much ecstasy.

https://www.facebook.com/share/r/1DjkpCBKyN/