[Dan_]

When you've got a china chin you don't want to be on the end of one of Froch's uppercuts.Froch is starting to move up the ladder now and will be in world title fights.

[GiRTh]

Froch uppercut is probably his best punch. Is Froch going to continue at Super-middle? I'd like to see him fighting some top American with his hands down and getting a good whoopin'.

[Dan_]

Originally posted by GiRTh
Froch uppercut is probably his best punch. Is Froch going to continue at Super-middle? I'd like to see him fighting some top American with his hands down and getting a good whoopin'.

Yep, he's looking to take over the super-middleweight division now that Calzaghe's moved up, although he still keeps on calling out Joe.

He's gonna pay the price for keeping his hands down one of these days unless he's got a granite chin.There's not really any top American's at super-middle at the moment.Only ones in the top 20 are Lacy and Allan Green.Green's got potential as he's a big puncher but his chin isn't too good and he's having problems outside the ring.There are however a few young American's who are moving up the ranks but are a bit too young yet to be getting world title shots.

The major players at super middlweight are mainly Europeans and South Americans.

[GiRTh]

It's one of those young up and comers that I'd like to see Froch fight. Sometimes young hungry fighters can pull off an upset.

[Dan_]

Originally posted by GiRTh
It's one of those young up and comers that I'd like to see Froch fight. Sometimes young hungry fighters can pull off an upset.

I suppose promoters are hesitant to put their young prospects in such a big risk fight.It might end up damaging them by moving too early.

I think with Calzaghe vacating 3 world titles at super-middle, there's going to be a few taking a swerve from facing Froch for one of them.

[GiRTh]

You could be right but so many great fighters have won their title by taking a risk early in their careers. I'd like to see Froch fight a young quality fighter who will give him a real test.

[Dan_]

To be honest Froch's been pissing around too long with European title level fighters.He's 30 now, so it's about time he stepped up.

[GiRTh]

Absolutely. He should have had a shot by now and I'd like it to be against sone young up and coming American.

[Dan_]

Fight of the year tonight then.The two keyboard warriors Andrew 'Kid Thunder' Hartley vs Charlie Zelenoff.Cannot believe Charlie's actually got the guts to turn up for this one.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I4bFpBKjECg

Couple of other less important fights this weekend and all.Oscar De La Hoya takes on the contenders Steve Forbes.It's just a tune up for Oscar as he prepares to take on Mayweather once again in september.

Firat Arslan defends his cruiserweight world title against Darnell Wilson.I'm not sure how Wilson got this shot seeing as he lost his last fight to B.J. Flores but he might be able to spring the upset due to his huge punch power.

[Dan_]

Zelenoff is meant to have got DQ'd in the first round after he spat his mouthpiece out a couple times.

Arslan and De La Hoya won their fights with ease, both Unaminous decisions.

[Dan_]

You guys have got to see this.Charlie 'Vicious' Zelenoff vs Andrew 'Kid Thunder' Hartley.

Youtube video

Not so tough now are you Zedoff?

[Dan_]

Froch's opponent has been changed two times since my last post.Berrio's gone AWOL despite having agreed to the fight.Then American Rubin Williams was brought in, that was an okay fight as Williams is a bit of a gatekeeper in the division but now he's pulled out.Froch is now fighting the undefeated Pole Albert Rybacki, he's 37 years old but didn't even turn pro until he was 30 and has only had 3 fights in the past four years.

Another blow to the bill was the withdrawl of John Fewkes from his anticipated clash with fellow undefeated Brit, John Murray.Some were tipping this to be the best fight of the night but Fewkes has got food poisioning.No confirmation on a replacement opponent for Murray.

It's been such bad luck for promoter Mick Hennesey.This was his first event on ITV1 with a chance to showcase his top fighters in really competitive fights but now the only real fight of interest is Junior Witter vs Tim Bradley for the WBC Light-Welterweight title.Even that was different fight than the first one planned after Bernard Hopkins nephew,Demetrius decided against challenging for the title.

[GiRTh]

Originally posted by Dan_
Froch's opponent has been changed two times since my last post.Berrio's gone AWOL despite having agreed to the fight.Then American Rubin Williams was brought in, that was an okay fight as Williams is a bit of a gatekeeper in the division but now he's pulled out.Froch is now fighting the undefeated Pole Albert Rybacki, he's 37 years old but didn't even turn pro until he was 30 and has only had 3 fights in the past four years.

Jeez. They're feeding him bums.

[Dan_]

Originally posted by GiRTh

Jeez. They're feeding him bums.

There's not much choice at this late stage.They offered the fight to some other top prospects and nobody wanted to accept.

[GiRTh]

Originally posted by Dan_
There's not much choice at this late stage.They offered the fight to some other top prospects and nobody wanted to accept.

Thats true. Froch can't be relishing the thought of knocking out some nobody. Maybe they should cancel but I suppose the money people wouldn't be happy if they did.

[Dan_]

Originally posted by GiRTh

Thats true. Froch can't be relishing the thought of knocking out some nobody. Maybe they should cancel but I suppose the money people wouldn't be happy if they did.

I bet he must be sick of keep having different opponents, cannot help with preperation.ITV have a timeslot to fill and Witters fight isn't going to be able to cover it, so they cannot cancel Froch and his fans would be pissed off too.

[GiRTh]

Originally posted by Dan_
I bet he must be sick of keep having different opponents, cannot help with preperation.ITV have a timeslot to fill and Witters fight isn't going to be able to cover it, so they cannot cancel Froch and his fans would be p****d off too.

Froch's fan will be meeting in the phone booth round the corner.

[Dan_]

Originally posted by GiRTh

Froch's fan will be meeting in the phone booth round the corner.

he's got quite a decent fanbase to be honest.

[GiRTh]

Originally posted by Dan_Froch's fan will be meeting in the phone booth round the corner.

he's got quite a decent fanbase to be honest. [/quote]Blimey. They can't be boxing fans.

[Dan_]

Carl Froch just dispatched of Rybacki with all apparent ease.Ref stopped the fight into the 4th round after the Pole was getting smacked all around the ring.Froch just wanted to get the job done and was perhaps a little eager to finish it and got caught with a couple of unnecessary shots but overall he looked impressive with the uppercuts really rocking Rybacki.

Very disapointed in Junior Witter tonight as he lost his world title on a split decision to young American, Timothey Bradley.Witter just failed to get going and neglected his jab throughout the whole fight and just looked to fight on the back foot hoping to catch Bradley with the left hands.Bradley was strong as an ox though and just kept coming forward with sheer determination and managed to keep catching Witter with the right hand and even managed to put him down in the 6th round.Witter came back from the knockdown pretty well and landed a few heavy right hands in the latter rounds but they were few and far between, plus they didn't really have enough effect on Bradley for him to be able to follow things up.

I scored the fight 115-112 in favour of Bradley who just seemed to be that step quicker and hungrier to win the title.A total disaster for Witter who's dream of fighting Ricky Hatton has gone now.All he can do is try and get a rematch against Bradley and go from there, otherwise his career's pretty much over in terms of major fights.

One last note on the Italian judge who scored the fight 3 rounds in Witter's favour, what on earth fight were you watching pal?

John Murray supposedly looked pretty poor on the undercard against Youseff Al Hamadi, a guy who's tough but very limited.Murray's not going anywhere fast and if he finally does fight Fewkes then he might come unstuck.

[GiRTh]

I watched the fights too. This was the first time I'd ever seen Witter fight and, I have to say, I was far from impressed. I never like watching Brendon Ingle fighters. From Naz to Johnny Nelson to Herol Graham and now Witter. I've never understood why Ingle insists that his fighter switch hit. It puts too much into the fighter mind and if the fighter is anything less than a top athlete he'll stand no chance of becoming even a half decent fighter.

Witter seems to have great reflexes, good punching accuracy but the constant stance changing frustrates me just as much as it must frustrate their opponents. On the other hand I was very impressed with Bradley. His defence was good and he kept throwing that right hand all night. Sometimes he missed but when he hit I think he hurt Witter.

What do you see Witter doing now? Do you think Hatton will be interested in him now?

Froch did well too. I forgot the fight was taking place in my hometown and was quite impressed by the amount of support Froch was getting. Froch now needs to step up. There is talk of a fight with Kessler. That would be just the kind of fight Froch needs to finally get himself onto the world stage.

[Dan_]

Originally posted by GiRTh
I watched the fights too. This was the first time I'd ever seen Witter fight and, I have to say, I was far from impressed. I never like watching Brendon Ingle fighters. From Naz to Johnny Nelson to Herol Graham and now Witter. I've never understood why Ingle insists that his fighter switch hit. It puts too much into the fighter mind and if the fighter is anything less than a top athlete he'll stand no chance of becoming even a half decent fighter.

Witter seems to have great reflexes, good punching accuracy but the constant stance changing frustrates me just as much as it must frustrate their opponents. On the other hand I was very impressed with Bradley. His defence was good and he kept throwing that right hand all night. Sometimes he missed but when he hit I think he hurt Witter.

What do you see Witter doing now? Do you think Hatton will be interested in him now?

Froch did well too. I forgot the fight was taking place in my hometown and was quite impressed by the amount of support Froch was getting. Froch now needs to step up. There is talk of a fight with Kessler. That would be just the kind of fight Froch needs to finally get himself onto the world stage.

The trouble is unless the opponent is confused by that style it doesn't work all that well.It requires a great amount of reflexes and with Witter getting older, I'm not so sure he can keep up with that style.He got caught and put down because he was too busy switch hitting and left his guard low and his chin hanging up.To me Ingle fighters rely too much of punch power too and those wild swings from strange angles take so much energy out of the fighters and you cannot carry on that way.

I knew very little of Bradley beforehand so was kinda wary of the threat he posed but he was even better than what I'd heard.Some supposed experts said his defence wasn't any good but to me that was one of his main strengths.He's a good little compact boxer who seems to do everything well.I wouldn't be surprised to see him go on to be champion for a while yet.The commentators seemed unsure as to whether or Bradley was a big puncher or not, think it was evident that overhand right is a danger shot.

I thought the work done by the Ingle corner inbetween rounds was very poor, their man was getting beaten and they barely told him to do anything.

Witter's talking about going back down the European title route.He's the mandatory challenger for that and is likely to face the winner of Branco vs Lynes.He already beat Lynes a few years ago.I'm not so sure working your way back up the rankings with the Euro title is the best way to go to be honest.He's getting on in age now and he should be seeking a rematch with Bradley as soon as possible.He needs to be more active as well, that was his first fight since September and to be able to carry out his style you need to be bang on all the time.

As for a fight with Hatton.I think that's gone out the window well and truly now.For whatever reason,Hatton's always avoided Junior and came out with some pretty pathetic excuses.I don't think he will want to fight him now as it's still a risk with a lower reward now.

Froch does seem to be building quite a good fanbase now.He will have a world title shot later in the year, it's just a matter of who he will face now.I cannot see it being Calzaghe or Kessler, as Joe's obviously moved up and Kessler's going for another title.It could well be the winner of Pascal vs Zuniga.

[GiRTh]

You're right. Switch hitting works when the fighter is confusing his opponent. Bradley had in his mind that he was going to jab then throw the big right and he did that all night. So it didn’t matter what stance Witter was adopting Bradley was going to attack him in more of less the same way. I was also impressed with Bradley conditioning. He looked like he could box 20 rounds.

I don’t know why Hatton would duck Witter from what I saw Hatton could cause Witter some serious problems. Do bear in mind that this was the first time I'd seen Witter fight.

Froch should probably have a crack at America. I thin they'd like him out there. If he can make a name for himself without the Calzaghe or Kessler fight then he might get a decent shot at a title.

[Dan_]

Bradley's gameplan kinda negated the threat of Witter.Full credit to the guy, he said him and his team had been watching Junior for years in the event of him fighting him and they had a set tactics.I think Witter made it easier for him by adopting the southpaw stance.Bradley's about one of the best conditioned fighters I've seen in a while.

I think Hatton looks a bit daft ducking him to be honest.He keeps saying he doesn't want to give Junior a payday after he insulted him, kinda think it runs deeper than that.

Froch is a pretty exciting fighter, people want knockouts and he's certainly got the power to do that.Some are saying Froch is a bit slow.I'd hardly say he was a slouch and his accuracy makes up for it anyway.

[GiRTh]

Froch is a bit slow but, as I hadn't seen him fight for ages, I forgot how good his combinations were. He should have had a shot by now. HE's wasting time.