[A55A551N]

Originally posted by Aint_mad_atcha
Oh yeah and before anyone comes in here and tell me, its a normal drop of from year to year, BB9 first monday was:

Monday 9th June
22.00- Big Brother: 3.3m

And I remember people being dissappointed then.

Thats more than a 40% dropoff, so go ahead apologists, explain away, how the LF has no impact whatsoever.

They'll just claim people are getting tired of the shows concept - Which still wont make up for a loss of almost half between first Mondays.

[Billy]

Ouch!
Ahwell, lets just enjoy the series for what it is, probably the last one.

[JohnnyBB]

but were have they all gone ?

[Tom]

Originally posted by JohnnyBB
but were have they all gone ?

The public are much more fickle than we are

[JohnnyBB]

come on in reality you dont just lose 40% in fin air!

[Stentionhouse]

Originally posted by Tom
Jesus, thats just inexcusable now ..... for the first time ever Tom shall eat his words

LIVE FEED AFFECTS RATINGS

There I said it

Blimey.

[Tom]

Originally posted by JohnnyBB
come on in reality you dont just lose 40% in fin air!

Evidently, you do lose 40% of viewers, and its a lot more than that.

Unlike us, the public can take or leave shows once they've seen the first day or so. We all get quite attached to BB, hence we're here but in reality the average viewer couldn't give a ****** and if there is something better on or something better or more interesting to do (even if its just Facebook) then they're going to do that.

Clearly something is wrong with BB10. If I've worked it out right they've lost 62% of their audience so far. we're not even a week in and theres still another 13 and a half weeks to go. So its clear live feed does have an impact on it, I'm not even going to bother defending it anymore. I thought maybe CBB was just because its boring (my glass is always half full which is the real cause for all the arguments ) but BB10 has had the best opening since series 7 I think so its nothing to do with it being boring.

All I'm saying is never under estimate what 10,000-100,000 people watch. They were right all along and its Channel 4's fault they don't have 3m viewers anymore. Its sad to think that just 3 years ago this was the most talked about show on TV and the highlights shows were more watched than this years launch.

E4 only next year methinks.

['Conor]

i dont realy care about ratings as long as i think the show is good and 4 me this series is brilliant last nights episode was hillarious!

[Wildcat!]

Well now we all know how its going. Its up to Ch4 what they want to do. I am not even gonna bother checking the ratings anymore, unless something major happen (a la fight night). I am just gonna watch the show hoping LF comes back, which will make it more enjoyable for me. If not, oh well! BB was good while it lasted.

[Captain.Remy]

Message original : Aint_mad_atcha
Well now we all know how its going. Its up to Ch4 what they want to do. I am not even going to bother checking the ratings anymore, unless something major happen (a la fight night). I am just going to watch the show hoping LF comes back, which will make it more enjoyable for me. If not, oh well! BB was good while it lasted.

I feel the same. I'm not going to bother anymore, it kinda spoils it. If the series is good then I don't care about the ratings. As long as I enjoy it then it's fine.

[Spike]

Last night was the first time I was going to judge the ratings and based on that the series is really flopping which is ashame because last nights highlights were very good and rivaled some of the episodes of the best series
I really don't know what can be done to turn it around, even the live feed coming back wont make a huge difference. Someone needs to come up with a good idea otherwise this series could be averaging in the 1millions

[Tom]

Originally posted by Spike
Last night was the first time I was going to judge the ratings and based on that the series is really flopping which is ashame because last nights highlights were very good and rivaled some of the episodes of the best series
I really don't know what can be done to turn it around, even the live feed coming back wont make a huge difference. Someone needs to come up with a good idea otherwise this series could be averaging in the 1millions

They need a huge twist and need to advertise it well like fake week. And not just some new housemates with a HND variation. Use a mass eviction of some sort, even if they have to fix it for who goes. Or maybe even if they have to, recycle the bedsit when someone like Sophia is up; say its celebrating 10 years of BB or something.

[Spike]

Originally posted by Tom

They need a huge twist and need to advertise it well like fake week. And not just some new housemates with a HND variation. Use a mass eviction of some sort, even if they have to fix it for who goes. Or maybe even if they have to, recycle the bedsit when someone like Sophia is up; say its celebrating 10 years of BB or something.

Yeah I agree, some big twist need to be done, I like the idea of the bedsit celebrating 10years of Big Brother
If something big is to happen it needs to be done very soon so it can still grab potential viewers because if its left too long then viewers wont want to tune in on week 3 or 4.

[A55A551N]

Originally posted by Spike
even the live feed coming back wont make a huge difference.

I agree that it might not make a "huge" difference but it's pretty evident that the reason the viewing figures have dropped so low this series isn't just because of 'tired storytyping by Endemol' because they've been spot on the ball this series. It's because of CH4 and the Live Feed

I don't care what anybody says sorry (I mean in the sense of calling me out on this, not for their opinion. I always respect that).

The Live Feed is what gives BB that ultimate push in the 'outside mainstream' world where people who wouldn't normally rush around to watch it check the paper on the train/bus home or see headlines on a website and think "Hmm I might tune into that tonight then and give it a go"

There has been NONE of that this year BECAUSE there is no LF, because no-one like us lot are discussing things those not usually in the know (or obssessive about BB lol) are discussing... Newspapers have barely anything to talk about like they have previous years either!

I know I'm flogging a dead horse here and reiterating what others have said, but that's because it's true...

[A55A551N]

Oops meant to edit not quote

[Captain.Remy]

I think we can all expect BB11 being on E4 only because the ratings are closer with the E4 ones than the C4 ones.

[A55A551N]

Originally posted by Captain.Remy
I think we can all expect BB11 being on E4 only because the ratings are closer with the E4 ones than the C4 ones.

But isn't that technically still run by C4? So, wouldn't they technically still get the same rating figures?

[Captain.Remy]

Message original : A55A551N

But isn't that technically still run by C4? So, wouldn't they technically still get the same rating figures?

Yes they will, but it won't be considered as a flop if it's on E4 as the ratings don't fit with C4 anymore.

[A55A551N]

Originally posted by Captain.Remy

Yes they will, but it won't be considered as a flop if it's on E4 as the ratings don't fit with C4 anymore.

Ahh understood!

[Tom]

Originally posted by A55A551N

But isn't that technically still run by C4? So, wouldn't they technically still get the same rating figures?

Say with no live feed it hits a steady level of about 1.5m. That is now the hardcore fan base who will watch no matter what. They love the show that much most of them will follow the show onto another channel. By next summer we'll be half way through digital switch over so everyone should have E4. A normal BB on E4 would probably rate similarly to Hijack and if it got 1m that would be seem as a big success.

Maybe what BB needs is to move to a digital channel so it can become a cult show out of the media spot light and without the comparisons to ratings of previous years.

I think its quite sad we're now discussing if it can break 2m, when even last year at the lowest rated ever it was rare for it not to break 3m on a weekday. It also feels that all the work restoring the BB brand during 2008 (listening to fans) was all for nothing.

Originally posted by Captain.Remy

Yes they will, but it won't be considered as a flop if it's on E4 as the ratings don't fit with C4 anymore.

They do still fit, its roughly in line with the rest of Channel 4's middle rating shows.

[A55A551N]

Thanks Tom and agreed on a lot of that

[the_last_remaining_fan]

Hello everyone - new here and wanted to give my take on the story of the hour, which is Big Brother's ever dropping ratings.

My take is that it's a mixture of things. People have probably seen enough by now, we can all see a bit of previous housemates in the current ones. (Well, i can anyway.)

Also, it seems to me that this year, for some unknown reason they have gone out their way to make the show a bit bizarre, what on earth is with this "Dogface" stuff...it's hardly accessible viewing is it...

Nevertheless, as a big fan, i do intend to keep watching until the death knell sounds......

[cleaner67]

Originally posted by JohnnyBB
but were have they all gone ?

Down the pub i expect

they should be happy
they getting past millions

some shows dont get past

million is alot

[Billy]

Originally posted by Tom

Say with no live feed it hits a steady level of about 1.5m. That is now the hardcore fan base who will watch no matter what. They love the show that much most of them will follow the show onto another channel. By next summer we'll be half way through digital switch over so everyone should have E4. A normal BB on E4 would probably rate similarly to Hijack and if it got 1m that would be seem as a big success.

Maybe what BB needs is to move to a digital channel so it can become a cult show out of the media spot light and without the comparisons to ratings of previous years.

I think its quite sad we're now discussing if it can break 2m, when even last year at the lowest rated ever it was rare for it not to break 3m on a weekday. It also feels that all the work restoring the BB brand during 2008 (which was quite successful, it steadied the audience and gained a bit of respect back) was all for nothing.

Tbf though 1.9million viewers is still a hit, by Channel4s standards. I mean no, it's not getting the 6/7 million it has done but it's still a success for Channel 4. If it continues like this, or at least hits over 2mill (which it may) I think it'll continue on C4, obviously a lot cheaper and stuff, and probably cutting BBLB and BBBM. The series can be seen as a failure by Big Brothers standards (again bearing in mind it is only Day what 5?), but by Channel 4s standards, I wouldn't say it's in immediate danger.