[setanta]

Originally posted by mrsme

you know what? I don't feel I have been venomous. Everything that has been said on here that I have read tonight, is out there in the public domain. In other words, SHE has said/done it on national TV. SHE is giving us this ammunition. how silly is she?

i wasn't speaking about you mrsme; just in general about some of the behaviour on the forum. with respect to you- yes, i would agree with the majority of what you said about the woman.... she's a particularly cunning creature who has pulled the wool over so many in here as well as in the house. to say she is a nice caring girl honestly seems like insanity to me

[preciousgal]

so everything that we read in the papers is right then? well whoever is without sin should cast the first stone, i am not saying that Noirin is perfect at all and i do watch big brother and i do have moments when i think no dont say that etc. However she is a young impressionable woman who is still lerning about life and is not perfect so for people to slate her as bad as they do i believe is unfair.

[dennissabre]

Originally posted by mrsme

I PERSONALLY have not called noirin a slut. If you would like to email me with your address, I will definatly send you the meaning of the word, on a postcard, inside a dictionary, just so you don't have to embarass yourself further.

Let's get back to topic please?

As you do not seem to know the definition of the word slut here it is.....


Slut.... a Man or Woman who is sexually promiscuous.


So where is the proof that Noirin is a slut or any other offensive term that has been used to describe what she has been doing in the house?

None of your posts relate to my OP in any way and if anything it is you who deliberately went off post in a crude attempt to slate Noirin and other members on here.

[mrsme]

Originally posted by tintedshadow
no matter your view on noirin,she is a woman of which has done nothing more than enjoy herself and be friendly with people in the house she considers friends,if she was brushing the hair of sophie and massaging them would it be considered ethically wrong in your mind then?
IF SOPHIE HAD DECLARED HER LOVE TO HER THEN YES, IT'S MISLEADING SIGNALS - CALL ME OLD FASHIONED!!!!

fact is she is not close to any females in that house (was with lisa but that has since deteriorated) now if she chooses to hang with guys that is her perogative,not for you or me to judge.. so they are infatuated with her. i must reiterate she has on many occasion told marcus they are nothing more than friends and nothing more can happen between them,what more can be done while all the time she does not want to embaress him infront of the nation and not create an atmosphere in the house where she cant escape..
SHE DOESN'T WANT TO CREATE AN ATMOSPHERE WITH MARCUS, AND YET SHE IS MORE THAN HAPPY TO ALIENATE THE REST OF THE HOUSE? HMMMM. GO FIGURE

may i also point out,she has been put in there with strangers,living twenty four hours a day under a roof with strangers can be intense and to say that her actions are making her look cheap is simply not true.

a young lady enjoying herself is not for you or anyone else to judge,so please...you have your right to think what you do,but name calling surely is not neccesary for a grown lady as i find that cheap for another woman to label one another as you have done..

MY OPINION is that YES, her actions in the house ARE making her look cheap. SHE is the one who put herself on national tv, looking for fame, and open to judgement. SHE put herself there. She has done this before don't forget. She know's all about reality TV. She is not the innocent little church girl you all make her out to be. OPEN YOUR EYES for crying out loud!!!!! As for you thinking I'm cheap, you know what, I care very little what you think of me. Its words on a screen honey, words on a screen.

[tintedshadow]

i think i understand her point...mrsme is saying she finds noirin's behavior in general much like that of a slut.. in terms of hanging coat hangers off her nipples i think she see's this as obscene when noirin is simply looking to enjoy herself and should not be judged on such antics.. she has not once gone topless while angel has been seen naked on many occasion,yet we dont consider her a slut.. perhaps because noirin is a stunner?

i am unsure but i dont see noirin as a slut one bit..infact angel has snogged both charlie and fredstar so in actual fact angel has had more "Action" then noirin.. perspective is all that is needed to conclude this debate

[mrsme]

Originally posted by preciousgal
so everything that we read in the papers is right then? well whoever is without sin should cast the first stone, i am not saying that Noirin is perfect at all and i do watch big brother and i do have moments when i think no dont say that etc. However she is a young impressionable woman who is still lerning about life and is not perfect so for people to slate her as bad as they do i believe is unfair.

we all have the right to our opinions. but i do not base my opinions on the newspapers or magazines. i dont actually read the newspapers. my opinions of noirin have been based on what i have seen of her behaviour on national tv. she has put herself there. this is not bb1 where no one knows what to expect. she knows what she is doing.

[mrsme]

i have never said she was sexually promiscuous - where have i said that? I HAVE said she is a tease, I stand by that.

Slut actually means, a slovenly woman, with few or no morals.

I dont know where your definition comes from. where have i slated individual members?
Oh yes, of course, I am JEALOUS of noirin cos she is far prettier and far superior to me. how sad.

i am juding the woman on her performance on the show. nothing more, nothing less.
as for deliberately going off topic to annoy you? get a grip. i am talking about noirin and her slovenly ways. end of.

[preciousgal]

posted on 23-7-2009 at 12:54 AM



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Originally posted by mrsme
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Originally posted by tintedshadow
[whether your posts are intending to antogonise or not i shall not be taking the bait,for someone preaching about self respect i would expect better to be fair

the point is this daughter of yours,must have admirers right?now if she has manners my guess is she would let them down gently right?so if these guys persisted even after your daughter trying her hardest to not lead them on then others may call her much the same..which is why i disagree with anyone berating noirin for doing just that (to be fair i have enough manners to not refer to anyone as a slut so hmm who should pity who i wonder)

I am not looking to annoy, I am merely stating the facts as I see them. This "woman" is not behaving as a REAL lady should. She is, in my opinion making herself look very cheap.
As for not wanting to lead anyone on, and letting them down gently, oh please. don't make me laugh.
not leading anyone on would be "sorry marcus, i am not interested in you romantically - end of" not "sorry marcus, i am not interested in you romantically. Here, let me brush your hair and give you a massage? "
I am so pleased I have a normal grasp on what reality is.


no matter your view on noirin,she is a woman of which has done nothing more than enjoy herself and be friendly with people in the house she considers friends,if she was brushing the hair of sophie and massaging them would it be considered ethically wrong in your mind then?

fact is she is not close to any females in that house (was with lisa but that has since deteriorated) now if she chooses to hang with guys that is her perogative,not for you or me to judge.. so they are infatuated with her. i must reiterate she has on many occasion told marcus they are nothing more than friends and nothing more can happen between them,what more can be done while all the time she does not want to embaress him infront of the nation and not create an atmosphere in the house where she cant escape..

may i also point out,she has been put in there with strangers,living twenty four hours a day under a roof with strangers can be intense and to say that her actions are making her look cheap is simply not true.

a young lady enjoying herself is not for you or anyone else to judge,so please...you have your right to think what you do,but name calling surely is not neccesary for a grown lady as i find that cheap for another woman to label one another as you have done..




im thinking up a gem while gripping on my pen
watching big brother 10 as i mould these lyrics while noireens stripping you'll notice marcus dribbling again
no matter how low the ratings the shows amazing
although its fair to say i have no time for those who hate sree - TiNtED ShADoW

WrEtCH 32 - WOAH you know that im cold init,
you dont get it with no effort im poetic

The things that i see the things that iv seen
the things i write seem to bring to life the england night scene - StYLaH






good analysis

[tintedshadow]

Originally posted by mrsme

MY OPINION is that YES, her actions in the house ARE making her look cheap. SHE is the one who put herself on national tv, looking for fame, and open to judgement. SHE put herself there. She has done this before don't forget. She know's all about reality TV. She is not the innocent little church girl you all make her out to be. OPEN YOUR EYES for crying out loud!!!!! As for you thinking I'm cheap, you know what, I care very little what you think of me. Its words on a screen honey, words on a screen.

you see me shouting?do i look the least bit offended?simply a discussion of sorts kid,

anyhoo you clearly dont know me because i am like no other,i have on previos threads stated noirin's treatment of certain housemates has been very much unneccesary.. so believe i do not see noirin as whiter than white,but a close minded woman like yourself who chooses to judge a woman based on what?fellatio on marcus?an orgy between tom and others?nope..your reasoning is flawed since there are others who have been seemingly worse in fact..

as we're reffering to noirin right now what has she done that is so criminal?stated that she has a party trick involving her nipples and a coat hanger?or her need to wank off every house mate?because the last time i checked she has done nothing to suggest any of your claims.. but i suppose being judgemental of others is fine in the event that you have led a life of purity right?... didnt think so.. so lets not judge others.. with your dramatic babble

[mrsme]

Originally posted by tintedshadow
i think i understand her point...mrsme is saying she finds noirin's behavior in general much like that of a slut.. in terms of hanging coat hangers off her nipples i think she see's this as obscene when noirin is simply looking to enjoy herself and should not be judged on such antics.. she has not once gone topless while angel has been seen naked on many occasion,yet we dont consider her a slut.. perhaps because noirin is a stunner?

i am unsure but i dont see noirin as a slut one bit..infact angel has snogged both charlie and fredstar so in actual fact angel has had more "Action" then noirin.. perspective is all that is needed to conclude this debate

it's like banging my head against a brick wall.
1. i have never called noirin a slut.
2. i do not think hanging coat hangers from your nipples is classed as "normal" behaviour. Sorry if that makes me too middle class for you.
3. i only recall angel being caught naked by the cameras once - during a bathing incident?
4. as for angel snogging freddie and charlie, oh please. you really are clutching at straws there!

night all. it's been emotional. xx

[dennissabre]

Originally posted by dennissabre

Never has a female housemate been so unjustly treated the way Noirin has when it comes to her involvement with the males in the house.

Never has a female housemate been so unjustly treated the way Noirin has when it comes to her involvement with the males in the house.

If you believed everything in this forum then she has ******ed everyone including the "Crew". What has she actually done apart from flirting? You can believe 'Marcus's bullshit' but the livefeed proved that for what it was...pure fantasy on his part!

No snogging or nipple party piece,or even sunbathing in a bikini and yet that has stopped some of the filthiest comments i have seen written about a woman who in actual fact has 'flirted' a bit like a lot of women do,thank god.

Yes i'm a fan of heres so people will say i'm bias and even i agree she can be a bitch,but i'm just stating the facts that in actual fact she has done nothing to suggest she is the slag/***** people are painting her to be.

Using Marcus,Sree and now will s**g Tom. Give the girl a break. It's not her fault if these men fall for her is it?


Noirin said in her VT that she likes to flirt a bit and that "men find me attractive and women are jealous of me!" It's proved to be the case in the house. which if anything proves she's honest about herself. Using Marcus,Sree and now will shag Tom. Give the girl a break. It's not her fault if these men fall for her is it?

[tintedshadow]

Originally posted by mrsme

it's like banging my head against a brick wall.
1. i have never called noirin a slut.
2. i do not think hanging coat hangers from your nipples is classed as "normal" behaviour. Sorry if that makes me too middle class for you.
3. i only recall angel being caught naked by the cameras once - during a bathing incident?
4. as for angel snogging freddie and charlie, oh please. you really are clutching at straws there!

night all. it's been emotional. xx

what a strange little lady you are..sweet dreams all the same

[mrsme]

Originally posted by tintedshadow


you see me shouting?do i look the least bit offended?simply a discussion of sorts kid,

anyhoo you clearly dont know me because i am like no other,i have on previos threads stated noirin's treatment of certain housemates has been very much unneccesary.. so believe i do not see noirin as whiter than white,but a close minded woman like yourself who chooses to judge a woman based on what?fellatio on marcus?an orgy between tom and others?nope..your reasoning is flawed since there are others who have been seemingly worse in fact..

as we're reffering to noirin right now what has she done that is so criminal?stated that she has a party trick involving her nipples and a coat hanger?or her need to ***k off every house mate?because the last time i checked she has done nothing to suggest any of your claims.. but i suppose being judgemental of others is fine in the event that you have led a life of purity right?... didnt think so.. so lets not judge others.. with your dramatic babble

dramatic babble?
bless you sweetheart. bless you.

[tintedshadow]

ooh my first E-blessing.. lol i fail to see why your attempting to patronise when all this was meant to be was a discussion of a diffrence of opinions..i have no ill will towards you still be on your way

[mrsme]

dennis, the photos you proudly display on your signature do so much good for her reputation.

night sweet cheeks. xx

[mrsme]

[quote]Originally posted by tintedshadow
ooh my first E-blessing.. lol i fail to see why your attempting to patronise when all this was meant to be was a discussion of diffrent opinions..i have no ill will towards you still be on your way [/quote




read your own posts back.
night.

[preciousgal]

i do like Noirin and will continue to do so irrespective of negative comments. I do take offence to people who think that just because i like her makes me immoral or something of that sort. Anyway that is their opinion which they are entitled to and no i do not think she is an angel, just human .

[tintedshadow]

no im fine thanks..and i sincerely apreciate the debate as its interesting to see things from a diffrent perspective..

all the same good night

[dennissabre]

Originally posted by mrsme
dennis, the photos you proudly display on your signature do so much good for her reputation.

night sweet cheeks. xx

You obviously have serious issues with women.



I suggest you have a look at Sophies Playboy pictures with her fanny out before you have a go at Noirin in undies.


And i am not your your sweet cheeks

[mrsme]

precious, one last word. i dont think anyone has said that because you like her, it makes YOU immoral - have they?

I cannot begin to see what people find to like about her, i personally find her particularly odious and you know, somewhat predatory. but that's my opinion.
i am not mother theresa, but then, i haven't put myself forward to be scrutinised like the housemates do every year in their pursuit of fame and fortune. silly little fools.

[mrsme]

I have no issues with Sophie - AT ALL.
Sophie has not done anything wrong in that house. I have no problem with glamour modelling, or nudity. what i do have a problem with is people who try and make out they are next to nuns, and then pose for photos that are clearly not professionally done, but will go nuts when they are all over the papers. do you think noirin will not get her ladygarden out if hugh heffner comes a calling? oh how niave.

[mrsme]

night sweet cheeks.
you may deny it, but you will always be my little sweet cheeks. xxxx

[setanta]

her ladygarden. lol.

[dennissabre]

Originally posted by mrsme
precious, one last word. i dont think anyone has said that because you like her, it makes YOU immoral - have they?

I cannot begin to see what people find to like about her, i personally find her particularly odious and you know, somewhat predatory. but that's my opinion.
i am not mother theresa, but then, i haven't put myself forward to be scrutinised like the housemates do every year in their pursuit of fame and fortune. silly little fools.

What other housemate have you spoken regarding the females dress and behaviour?

If you have bothered to read my OP then would would realise that your comments don't stand up. So i will leave it at that as i think your sole intention has been to stir things up with providing facts like i have.

[preciousgal]

i do understand that people do put themselves out there to be scrutinised...believe me i lived in America where people do worse things just to get on TV and the more outrageous they get, the better rating.
However what i dont agree with is the fact that every Tom, Dick and Harry feel they can say anything about people, no matter how damaging it can be, that they do not know anything about after watching a few edited episodes.