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Old 16-07-2017, 08:16 PM #2051
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One of my female acquaintances has told me she is never watching it ever again as Moffat has destroyed it. The Doctor should be a man according to her.

So it is not just guys opposed to this.
Erm.... this isn't Moffat's decision.
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im laughing at fans choking on their horlicks trying to justify the end of the whole idea in a pc wankfest of doom

one series and the its cancelled for good

Why does it need to be justified?

The only argument I see for the Doctor staying male is that James Bond doesn't change sex. But James Bond isn't an alien who physically transforms into an entirely different person so the comparison is null and void.

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Somebody on DS saying "What next? Female Cyberman?" obviously missing the various times women have been turned into Cybermen including Bill in the final episode which aired, what, two weeks ago?
Someone on my fb wall said 'what next - cyber men with boobs and daleks getting vajazzled'

I said, in regards to the cybermen comment, you should've watched torchwood as there's was a cyberman with boobs.
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The last 50 years the Doctor has had an obsession with the white population of London, England in the modern day.

He spends a lot of time in the 21st century for someone who can go anywhere and anywhen.
True although I'd actually say that's been significantly less in the Smith and Capaldi eras... And probably had more to do with the cost of doing anything else . Sets, prosthetics and CGI can be done convincingly and relatively cheaply these days so there's a lot more future / space stuff.

All of his companions tend to be young and from contemporary England though. That is a bit odd. I mean, even Scottish Amy was only Scottish by accent - living in an English town.
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Someone on my fb wall said 'what next - cyber men with boobs and daleks getting vajazzled'

I said, in regards to the cybermen comment, you should've watched torchwood as there's was a cyberman with boobs.
Omg I remember
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True although I'd actually say that's been significantly less in the Smith and Capaldi eras... And probably had more to do with the cost of doing anything else . Sets, prosthetics and CGI can be done convincingly and relatively cheaply these days so there's a lot more future / space stuff.

All of his companions tend to be young and from contemporary England though. That is a bit odd. I mean, even Scottish Amy was only Scottish by accent - living in an English town.
It's probably the age old - "The viewers need someone they recognise to relate to" but I actually wouldn't mind an alien companion.

Which is why I remember being so intrigued by Jenna Coleman's shock appearance in Asylum of the Daleks. I thought we were finally getting an otherworldly companion.
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What does Suranne Jones playing the TARDIS have to do with it?
No no he's right, Smith Doctor talks about one of his old Time Lord friends (the one that the distress call is supposedly from) and he mentions that this Time Lord has been both male and female in the past.
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No no he's right, Smith Doctor talks about one of his old Time Lord friends (the one that the distress call is supposedly from) and he mentions that this Time Lord has been both male and female in the past.
Good old Matt pointing it out!
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Somebody on DS saying "What next? Female Cyberman?" obviously missing the various times women have been turned into Cybermen including Bill in the final episode which aired, what, two weeks ago?
Cybermen convert everyone so surely 50% of Cybermen are Cyberwomen?

I mean, they don't have reproductive systems anyway so they're technically neither.
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The really *iffy* sticking point of all the criticism is that every single point about The Doctor's gender can be applied to The Doctor's race, too.

"But the Doctor has always been male/white, it just seems like pandering to the PC brigade to change the Doctor from being male/white."

Once you start splitting hairs on the anatomical fixtures of a shape-shifting alien, you can really put yourself into some deep holes.

This isn't to say the Doctor needs to be all things, female/POC/gay/disabled etc., but these shouldn't be reasons for someone NOT to be The Doctor.

What I think is really interested is where they go for 14. Would it be stranger to go back to male, or to remain female?
Well, in Hell Bent, we did see the general, a white male regenerate into a black woman (although she did then mention that the Male General was actually the only male regeneration she had)
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No no he's right, Smith Doctor talks about one of his old Time Lord friends (the one that the distress call is supposedly from) and he mentions that this Time Lord has been both male and female in the past.
Also, when 10 regenerates into 11, he momentarily thinks he is now a woman because of the hair. Hell if you want to go even further back, the charity parody, The Curse of Eternal Death has the Doctor regenerating into Joanna Lumley

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Cybermen convert everyone so surely 50% of Cybermen are Cyberwomen?

I mean, they don't have reproductive systems anyway so they're technically neither.
Well exactly. LT just makes no sense.
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Poor forgotten Cyberwoman Lisa
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Since Class probably wont be coming back, I'd love Quill to appear in the main show.
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Literally just watch Broadchurch. She's an incredible actress
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And the BBC sci-fi's new showrunner Chris Chibnall has revealed that he always wanted to cast a woman as The Doctor.

"After months of lists, conversations, auditions, recalls and a lot of secret-keeping, we're excited to welcome Jodie Whittaker as the Thirteenth Doctor," he said.

"I always knew I wanted the Thirteenth Doctor to be a woman, and we're thrilled to have secured our number one choice.
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One thing I do think is important though, is that she doesn't play the doctor as feminine. I don't think it matters whether The Doctor is male or female, for the character, but a major reason for that is that The Doctor is not masculine. He's not some big gruff blokey bloke... if anything, he's almost "effeminate" (I know this is no longer a PC term ) in a lot of his mannerisms, especially Smith and Capaldi, but even Tennant and Eccleston. In fact it made the "Doctor Donna" scenes quite fascinating as she mirrored Tennant's Doctor-mannerisms really convincingly, without her seeming masculine or him feminine.

So long as they stick with that I don't think the biological gender will matter much at all. Despite those videos ranting about how The Doctor "is male!", he's not actually a very "male" character at all.
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