[Oliver_W]

Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper

The interviews released were from the first prisoners a few weeks back, which you can find everywhere.

Ah right, I thought you meant from the latest batch of releasees. My bad.

Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper

You can, however, see the footage of the most recent detainees being handed over to the red cross, and you can make up your own mind whether or not you feel the people waving and thanking their captors whilst looking clean, without their clothes torn off, and all their limbs intact, is a fair reflection of the truth or Hamas propaganda.

Just checking, do you mean the footage released by Hamas, where you can hear someone saying "keep waving" ?

[The Slim Reaper]

Originally Posted by Oliver_W

Just checking, do you mean the footage released by Hamas, where you can hear someone saying "keep waving" ?

Like I said, you can make up your own mind. Sounds more like waiting to me.

[Cherry Christmas]

Originally Posted by Oliver_W

Ah right, I thought you meant from the latest batch of releasees. My bad.



Just checking, do you mean the footage released by Hamas, where you can hear someone saying "keep waving" ?

Hamas are completely misunderstood pussycats, that 4 year old girl who was released in the last batch is now an orphan but I am sure she doesn't mind

[The Slim Reaper]

Folks seem a bit upset that raping and butchering hasn't been happening as predicted, so have ot rely on the most facile load of tosh imaginable in order to pretend things are being said which haven't been said.

[arista]

[arista]

[arista]

[Cherry Christmas]

Aunt of 12-year-old Eitan Yahalomi says the hostage children were threatened at gunpoint to keep quiet; father of 9-year-old Emily hand says she only whispers

The aunt of 12-year-old Eitan Yahalomi, who was freed on Monday evening along with ten other Israelis, told of the “horrors” that the hostages experienced after being abducted by the terrorist organization Hamas on October 7.

"I wanted to hope he'd have been treated well but apparently not, they're monsters. His father is still there, 160 people are still there,” Deborah Cohen said in an interview with the French BFM.


Cohen said the 12-year-old boy was beaten by civilians as soon as he arrived in Gaza on October 7, a few hours after being kidnapped, and throughout his captivity the terrorists had forced the child to watch brutal videos from the massacres at the Kibbutzim.

"Every time a child cried, the terrorists would threaten them with a gun to keep quiet," the aunt described the “horrors in captivity” that her nephew and others went through, though she herself has not yet seen Eitan but has spoken to his mother Bat Sheva.

Cohen said the 12-year-old boy was beaten by civilians as soon as he arrived in Gaza on October 7, a few hours after being kidnapped, and throughout his captivity the terrorists had forced the child to watch brutal videos from the massacres at the Kibbutzim.

https://www.i24news.tv/en/news/israe...assacre-videos


sounds like they had a ball

[arista]

BBC:

[18:26
Hamas reportedly handing over more
hostages to the Red Cross

Israeli media and international news agencies
are reporting that the next group of hostages
are being handed over by Hamas to
humanitarian organisation the International
Committee of the Red Cross (ICRC).

Today's planned release is part of a
two-day extension
to a pause in the fighting that'll see
Hamas release hostages - and, in exchange,
Palestinian prisoners released by Israel.]

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Cherie

sounds like they had a ball

Literally no one has said they did Cherie, but by all means carry on strawmanning.

[Liam-]

Anybody want to mention the hostages released by Israel that have told of their abuse, both physical and sexual? No?

[The Slim Reaper]

[Cherry Christmas]

Originally Posted by Liam-

Anybody want to mention the hostages released by Israel that have told of their abuse, both physical and sexual? No?

There are no winners in this, both are as bad as each other

that said these are innocent kids who have done nothing to Palestinians

[Oliver_W]

Originally Posted by Liam-

Anybody want to mention the hostages released by Israel that have told of their abuse, both physical and sexual? No?

No-one's said anything about how clean and well-cared for the prisoners released by Israel appeared to be.

[arista]

[Cherry Christmas]

Originally Posted by Oliver_W

No-one's said anything about how clean and well-cared for the prisoners released by Israel appeared to be.

Indeed, also I don't know how you can be so concerned about the safety of Palestinian families but not Israeli families, both are at the mercy of their governments decisions

[Cherry Christmas]

Israel today said it is checking claims by Hamas that Kfir Babis, a baby who was snatched and taken into Gaza by the terrorists, was killed in an Israeli airstrike alongside his mother and brother.

Hamas' armed wing Al-Qassam Brigades claimed, without providing evidence, that the 10-month-old baby, his mother Shiri Silberman-Babis, 30, and four-year-old brother Ariel, were killed in an Israeli bombardment before the truce was announced.

Kfir's father Yarden, who was taken hostage by the terrorists, was not mentioned in the statement.

The Israeli military said it is checking the claims by Hamas that the little baby was killed alongside his mother and brother while they were being kept hostage by the terrorists.

The world had watched in horror on October 7 when footage emerged of Hamas terrorists dragging Shiri and her young family from their home in Nir Oz Kibbutz towards a waiting car.

Video showed the sobbing mother clutching onto Kfir and Ariel as they were kidnapped, as horrified neighbours screamed: 'She has a baby.'

The family had not been heard from since but there were hopes that they would be released by Hamas as part of a prisoner exchange during the truce between Israel and the terrorist group.

But Hamas today claimed - without providing evidence - that Kfir, Shiri and Ariel were killed in an Israeli airstrike on Gaza in the days before the truce was announced



Convenient, just as it emerged this family had been handed over to Islamic Jihad

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...ther-Gaza.html

[arista]

Soon,
the 6th Group of Hostages is expected to be freed.


Loads of Ambulances are standing by
at the Egypt-Gaza Border Crossing


Ref: FoxNewsHD Live (online only)/CNN HD USA

[Ninastar]

[Cherry Christmas]

Originally Posted by Ninastar

it kinda ties in with some hostages being taken to the Al Shifa hospital and two being found dead in the grounds

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Ninastar

Not to question the accuracy of Israeli televised news as the source, but it's barely possible for a healthy adult to survive 50 days without food, essentially impossible for a child to survive 50 days without food, and even if technically possible not without being in the severe stages of starvation (i.e. coma, beginning organ failure).

Not passing comment on the actual conditions hostages were kept in (I can't find any good sources on that), just saying that the claim of 50 days without being given any food is patently false.

[Livia]

The version I read was that the child was "barely fed". But, let's wait for the Hamas version to please all contributors to the thread.

[Ninastar]

I mean I kind of assumed he must have been fed something every once in a while to keep from dying but I guess a little bit of food is better than no food. Thanks Hamas!

[The Slim Reaper]

This is obviously mistreatment (if the report is true), but maybe it's a good way to start a discussion on Israel having the ability to starve and limit food into Gaza to begin with and have been doing so since way before October 7th.

Food insecurity and starvation is also part of collective punishment and is considered a war crime

https://www.oxfam.org/en/press-relea...ivilians-oxfam

Starvation as weapon of war being used against Gaza civilians - Oxfam

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Livia

The version I read was that the child was "barely fed". But, let's wait for the Hamas version to please all contributors to the thread.

Or we could rely solely on first-person accounts from source instead of any "version".