[The Slim Reaper]

More absolutely shameful behaviour.

[Vanessa]

Has anyone been following South Africa trial against Israel?
Interesting stuff. I really hope Palestine win their case. Genocide is never justified.

[bots]

UK Jets take off from cyprus



US Ship firing missiles

[Nicky91]

solid statements from South Africa


the root of the problem of Israel with gaza is way deeper than just the Hamas terrorists




Asia's AFC were so correct in kicking these trolls out back then, UEFA and EBU need to follow their example tbh



i am never gonna be silent anymore on May 4th for Israel i'll be silent for palestinians instead

[Oliver_W]

Originally Posted by Nicky91

i am never gonna be silent anymore on May 4th for Israel i'll be silent for palestinians instead

Either way, it's appreciated x

[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by Nicky91

solid statements from South Africa


the root of the problem of Israel with gaza is way deeper than just the Hamas terrorists




Asia's AFC were so correct in kicking these trolls out back then, UEFA and EBU need to follow their example tbh



i am never gonna be silent anymore on May 4th for Israel i'll be silent for palestinians instead

The land has always belonged to Palestine. Israel stole it by force.

[bots]

Originally Posted by Vanessa

The land has always belonged to Palestine. Israel stole it by force.

thats just not true Vanessa, please verify your historical information about the origins of Israel

[user104658]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

thats just not true Vanessa, please verify your historical information about the origins of Israel

Israel didn't even steal the land they were given it by us. And we sort of inherited it. I guess it was definitely the plaything of empires though so it was at SOME point stolen from someone ... I guess you could accuse them of handling stolen goods .

But not really because the USA exists, and for the USA to exist legitimately we have to accept Lockian philosophy as valid, and if Lockian philosophy is valid then Israel belonged to the Palestinians before Britain signed it over as Israeli land.

It all gets a bit silly if you think about it too much because at the end of the day, physical borders are imaginary things that we just sort of made up. They don't actually exist, they just represent a status quo agreement.

[Nicky91]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

thats just not true Vanessa, please verify your historical information about the origins of Israel

Originally Posted by Soldier Boy

Israel didn't even steal the land they were given it by us. And we sort of inherited it. I guess it was definitely the plaything of empires though so it was at SOME point stolen from someone ... I guess you could accuse them of handling stolen goods .

But not really because the USA exists, and for the USA to exist legitimately we have to accept Lockian philosophy as valid, and if Lockian philosophy is valid then Israel belonged to the Palestinians before Britain signed it over as Israeli land.

It all gets a bit silly if you think about it too much because at the end of the day, physical borders are imaginary things that we just sort of made up. They don't actually exist, they just represent a status quo agreement.

Israel occupied palestinian territory in 1948, since then this war has been going on

Hamas was formed as a means of defence in 1967

[Livia]

Originally Posted by Vanessa

The land has always belonged to Palestine. Israel stole it by force.

Palestine was a name given to the area by the Romans 2000 years ago during their occupation, six hundred years before the birth of Islam. It was a derogatory term. I'm not sure where you're getting your information from but it's not a reliable source.

[Nicky91]

yup

President Abbas (88 years old nowadays btw) his family fled to Syria back in the 1948 Palestine War, first israeli-palestinian conflict


you can find every bit of information on wikipedia


Hamas was created after Israel occupied palestinian territory back in 1967 as a means of defending themselves against their aggressor



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i am not antisemitic, what was done to the jewish people in 40-45 is also horrible yes, but no need to do the exact same thing to the palestinians either this pisses me off that their ego's are too huge for them not to see the mistakes they made

[Ninastar]

I didn’t see it before but I can definitely see why there was accusations of antisemitism on here

I do have to bear in mind that it’s mostly baiting… but still. Gross

[Nicky91]

what a lame response from Israel at south africa's statements, again saying Hamas using palestinians as human shields

tell us something we don't know already and u could've used help from USA their navy seals to fight terrorism honestly with a more cleaner, preciser approach


so lame ******* excuse from IDF now

[arista]

[arista]

[arista]

Sadly
Two Hostages
have been shown dead in Gaza

A Video showed the two.

Hamas said an IDF missile killed them.


All Media,

[arista]

Photo of the 2 hostages, Killed.

[arista]

[Nicky91]

Originally Posted by arista

well said Benny, demolish palestine entirely

[The Slim Reaper]

[arista]

[user104658]

The eradication of Gaza has been such a clear goal in this conflict that this was an inevitability. At this point I'm fairly convinced - like 80% convinced - they deliberately poked a hole in their anti-terrorism defense measures and leaked it. Not entirely a false flag per se but I think they, plain and simple, desperately wanted a justification for a ground invasion of Gaza. I think there are probably some extremely frustrated individuals out there because the world's reaction has been so mixed.

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by Soldier Boy

The eradication of Gaza has been such a clear goal in this conflict that this was an inevitability. At this point I'm fairly convinced - like 80% convinced - they deliberately poked a hole in their anti-terrorism defense measures and leaked it. Not entirely a false flag per se but I think they, plain and simple, desperately wanted a justification for a ground invasion of Gaza. I think there are probably some extremely frustrated individuals out there because the world's reaction has been so mixed.

How I'd love to think that wasn't so.

However once Netanyahu was back in power in Israel.
I expected conflict to be more than likely.

I'm more in agreement with your post above now.
I'm dismayed and disgusted at the now endless slaughtering of innocents Inc children going on.
Heartbreaking.

[bots]

Originally Posted by Soldier Boy

The eradication of Gaza has been such a clear goal in this conflict that this was an inevitability. At this point I'm fairly convinced - like 80% convinced - they deliberately poked a hole in their anti-terrorism defense measures and leaked it. Not entirely a false flag per se but I think they, plain and simple, desperately wanted a justification for a ground invasion of Gaza. I think there are probably some extremely frustrated individuals out there because the world's reaction has been so mixed.

the palestinians had been planning the attack and preparing for it for years, so i think you have gone one conspiracy too far

[Nicky91]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

the palestinians had been planning the attack and preparing for it for years, so i think you have gone one conspiracy too far

do you have evidence to back this up?


also i doubt Israel will continue with the bloodshed once Hamas is gone, when they eliminated Hamas, Netanyahu will be removed from power, and everyone of his loyalists i think to start building towards a better future again, normalizing relations either, handing an apology for some mistakes made in this crisis which cost the lives of several innocent palestinians



in terms of the other crisis, UK and USA are involved over in Yemen, they too same as Israel, fight terrorism, what the Houthi's are, terrorists against cargo ships