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Old 06-11-2020, 02:52 PM #1
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Trump doesn't like the count

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That Georgia margin though .

Then again, it's no 2000 Bush/Gore.
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Trump's own fault this, he told his people to vote in person, and those votes are among first to be counted since that goes quicker

the postal votes sit in boxes, and must be counted by hand, that takes up a long time, so yeah easy to explain why Trump first had solid leads, and then Biden gaining more and more ground

the only Biden voters who probably voted in person were youngsters who not among risk groups for covid-19, every other voter of Biden probably too scared to vote in person (and it is a valid reason given we're in a pandemic) voted by mail

so yeah Trump has nothing concrete to stand on, to make those accusations of fraud
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Trump's own fault this, he told his people to vote in person, and those votes are among first to be counted since that goes quicker

the postal votes sit in boxes, and must be counted by hand, that takes up a long time, so yeah easy to explain why Trump first had solid leads, and then Biden gaining more and more ground

the only Biden voters who probably voted in person were youngsters who not among risk groups for covid-19, every other voter of Biden probably too scared to vote in person (and it is a valid reason given we're in a pandemic) voted by mail

so yeah Trump has nothing concrete to stand on, to make those accusations of fraud
Exactly due to Covid ,it made more sense to vote by mail.

I'm glad more and more people got to vote , this election has had such a good turn out .
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Fox are refusing to call Biden President Elect even when the result is official and have said all his votes a fraud but admit they have no proof
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Fox are refusing to call Biden President Elect even when the result is official and have said all his votes a fraud but admit they have no proof


But they are saying

Biden Takes the Lead in 2 States
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BBC News is terrible
they keep going to BBC World News

Today In Liverpool UK
the City are doing massive fast Covid tests
thats just as important.
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The main reason Biden has won is because it’s enabled the lazy to vote by this Mail voteing (and having a month to vote), this has allowed lazy people who otherwise probably wouldn’t have voted have voted in demand for Biden because social media has told them to and because they have nothing else to do.

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The main reason Biden has won is because it’s enabled the lazy to vote by this Mail voteing (and having a month to vote), this has allowed lazy people who otherwise probably wouldn’t have voted have voted in demand for Biden because social media has told them to and because they have nothing else to do.
Everyone, even the lazy and disenfranchised, should vote whether it ends up with a Biden or Trump presidency, a high turnout is a good thing.

(but voting should never be compulsory)
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The main reason Biden has won is because it’s enabled the lazy to vote by this Mail voteing (and having a month to vote), this has allowed lazy people who otherwise probably wouldn’t have voted have voted in demand for Biden because social media has told them to and because they have nothing else to do.
We're in the middle of a Pandemic, the USA in particular has been hit very badly, mail in voting is the most sensible option and like Oliver said every citizen is entitled to vote, what you're saying is basically "If less people voted Trump would have won"
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We're in the middle of a Pandemic, the USA in particular has been hit very badly, mail in voting is the most sensible option and like Oliver said every citizen is entitled to vote, what you're saying is basically "If less people voted Trump would have won"


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We're in the middle of a Pandemic, the USA in particular has been hit very badly, mail in voting is the most sensible option and like Oliver said every citizen is entitled to vote, what you're saying is basically "If less people voted Trump would have won"
The argument is basically 'how dare you keep safe in this pandemic '
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We're in the middle of a Pandemic, the USA in particular has been hit very badly, mail in voting is the most sensible option and like Oliver said every citizen is entitled to vote, what you're saying is basically "If less people voted Trump would have won"
Perhaps I should have worded it differently, but this vote has had the largest voting turnout by a significant amount.

Both Biden and trump have the highest votes in presidency history by a large margin.

I don’t think it is beyond the realms to believe the reason for this is because there has been a 1 month voting window for ballot voting. The ballot votes have been reported to be roughly 70% in Bidens favour and so significantly Democratic Party (which has sealed this election due to how close it has been)

It is not ludicrous to beleive that mail voting being open for 1 month (which allows people who would put it off/not typically bother voting) to vote, it is reasonable to believe 70% of these extra people will therefore be democratic. These votes have been the sway votes, and so I don’t think it’s unreasonable to think this 1 month voting period is solely what has swayed the final decision with it being as close as it has been. It’s come down to the wire and the extra votes from people who may not have voted has probably sealed it

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Perhaps I should have worded it differently, but this vote has had the largest voting turnout by a significant amount.

Both Biden and trump have the highest votes in presidency history by a large margin.

I don’t think it is beyond the realms to believe the reason for this is because there has been a 1 month voting window for ballot voting. The ballot votes have been reported to be roughly 70% in Bidens favour and so significantly Democratic Party. It is not ludicrous to beleive if Mail voting for 1 month (allowing people who would put it off/not typically bother voting) to vote, it is reasonable to believe 70% of these people will therefore be democratic. These votes have been the sway votes, and so I don’t think it’s unreasonable to think this 1 month voting period is solely what has swayed the final decision
Why is that a bad thing? the best thing for a democracy is to have as many citizens as possible voting, surely? Then that is absolutely the will of the people being done
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Both Biden and trump have the highest votes in presidency history by a large margin.
That doesn't mean much, with a growing population virtually every new election will have "the most votes ever." It's kinda like how movies reaching a billion dollars doesn't mean much now with the rising costs of tickets etc.

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It is not ludicrous to beleive that mail voting being open for 1 month (which allows people who would put it off/not typically bother voting) to vote, it is reasonable to believe 70% of these extra people will therefore be democratic. These votes have been the sway votes, and so I don’t think it’s unreasonable to think this 1 month voting period is solely what has swayed the final decision
Again, voting should be accessible maaaybe the window should be tighter, a smaller amount of time to do so, but I wonder if you'd be on about this if Trump had benefited?
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Georgia can go back to Trump
as they are now going through Army votes
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So there's gonna be a recount no matter what in Georgia? (not that it will make much difference as Biden will still be President elect)
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So there's gonna be a recount no matter what in Georgia? (not that it will make much difference as Biden will still be President elect)
What i find hilarious is when trump was winning states by less then 1% nobody was crying fraud and begging for a recount
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What i find hilarious is when trump was winning states by less then 1% nobody was crying fraud and begging for a recount
Exactly!
And even 4 years ago Hilary just accepted she lost , as terrible as it was . She still respected the system.
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