[DanaC]

*smiles*

Well, I don't think that's racism. Desire is desire. You are attracted to what you are attracted to. Some people just aren't attracted to darker skin tones and almond eyes. Some aren't attracted to red hair and freckles. Some men really don't find tall women a turn on, and some women aren't attracted to bald men. C'est la vie. It's all good.

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by DanaC

*smiles*

Well, I don't think that's racism. Desire is desire. You are attracted to what you are attracted to. Some people just aren't attracted to darker skin tones and almond eyes. Some aren't attracted to red hair and freckles. Some men really don't find tall women a turn on, and some women aren't attracted to bald men. C'est la vie. It's all good.

..no, everyone loves Marc, Dana, regardless of their attraction preference, some things are just too strong to be denied.....

[Kyle]

Originally Posted by DanaC

*smiles*

Well, I don't think that's racism. Desire is desire. You are attracted to what you are attracted to. Some people just aren't attracted to darker skin tones and almond eyes. Some aren't attracted to red hair and freckles. Some men really don't find tall women a turn on, and some women aren't attracted to bald men. C'est la vie. It's all good.

Yes actually that makes sense. When you split it Down again I suppose you can be attracted to certain features and attributes within the Caucasian spectrum. Like you said some people don't like red hair and freckles whereas I think women with red hair and freckles and pale skin are gorgeous. I also like the dark skin, dark hair Roman/Italian look too.

I guess that makes us great in that there really is someone out there for everybody.

[MachoPoodle]

Originally Posted by DanaC

Well, I don't think that's racism. Desire is desire. You are attracted to what you are attracted to. Some people just aren't attracted to darker skin tones and almond eyes. Some aren't attracted to red hair and freckles. Some men really don't find tall women a turn on, and some women aren't attracted to bald men. C'est la vie. It's all good.

I agree with this, but also want to add that just like not being attracted to someone of a certain race doesn't automatically make one racist, the opposite is also true; just because a person isattracted to someone belonging to another race, doesn't mean they're automatically not racist.

Originally Posted by MachoPoodle

I agree with this, but also want to add that just like not being attracted to someone of a certain race doesn't automatically make one racist, the opposite is also true; just because a person isattracted to someone belonging to another race, doesn't mean they're automatically not racist.

That's why I like to keep a back up friend of each race in reserve.

[Kizzy]

Once you vocalise that you find a whole countries women ugly I can see why it would be seen as racist at worst and at best hugely rude and offensive.

[Daffodil]

Originally Posted by Jesus.

That girl has coloured contacts in.

[DanaC]

She is drop dead gorgeous.

Aye - not bad for a chink.





































What?

[Northern Monkey]

Originally Posted by Jesus.

Aye - not bad for a chink.





























What?

just imagine the meltdown on here if Big Ron said that?lol

[DanaC]

Hahahahaha.

[DanaC]

Y'know, when my Dad and his family arrived here from India, when he was around 11 years old, he had a slightly Indian look about him, and spoke with an Anglo-Indian accent. For a couple of years he used to get chased round the playground, called pa*i and told he stank like a curry house. Got into a lot of fights over that sort of crap.

He survived. He grew a thick skin. But he also remembered.

Whatever his views on certain races (he was no anti-racist paragon I'm afraid) he never would let me or my brother tell racist jokes (before we'd learned why they were harmful). Someone might not be that bothered. Someone else might be. Both reactions are equally valid. Words can hurt. Why would you want to hurt just for a cheap laugh?

[DanaC]

True dat.

[DanaC]

Thinking about it, there could be a 'racist' element to how we form desire. Inasmuch as, if we are presented with primarily negative stereotypes, or images of otherness of one ethnicity, whilst our growing up primarily consists of exposure o our own ethnicity, those positive and negative associations will naturally affect desire.

But ... you really can go too deep on this stuff. It's interesting at an academic level, but you have to step outside your own experience of life and your own culture to properly examine it, and that's just not how we live and experience life day to day. We are products of our culture and society. And that culture and society are threaded through with racism, sexism and homophobia, sometimes in ways that only become apparent if you step out of your own world and look back into it.

We're also human...with a natural inclination to categorise and a tendency towards reading the world visually.

[Jimrod]

The problem with all PC behaviour is that it ends up going to far so people get fed up with it and you run the risk of a backlash. Lately there's lots of controversy over stop-and-search targeting certain racial demographics - well if those demographics are statistically more likely to commit crime then that's completely correct sadly.

I had one of these uncomfortable debates the other night after lots of travelling and waiting in security queues - basically ending up with me saying "when was the last time a grey-haired old lady bombed something? Looking back at every Western, post Northern Ireland terrorist attack (or attempted one) the vast vast majority are commuted by brown people with beards called some variation of Mohammad/Ali/Abdul etc". I am not being racist even though this will probably get me a ban and would certainly get me a warning in BB - I was stating FACT. For some reason PC behaviour ignores facts.

That said - Ron did say something that would have been acceptable in the 70's/80's on TV but not now outside of risqué comedy shows. He must know he wouldn't get away with it and he probably regrets it but he was just talking freely and said something not uncommon from people of his generation or indeed many others in the safety of their own homes would say "as a joke".

[MachoPoodle]

Originally Posted by Jimrod

The problem with all PC behaviour is that it ends up going to far so people get fed up with it and you run the risk of a backlash.

I disagree. From my experience it's much more common people simply use this as an excuse. What I do get fed up with however, is the underlying problem causing us to constantly having to discuss it.

[Jimrod]

Originally Posted by MachoPoodle

I disagree. From my experience it's much more common people simply use this as an excuse. What I do get fed up with however, is the underlying problem causing us to constantly having to discuss it.

Look at UKIP's increased popularity in recent years, is it because people are genuinely getting more xenophobic or more likely because we are constantly being told we can't say this and that, everything is a race issue yet when the roles are reversed (ie Abu Hamza situation) our government goes soft. If you tell people constantly that they can't say or do something yet allow others to do it then you get resentment and inevitably cause the very behaviour shift you're trying to prevent.

(I vote Conservative btw )

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by Jimrod

Look at UKIP's increased popularity in recent years, is it because people are genuinely getting more xenophobic or more likely because we are constantly being told we can't say this and that, everything is a race issue yet when the roles are reversed (ie Abu Hamza situation) our government goes soft. If you tell people constantly that they can't say or do something yet allow others to do it then you get resentment and inevitably cause the very behaviour shift you're trying to prevent.

(I vote Conservative btw )

Wait until our Grandchildren are trying to get a home, dentist, job

[DanaC]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

Wait until our Grandchildren are trying to get a home, dentist, job

Meaning?

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

Wait until our Grandchildren are trying to get a home, dentist, job

oh God. Leaves the thread.

[MachoPoodle]

Originally Posted by Jimrod

Look at UKIP's increased popularity in recent years, is it because people are genuinely getting more xenophobic or more likely because we are constantly being told we can't say this and that, everything is a race issue yet when the roles are reversed (ie Abu Hamza situation) our government goes soft. If you tell people constantly that they can't say or do something yet allow others to do it then you get resentment and inevitably cause the very behaviour shift you're trying to prevent.

(I vote Conservative btw )

Exactly who is really stopping you from saying non-PC things, I'd truly like to know? Not being allowed to say what you want is NOT the same thing as speaking your mind and others in turn saying they don't think what you are saying is correct/ok/whatever.

[Jimrod]

Originally Posted by MachoPoodle

Exactly who is really stopping you from saying non-PC things, I'd truly like to know? Not being allowed to say what you want is NOT the same thing as speaking your mind and others in turn saying they don't think what you are saying is correct/ok/whatever.

Ok, example - Those (Muslim) protesters saying "Western soldiers burn in hell" and burning poppies on Remembrance Day (£50 fine) and recently some charity runners wearing Mankini's and having stones thrown at them because they were running through a "Muslim area" dressed "inappropriately". No punishment. I didn't realise we had areas outside of religious buildings where you had to behave differently in England for religious reasons. If we reversed the roles to being white people saying and doing the same things to brown people they would have been locked up for Racial Hatred crimes instantly. This is where resentment begins, in trying to be PC our Police/courts start to cause resentment, hence the swing in voters turning to Nationalistic parties.

[Kizzy]

Come on dana you're not daft what do you think it means?

[DanaC]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

Come on dana you're not daft what do you think it means?

I think I know what it means. I hope I'm wrong though.