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Old 20-05-2015, 12:33 AM #201
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Yes that's why we have a conservative government sadly
wrong. People are easily influenced by passing fads like Russell brand who has no depth and not even the backbone to offer any practical ideas
the tories are the lesser of the 2 evils at this moment in time....though of course they will be judged on a daily basis as their government rolls on and no buck passing to the lib dems

new labour and their fans were easily influenced by bliars spin and lies....that of course lead us all to hell in a handbasket

tories are wolves , new labour are wolves in sheeps clothing

we need a new genuine honest progressive socialist leader with integrity , I cant see such a person yet
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wrong. People are easily influenced by passing fads like Russell brand who has no depth and not even the backbone to offer any practical ideas
the tories are the lesser of the 2 evils at this moment in time....though of course they will be judged on a daily basis as their government rolls on and no buck passing to the lib dems

new labour and their fans were easily influenced by bliars spin and lies....that of course lead us all to hell in a handbasket

tories are wolves , new labour are wolves in sheeps clothing

we need a new genuine honest progressive socialist leader with integrity , I cant see such a person yet
All he advocates is that you look at all things objectively how can that be wrong? Is the saying not believe none of what you read and only half of that you see?....
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What is this obsession with him or anyone only being allowed a voice if they're a politician?... :/
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What is this obsession with him or anyone only being allowed a voice if they're a politician?... :/
As a MP he can help real people
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What is this obsession with him or anyone only being allowed a voice if they're a politician?... :/
ifs your new labour who banned free speech....unless of course its bashing the rich
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russel brand is a lot more dangerous than nigel farage and a damn sight less honest sincere realistic hard working brave or productive.....farage has been proven right about EVERYTHING
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russel brand is a lot more dangerous than nigel farage and a damn sight less honest sincere realistic hard working brave or productive.....farage has been proven right about EVERYTHING
No he hasn't.
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No he hasn't.
im afraid he has and everything you've said on this thread is uninformed nonsense

farage has always had his facts and figures quoting who our borders are open to , how many people , how many net have arrived....hes exposed the fact our nhs doesn't even bothered claiming back on travel insurance, let alone other insurances.....that the national health service gives aids patients 60% of its budget....our own people who have been here decades and paid into the pot have to wait , sometimes until they die....child benefits sent back to eqypt , Algeria, iran, etc etc etc this is utter madness the radicalisation in the schools the mosques too ....all these benefits here and sent abroad without even paying any national insurance as we all have to do? farage has been to parliament in European and exposed the endless waste cover ups corruption and red tape for years....he is a rich man he didn't need to , hes done this country an enormous service...now ALL parties are folliwing him because they didn't have the guts to expose this themselves

hes right about everything

ps you didn't answer me, have you read the eu constitution? didn't think so...farage has
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ifs your new labour who banned free speech....unless of course its bashing the rich
He is rich, is he bashing himself?...
It's strange how one bloke doing a 5 min you tube vid can cause so much outrage :/
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He is rich, is he bashing himself?...
It's strange how one bloke doing a 5 min you tube vid can cause so much outrage :/
too much bishop bashing is his problem.....he shows no empathy for victims of crackheads...all his attention his focussed on his being more compassionate to crackheads...I say protect the peaceful majority first then offer help to the druggies who earn and deserve it

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No he hasn't.
What then, has he been WRONG about?

Not IMMIGRATION because Cameron is now SHAMELESSLY making all the same noises once he realised just how much the Great british Public AGREE with Farage's TRUTH.

Not the EU because Cameron has now promised a referendum after he realised just how much a growing percentage the Great British Public AGREE with Farage's TRUTH despite the pro-EU propaganda media machine unjustly attacking and fallaciously ridiculing Farage at every opportunity.

Not Farage's proposal to find the savings being unjustly 'won' from the Austerity Measures by reducing our banal Foreign Aid Budget - a huge proportion of which Billions has been corruptly stolen, misappropriated, wasted on Vanity Projects or wasted on downright - - foreseeable -- failures.
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It's strange how one bloke doing a 5 min you tube vid can cause so much outrage :/
It's the idiots who swallow his shallow transparent tripe as if it was a New Gospel and worship him blindly as the 'New Messiah' figure which he is cultivating who are dangerous.
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too much bishop bashing is his problem.....he shows no empathy for victims of crackheads...all his attention his focussed on his being more compassionate to crackheads...I say protect the peaceful majority first then offer help to the druggies who earn and deserve it
Hmmm... if you subscribe to your view that some people are more 'worthy' then I'm sure that makes sense. I'm not one fortunately.
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Hmmm... if you subscribe to your view that some people are more 'worthy' then I'm sure that makes sense. I'm not one fortunately.
So is Peter Sutcliffe or Jihadi John AS worthy as your Mother, Father, Child?
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It's the idiots who swallow his shallow transparent tripe as if it was a New Gospel and worship him blindly as the 'New Messiah' figure which he is cultivating who are dangerous.
Well there's nobody holding a gun to your head to watch it, we all have views others feel are unorthodox.
There's nothing inherently dangerous about listening to the views of others in my opinion, if you approach them with a rational objective mind.
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Well there's nobody holding a gun to your head to watch it, we all have views others feel are unorthodox.
There's nothing inherently dangerous about listening to the views of others in my opinion, if you approach them with a rational objective mind.
But you are NOT approaching idiot Brand with a rational objective mind Kizzy - you are in a state of denial and continuing to mindlessly post all his crapola videos despite being made aware of the truth about his scrambled, confused self-contradictory ideologies, and the true self-serving reasons behind his politicising.

No one is 'holding a gun to my head and forcing me to watch it' no more than Islamic Hate Preachers Anjem Choudary and Mizanur Rahman ever forced me to listen to their bile, but being a responsible, mature adult who CARES about his country and his children and family's future in it, I am FORCED by responsibility and a sense of vigilance to be aware of what toxic bile ALL such DANGEROUS political crackpots are spewing out, if such bile is likely to CORRUPT and RADICALISE naive and impressionable people to the degree that their indoctrination ENDANGERS this country and my children's and families future in it.

Cretin Brand is as dangerous in his way to our democracy as Choudary and Rahman.
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So is Peter Sutcliffe or Jihadi John AS worthy as your Mother, Father, Child?
Oh just stop with your bizarre extremes, we shouldn't watch trews because he associates with ex addicts and that means that we now think more about jihadi john than our families?... I'm sorry that's just 3 degrees of separation too far
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But you are NOT approaching idiot Brand with a rational objective mind Kizzy - you are in a state of denial and continuing to mindlessly post all his crapola videos despite being made aware of the truth about his scrambled, confused self-contradictory ideologies, and the true self-serving reasons behind his politicising.

No one is 'holding a gun to my head and forcing me to watch it' no more than Islamic Hate Preachers Anjem Choudary and Mizanur Rahman ever forced me to listen to their bile, but being a responsible, mature adult who CARES about his country and his children and family's future in it, I am FORCED by responsibility and a sense of vigilance to be aware of what toxic bile ALL such DANGEROUS political crackpots are spewing out, if such bile is likely to CORRUPT and RADICALISE naive and impressionable people to the degree that their indoctrination ENDANGERS this country and my children's and families future in it.
Cretin Brand is as dangerous in his way to our democracy as Choudary and Rahman.
I'm sorry... Are you trying to suggest I don't know my own mind?

You obviously don't have any interest in this thread other than slurring those who watch these vids..for what reason isn't really clear.
Nobody is being radicalised, there is nothing that would enrage my sense of social responsibility to such an extent that I thought that these videos were corrupting the nation, that is a total overreaction.
Has there been any crimes committed that can be directly linked to the trews? No. In fact there is an incredible amount of social cohesion and community enterprise and togetherness been created. I don't share your pessimism.
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Well there's nobody holding a gun to your head to watch it, we all have views others feel are unorthodox.
There's nothing inherently dangerous about listening to the views of others in my opinion, if you approach them with a rational objective mind.
yet your party of new labour gave away our country to the European union and wouldn't even allow us to debate it, let alone have a referendum? talk about a walking contradiction. scumbag warmongering spin doctor Alistair Campbell said it was dangerous to even allow the british public to debate the European union? anti democratic duplicitous warmonger........but new labour are so vile so dishonest so plain evil they have never even brought themselves to apologise to the british people or the people in Iraq and the millions of relatives of the innocents murdered thanks to new labour
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