[Crimson Dynamo]

Glad to see Rylan take this topic on head first last night

AND ABSOLUTELY RUBBISH IT AND THOSE WHO PROPAGATE SUCH ARRANT NONSENSE

[Marsh.]

Rylan probably didn't even know who she was before she went in.

[Northern Monkey]

I don’t think Ann has showed any hate or predjudice towards anyone because of their sexual preferences in the house.
She’s equally prudish with language,different topics of conversation,partying,staying up late etc.

[Marsh.]

Yeah if your only argument to say Shilpa was not racially bullied is "Poppadom is not racist" then you clearly didn't watch much of CBB5. Thee racism in that series was abhorrent. Especially from, as Vicky said, Danielle and Jack.

To deny that you have got to be wilfully ignorant.

[HBIC]

Most Ann fans clearly agree with her views but hide behind the usual "she tells it like it is, she's so honest!!!" excuse. No, just be honest and admit you agree with her views on things like gay marriage.

I am surprised this forum has so many homophobes. I would have thought a show like this would have a more liberal audience but I guess I was wrong.

[Alf]

Originally Posted by HBIC

Most Ann fans clearly agree with her views but hide behind the usual "she tells it like it is, she's so honest!!!" excuse. No, just be honest and admit you agree with her views on things like gay marriage.

I am surprised this forum has so many homophobes. I would have thought a show like this would have a more liberal audience but I guess I was wrong.

And it's fine for you to stereo-type

[rusticgal]

Originally Posted by HBIC

Most Ann fans clearly agree with her views but hide behind the usual "she tells it like it is, she's so honest!!!" excuse. No, just be honest and admit you agree with her views on things like gay marriage.

I am surprised this forum has so many homophobes. I would have thought a show like this would have a more liberal audience but I guess I was wrong.

Maybe some people just respect other people have the right to THEIR opinion. It doesn't mean we agree with it necessarily.
This is a democratic country...we are all entitled to a ****ing opinion...Ann has said nothing wrong but she clearly feels uncomfortable around certain behaviour between 2 men. She doesn't care what people do in private but personally finds it hard to watch in public. She has every right to feel that way...

[HBIC]

Originally Posted by rusticgal

Maybe some people just respect other people have the right to THEIR opinion. It doesn't mean we agree with it necessarily.
This is a democratic country...we are all entitled to a ****ing opinion...Ann has said nothing wrong but she clearly feels uncomfortable around certain behaviour between 2 men. She doesn't care what people do in private but personally finds it hard to watch in public. She has every right to feel that way...

I am not telling her not to have an opinion. You should respect my right to criticize her then since that is my opinion

Seems like a lot of the people that pull the "it's just her opinion!!!" card don't realize that I can also have an opinion about her opinion. Right to an opinion doesn't mean right to say what you want without being criticized.

[rusticgal]

Originally Posted by HBIC

I am not telling her not to have an opinion. You should respect my right to criticize her then since that is my opinion

Seems like a lot of the people that pull the "it's just her opinion!!!" card don't realize that I can also have an opinion about her opinion. Right to an opinion doesn't mean right to say what you want without being criticized.

You are not just critising her though you are critising fans that are agreeing with her right to have an opinion...which you agree she should have??

[HBIC]

Originally Posted by rusticgal

You are not just critising her though you are critising fans that are agreeing with her right to have an opinion...which you agree she should have??

No I just think most of her fans are being disingenuous. I am criticizing them for being cowardly. It's clear many agree with her views but they are not brave enough to say that, so they hide behind the usual facade of liking her because "she tells it like it is."

[poppsywoppsy]

Originally Posted by rusticgal

Maybe some people just respect other people have the right to THEIR opinion. It doesn't mean we agree with it necessarily.
This is a democratic country...we are all entitled to a ****ing opinion...Ann has said nothing wrong but she clearly feels uncomfortable around certain behaviour between 2 men. She doesn't care what people do in private but personally finds it hard to watch in public. She has every right to feel that way...

Exactly, thank you a sensible non inflammatory post.

[Robertocarlo]

Originally Posted by HBIC

Most Ann fans clearly agree with her views but hide behind the usual "she tells it like it is, she's so honest!!!" excuse. No, just be honest and admit you agree with her views on things like gay marriage.

I am surprised this forum has so many homophobes. I would have thought a show like this would have a more liberal audience but I guess I was wrong.

Here, here totally agree. Amazing in the 21st century we have so many ignorant bigoted homophobes.

[Vicky.]

http://www.digitalspy.com/tv/big-bro...n-bb-race-row/

This also.

The poppadom thing was dodgy. But this is undeniable really.

The limericks..though not explicitly saying the word P***...thats very obviously what was meant.

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

http://www.digitalspy.com/tv/big-bro...n-bb-race-row/

This also.

The poppadom thing was dodgy. But this is undeniable really.

The limericks..though not explicitly saying the word P***...thats very obviously what was meant.

Its a food Vicky,want she meant ( we will never know ) and what she actually said are 2 different things

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

Its a food Vicky,want she meant ( we will never know ) and what she actually said are 2 different things

P*** is not a food.

[Jack_]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

http://www.digitalspy.com/tv/big-bro...n-bb-race-row/

This also.

The poppadom thing was dodgy. But this is undeniable really.

The limericks..though not explicitly saying the word P***...thats very obviously what was meant.

I'd never read that before, thanks. I'm confused as to why they were telling them to switch off their microphones though?

[Vicky.]

Yes but its the context. And when added to that ridiculous limerick game..it looks seriously bad.

Like a curry is a food, but if I called an Indian person a curry, especially if I had been (basically) making jokes of racism terms around the same time, and my mates had been telling the person to 'go home' and such surely you can see why a lot of people would view curry as not just a food, but an offensive term?

[-Sue-]

I always remember that year of CBB with Jade shilpa etc we all will..

I will never forget Jermaine calling Jade & family 'white trash' there was no outrage for that though was it acceptable.. no but it happened

RIP Jade

[Northern Monkey]

Originally Posted by -Sue-

I always remember that year of CBB with Jade shilpa etc we all will..

I will never forget Jermaine calling Jade & family 'white trash' there was no outrage for that though was it acceptable.. no but it happened

RIP Jade

Now just imagine they called him ‘black trash’.

And yes i know ‘white trash’ is basically the US term for ‘chav’ but inserting the persons skin colour is either right for everyone or wrong for everyone.Anything else is racism.

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by -Sue-

I always remember that year of CBB with Jade shilpa etc we all will..

I will never forget Jermaine calling Jade & family 'white trash' there was no outrage for that though was it acceptable.. no but it happened

RIP Jade

The ONLY racism that series ,But it was against white people who dont matter ,the last years Jade had were ruined by lies ,like the lies still being said on here and other media.........years she should have enjoyed with her boys

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

The ONLY racism that series ,But it was against white people who dont matter ,the last years Jade had were ruined by lies ,like the lies still being said on here and other media.........years she should have enjoyed with her boys

Really you couldn't see racism anywhere else? Me thinks you purposely overlooked it all.

[Marsh.]

Wow the straws have been clutched so bad they are threadbare.

[poppsywoppsy]

What stood out to me was how Shilpa dealt with these racist comments by being so dignified and composed, also showing forgiveness.

I will never forget her, she was amazing.

It made those awful women look worse by being compared with her, her ability to deal with them in such a classy way, wiped the floor with their abhorrent abuse.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by poppsywoppsy

What stood out to me was how Shilpa dealt with these racist comments by being so dignified and composed, also showing forgiveness.

I will never forget her, she was amazing.

It made those awful women look worse by being compared with her, her ability to deal with them in such a classy way, wiped the floor with their abhorrent abuse.

what has that anecdote got to do with this straw man thread?

[Marsh.]

People are debating whether or not they believe Ann is homophobic or holds homophobic views.

Stop pretending anyone is trying to change her mind or stifle her right to an opinion. Not one single person had done that.