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lime · 23-06-2018, 08:38 AM

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Originally Posted by GiRTh

His natural instinct when asked a question is to lie. Its really quite bizarre.

I really don't get why their lies are not chanagelled...

Alf · 23-06-2018, 08:40 AM

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Originally Posted by lime

I really don't get why their lies are not chanagelled...

They are.

lime · 23-06-2018, 08:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Alf

They are.

Liars

GiRTh · 23-06-2018, 08:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Alf

They are.

Not to the degree I would like and I'm getting a bit frustrated with it. The media seem too concerned with stupid name calling and identity politics. He say some thing dodgy about Mexicans and they all call him racist, he insults a woman and they call him sexist, he calls Elizabeth Warren Pocahontas and they call his sexist and racist....meanwhile he's told in excess of twenty lies at a rally and they are not going into details and listing them. Personally I think the media approach is all wrong.

GiRTh · 23-06-2018, 08:23 AM

Also at the Rallies he loves so much, he must tell in excess of 20 lies every time. Dont know many other politicians who lie to such a degree.

Twosugars · 23-06-2018, 08:45 AM

Narcissists can't help lying, anything to make themselves look good.

Kazanne · 23-06-2018, 10:07 AM

I also think the media and oppositions are liars aswell,so much fake news and manipulation, a good example is here
,the girl was NOT separated from her mom,more lies from the press.
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world...cid=spartanntp

GiRTh · 23-06-2018, 10:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Kazanne

I also think the media and oppositions are liars aswell,so much fake news and manipulation, a good example is here
,the girl was NOT separated from her mom,more lies from the press. https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world...cid=spartanntp

No where near as much. I admit there are lies told by the media too but Donnie's lies are on another level and, as I say, things you can check in less than a minute. I think a ten year old would think they couldnt get away with some of the lies Donnie tells.

lime · 23-06-2018, 10:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Kazanne

I also think the media and oppositions are liars aswell,so much fake news and manipulation, a good example is here
,the girl was NOT separated from her mom,more lies from the press.
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world...cid=spartanntp

You know what ...when I seen that image ..never once did I think that was DT telling that wee one she wasn't wellcome....the pic was showing hw under Trump....brown people are not wellcome.........jeez this new version of Christianity....not something I know

Beso · 23-06-2018, 10:45 AM

Fans...hes not the bloody world cup fgs.

GiRTh · 23-06-2018, 10:56 AM

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Originally Posted by parmnion

Fans...hes not the bloody world cup fgs.

I think its quite accurate to call them fans as opposed to supporters.

user104658 · 23-06-2018, 12:37 PM

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Originally Posted by parmnion

Fans...hes not the bloody world cup fgs.

I'd normally agree... but "fan" is short for "fanatic", so in the case of Trump supporters, it seems like the most accurate word to be honest.

Tom4784 · 23-06-2018, 11:06 AM

Wasn't it revealed that Trump basically spoke over a thousand lies in his official capacity as President in his first six months? It's ridiculous.

Alf · 23-06-2018, 11:21 AM

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Wasn't it revealed that Trump basically spoke over a thousand lies in his official capacity as President in his first six months? It's ridiculous.

Who was counting, Diane Abbott?

GiRTh · 23-06-2018, 11:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Alf

Who was counting, Diane Abbott?

GiRTh · 23-06-2018, 11:21 AM

Thats probably true. last count he'd reached 3000 in 466 days.

https://edition.cnn.com/2018/05/01/p...000/index.html

Tom4784 · 23-06-2018, 01:59 PM

Dehumanisation, it's sad how far we've slipped in such a short time. Can you remember the story from a few years ago of the immigrant crisis and the child that washed up dead on the shore? That led to so much compassion and empathy towards the plight of immigrants but if that were to happen today, you know people would not be sympathetic at all because we're being told that these people are second class people, that they are vermin.

People are justifying this child abuse by saying it's the parents' fault or even doubting it exists as it's been the case in this thread. It's honestly ****ed how we are so willing to repeat mistakes and actions that should never be repeated. Humanity is ****ed.

People will be pulling for firing squads at the borders next. It just goes to show that, no matter how much progress we make, it's so ****ing easy to slide back when one moron convinces a bunch of other morons that his lies are more important than reality.

Kizzy · 23-06-2018, 02:08 PM

Remember I tried a thread about that... it got closed.
Dehumanisation is as prevalent today as it ever was.

Kazanne · 23-06-2018, 02:10 PM

Whilst I don't condone parting families,I do understand the notion if you break the law,you don't take your kids to prison with you and effectively the people trying to get in illegally are breaking the law.If you want to keep your family together go to the country legally or somewhere else.They can't be using kids to break any laws.

Tom4784 · 23-06-2018, 02:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Kazanne

Whilst I don't condone parting families,I do understand the notion if you break the law,you don't take your kids to prison with you and effectively the people trying to get in illegally are breaking the law.If you want to keep your family together go to the country legally or somewhere else.They can't be using kids to break any laws.

This is what I'm talking about really.

You're pushing the idea that these people are using their kids for a free citizenship when that's rarely, if ever, the case.

These people know they are taking a risk and if legal immigration is not an option then how desperate must their situation be to take those risks? Too many people are so quick to believe the 'Immigrants just want to sponge off benefits lol' spin that they close themselves to the truth. These are mostly desperate people doing what they can for their families.

It's not hardened criminals or smugglers that are being subjected to this, it's innocent children and families who just want a chance.

Beso · 23-06-2018, 04:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Dezzy

This is what I'm talking about really.

You're pushing the idea that these people are using their kids for a free citizenship when that's rarely, if ever, the case.

These people know they are taking a risk and if legal immigration is not an option then how desperate must their situation be to take those risks? Too many people are so quick to believe the 'Immigrants just want to sponge off benefits lol' spin that they close themselves to the truth. These are mostly desperate people doing what they can for their families.

It's not hardened criminals or smugglers that are being subjected to this, it's innocent children and families who just want a chance.

The reason they come is because of the fairy tale ending people who have slipped the net portrait....

Post your proof about the rest or shut ya gums.

Tom4784 · 23-06-2018, 09:22 PM

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Originally Posted by parmnion

The reason they come is because of the fairy tale ending people who have slipped the net portrait....

Post your proof about the rest or shut ya gums.

People who offer nothing in the way of a counter argument except for 'WHERE'S UR PROOF' have nothing left to say.

If you want proof, here's your proof.