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Old 15-04-2023, 10:41 AM #201
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we have a monarchy, so we should have a coronation on change over. It's probably a bit over the top, but its one of the only things the UK actually does well
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we have a monarchy, so we should have a coronation on change over. It's probably a bit over the top, but its one of the only things the UK actually does well

Yes, but so many can not afford, an event.
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So what, they get a day off, no-one is asking them to spend money
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The entire thing is extremely tasteless and out of touch, when most of the country is facing financial hardship, shoving the royal families personal wealth (which isn’t being used to afford this show) is ridiculous
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The entire thing is extremely tasteless and out of touch, when most of the country is facing financial hardship, shoving the royal families personal wealth (which isn’t being used to afford this show) is ridiculous

On the otherhand it lifts many a spirit...brings communities together..gives everyone a day off work and takes people away from everyday life.

The world loves the pomp and ceremony...and we deliver it in leaps and bounds.
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It’s not like we would have a windfall instead of a coronation ....
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On the otherhand it lifts many a spirit...brings communities together..gives everyone a day off work and takes people away from everyday life.

The world loves the pomp and ceremony...and we deliver it in leaps and bounds.
Yeah, nothing lifts the spirits quite like a government that says it can’t afford to help people live a basic, decent existence, pay endless amounts of millions for a couple that has a personal wealth of hundreds of millions, to be paraded around the streets as a sideshow for the poor people to worship
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Yeah, nothing lifts the spirits quite like a government that says it can’t afford to help people live a basic, decent existence, pay endless amounts of millions for a couple that has a personal wealth of hundreds of millions, to be paraded around the streets as a sideshow for the poor people to worship
This post really made me think.
Because what you say is totally accurate.
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Yeah, nothing lifts the spirits quite like a government that says it can’t afford to help people live a basic, decent existence, pay endless amounts of millions for a couple that has a personal wealth of hundreds of millions, to be paraded around the streets as a sideshow for the poor people to worship


Are you talking about the poor people who choose to travel to London to be part of the historic celebrations whilst being forced to wave flags and worship their King???…
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Are you talking about the poor people who choose to travel to London to be part of the historic celebrations whilst being forced to wave flags and worship their King???…
Yes, because they’ve been groomed to believe it’s acceptable that a struggling society is lorded over by incredibly wealthy people, kept by the government
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Yes, because they’ve been groomed to believe it’s acceptable that a struggling society is lorded over by incredibly wealthy people, kept by the government
In January King Charles said the 900 million that would be made a year from leasing sites on the crown estate sites should go to the wider community and not go into funding the monarchy

The monarchy brings in much more money than it costs to fund it.

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Yeah, nothing lifts the spirits quite like a government that says it can’t afford to help people live a basic, decent existence, pay endless amounts of millions for a couple that has a personal wealth of hundreds of millions, to be paraded around the streets as a sideshow for the poor people to worship
You haven't a clue. The Monarchy bring much more money into the country than they cost.
- ‘the royals have an unusual agreement with the British government—an agreement that likely makes British citizens' tax bills cheaper, not more expensive.
This is due to a deal originally cut in 1760 by King George III, allowing the British government to reap the revenues from the royal family's vast private property, called the Crown Estate, while giving them their taxpayer-funded stipend in return.
In total, these properties brought £486.9 million, or $671.9 million, in revenue in 2021. In contrast, the royal family's taxpayer-funded expenses, in the form of a "sovereign grant," totaled only $118.5 million that year, thus netting the British government a profit of almost $550 million in 2021 dollars.
Were the monarchy to be retired, this deal would likely end, allowing the royal family to retain the whole profits from the Crown Estate.
[From ‘What would happen to the U.K. balance sheet if the monarchy were retired?’]
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Bring back the guilotine for harry. Make it the new grand national or nations event.

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never go that far back.
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The left would allow this. I vote corbyn.

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Ok….
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Well its pretty obvious why the number of engagements has fallen over a number of years with the overdue retirement of Prince Philip, the ageing Queen in ill health, the bunking off of Harry and Megs and Prince Andrew kept out of sight. They were/are down 5 people.
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You haven't a clue. The Monarchy bring much more money into the country than they cost.
- ‘the royals have an unusual agreement with the British government—an agreement that likely makes British citizens' tax bills cheaper, not more expensive.
This is due to a deal originally cut in 1760 by King George III, allowing the British government to reap the revenues from the royal family's vast private property, called the Crown Estate, while giving them their taxpayer-funded stipend in return.
In total, these properties brought £486.9 million, or $671.9 million, in revenue in 2021. In contrast, the royal family's taxpayer-funded expenses, in the form of a "sovereign grant," totaled only $118.5 million that year, thus netting the British government a profit of almost $550 million in 2021 dollars.
Were the monarchy to be retired, this deal would likely end, allowing the royal family to retain the whole profits from the Crown Estate.
[From ‘What would happen to the U.K. balance sheet if the monarchy were retired?’]

"They make obscene revenue off of the vast amounts of private land they own as part of their wealth-hoarding and they give that money back to the country so long as we validate them as an active monarchy ... if we stop doing that they'll keep all of it for themselves."

Doesn't paint the best picture when you phrase it slightly differently, does it Jet?
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The palace of Versailles is the most visited attraction in Europe, it attracts endless amounts of people and money, the palaces in Britain aren’t anywhere close to being on the same level and what’s the difference? Ours are inhabited by the biggest scroungers in the country, abolish the monarchy, open up all the palaces and you can double the revenue they make by tourists paying to come and tour the homes of the longest reigning monarch in our history, sorted, the apprentice here I come
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"They make obscene revenue off of the vast amounts of private land they own as part of their wealth-hoarding and they give that money back to the country so long as we validate them as an active monarchy ... if we stop doing that they'll keep all of it for themselves."
You’re joking! Scandalous!
And there would be no more pesky engagements, charity work and ‘grin and bear it’ diplomatic relations with other more worthy mega rich heads of state.

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The palace of Versailles is the most visited attraction in Europe, it attracts endless amounts of people and money, the palaces in Britain aren’t anywhere close to being on the same level and what’s the difference? Ours are inhabited by the biggest scroungers in the country, abolish the monarchy, open up all the palaces and you can double the revenue they make by tourists paying to come and tour the homes of the longest reigning monarch in our history, sorted, the apprentice here I come
I think not...

Please make a donation and help the Palace of Versailles.

https://en.chateauversailles.fr/news...-of-versailles

All profits are reinvested in the running and upkeep of the Palace and its estate.

Opening up all the Royal Palaces would be disastrous, it would lose money, not make it.

You’re fired!
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