[GoldHeart]

Fingers crossed we're getting back to some normality

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by Cherie

75% of first jabs give to adults over 18 now



50% fully vaccinated

It’s a fabulous figure but it still leaves millions upon millions of over 18’s still unprotected and it’s even hitting under 18’s now


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[Strictly Jake]

Just had the Pfizer

[bots]

That took some balls after what happened Jake. Respect

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by Strictly Jake

Just had the Pfizer

Excellent ... I’ve had both Pfizer jabs .. just a headache after the first ... the second three weeks ago has cured my frozen shoulder ( had pain for about 5 years ) before that second jab !

Now she stuck it in extremity high - on my shoulder .
I’m wondering if she got distracted

Can’t complain though - just hope it has completely cured it somehow


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[bots]

both my injections were really high up. I really had to pull my tee shirt sleeve up both times. I would say it was closer to a shoulder injection than on the arm

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

both my injections were really high up. I really had to pull my tee shirt sleeve up both times. I would say it was closer to a shoulder injection than on the arm

Yes exactly !?!?

My first was far lower down in the normal place ..

How odd


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[Zizu]

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[user104658]

Originally Posted by Zizu

Yes exactly !?!?

My first was far lower down in the normal place ..

How odd


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Most vaccines are injected into the deltoid muscle (shoulder) because it’s the largest arm muscle and takes up quite a big area, so long as it goes into the muscle somewhere it’s fine. But there will be swelling at the injection site so as I think I said when you mentioned this before with your shoulder, it’s possible the higher up one caused inflammation that put pressure on your shoulder joint and eased the pain there.

Funnily enough, I had the opposite with my second one - the swelling actually popped my shoulder slightly for a couple of days, it wasn’t sitting properly in the socket and quite achey.

That sounds worse than it is really; I have a crack in my left shoulder socket from an injury as a teen that never healed properly, so it’s not uncommon for it to sit “slightly out” anyway.

[Nicky91]

good, i'm not a complete anti-vaxxer


i just don't think i need the vaccine, since i'm not a active socializing person



i'm not a selfish person, i of course want everyone else (whom are more socializing people than me) to take the vaccine, or at least the right vaccine



as for ''me embarrassing myself'' what Bots tells me, well i had been coping with quite some stress thinking about wether or not i should vaccinate and when stressed i can say all sorts of stupid s**t

so it feels like a big relief now i made that final decision and it is my own personal choice to not get the vaccine





@Jake, good on you for still getting the vaccine, despite the bad news around you, indeed respect, good because you definitely need that protection with the dangers for you at work

[Cherie]

Just 1 in 100 deaths in the last month has been covid related ......

[Zizu]

Good Morning Britain survey results:-

A survey for GMB has found that 1 in 5 18-29 years olds will either refuse to take the vaccine when offered or are undecided.

Ryan Mark Parsons says under 30s 'don't have the right' to go to pubs and restaurants if they don't have the Covid-19 vaccine


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[user104658]

Originally Posted by Zizu

Good Morning Britain survey results:-

A survey for GMB has found that 1 in 5 18-29 years olds will either refuse to take the vaccine when offered or are undecided.

Ryan Mark Parsons says under 30s 'don't have the right' to go to pubs and restaurants if they don't have the Covid-19 vaccine


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To be fair, 80% uptake in 18-29's isn't terrible and is actually better than I would have thought.

[bots]

i thought in that age group it would be under 50%. 80% is blinking marvelous

[Cherie]

80% uptake in a cohort that is not affected in the main is fantastic

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by Cherie

80% uptake in a cohort that is not affected in the main is fantastic

They are effected by the Indian variant though , aren’t they ?


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[bots]

young people in the main don't give much of a crap about their own safety. That's why so many youngsters started smoking and regularly drink sufficient quantities of alcohol to poison themselves without a moments thought

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Zizu

They are effected by the Indian variant though , aren’t they ?


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Are they? not seen any great evidence of that tbh, 20 youngsters have died, how many had underlying conditions? the answer is we have no idea!

[bots]

i think we have to be pragmatic. The infection rate in the majority of places in the UK now is practically zero. We have a handful of hotspots that are being surge tested and vaccinated at a rapid rate of knotts. We are in a completely different position to what we were in even at Christmas

It's right to be cautious of course, but there are serious grounds for optimism now too

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Zizu

They are effected by the Indian variant though , aren’t they ?


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In increased numbers, it has been suggested, not even statistically confirmed. It's worth remembering that a 100%, 200%... even 300% increase in risk for under-30's would still result in an absolutely tiny risk compared to the at-risk categories of 50+ (medium) 70+ (high) and 80+ (very high).

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Cherie

Are they? not seen any great evidence of that tbh, 20 youngsters have died, how many had underlying conditions? the answer is we have no idea!

I think a lot of the data is coming from India and while I wouldn't say "ignore it", I think it's worth remembering that there are multiple other factors at play and (importantly) likely orders-of-magnitude higher numbers of asymptomatic cases there that they don't know about. The situation is so different that you really can't take the data from somewhere like India and extrapolate it to the UK... we just have to "wait and see".

[bots]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

I think a lot of the data is coming from India and while I wouldn't say "ignore it", I think it's worth remembering that there are multiple other factors at play and (importantly) likely orders-of-magnitude higher numbers of asymptomatic cases there that they don't know about. The situation is so different that you really can't take the data from somewhere like India and extrapolate it to the UK... we just have to "wait and see".

the worst case scenario is that they need to vaccinate younger age groups. We have all the tools to fight this virus now

[Nicky91]

Originally Posted by Zizu

Good Morning Britain survey results:-

A survey for GMB has found that 1 in 5 18-29 years olds will either refuse to take the vaccine when offered or are undecided.

Ryan Mark Parsons says under 30s 'don't have the right' to go to pubs and restaurants if they don't have the Covid-19 vaccine


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aw LOL, as if stupid pubs and restaurants are so important

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by Cherie

Are they? not seen any great evidence of that tbh, 20 youngsters have died, how many had underlying conditions? the answer is we have no idea!

I’m sure I put up some stats from Sky a week or so ago showing the hardest hit section were 18 -30’s ( Indian variant)


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[user104658]

Originally Posted by Zizu

I’m sure I put up some stats from Sky a week or so ago showing the hardest hit section were 18 -30’s ( Indian variant)


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Most cases, not cases with the highest severity. Risk still increases with age by huge margins.