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Sky News Press Review just revealed that there are ‘currently’ 4,000 different Covid19 variants across the world !!!

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I mean, its a nice thought that the economy could just spring back, but a lot more people don't really have any money to spend.
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I mean, it's a nice thought that the economy could just spring back, but a lot more people don't really have any money to spend.

Yes everything
depends on the March Budget.


Rishi Sunak
in many headlines today

[Rishi Sunak 'is plotting £6billion stealth
tax raid by freezing personal allowances
in next month's Budget'
Chancellor may abandon rises to £12,500
and £50,000 income tax thresholds
This could see millions of
Britons paying higher
tax rate on more of their income
Treasury insider working on March 3
Budget described move as 'quite logical']

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...-tax-raid.html



[COVID-19: Economy suffers deepest annual slump
since 1709 Great Frost
Chancellor Rishi Sunak pledges further support
for the COVID-hit economy as large parts
remain in hibernation after a torrid 2020.]


https://news.sky.com/story/covid-19-...frost-12215651
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Yes everything
depends on the March Budget.


Rishi Sunak
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[Rishi Sunak 'is plotting £6billion stealth
tax raid by freezing personal allowances
in next month's Budget'
Chancellor may abandon rises to £12,500
and £50,000 income tax thresholds
This could see millions of
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tax rate on more of their income
Treasury insider working on March 3
Budget described move as 'quite logical']

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...-tax-raid.html



[COVID-19: Economy suffers deepest annual slump
since 1709 Great Frost
Chancellor Rishi Sunak pledges further support
for the COVID-hit economy as large parts
remain in hibernation after a torrid 2020.]


https://news.sky.com/story/covid-19-...frost-12215651
Its inevitable that taxes will rise now for years....all this cash has to come from somewhere.

Anyone who has been working from home during the pandemic can claim some tax relief for this. Its not much but worth claiming before they start hiking up tax.
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So we've been unable to save the elderly with the measures we've been applying, they keep dying. So maybe destroying everybody else's lives isn't worth it?

Like I said before, all this ends when the people have had enough, until then, we continue like this.
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So we've been unable to save the elderly with the measures we've been applying, they keep dying. So maybe destroying everybody else's lives isn't worth it?

Like I said before, all this ends when the people have had enough, until then, we continue like this.
Locking down is to keep hospitals from being overwhelmed in the first instance
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Think I read yesterday the Kent variant will be the dominant one globally in time, if they can tweak the vaccines to cover most of the rest then like flu people will continue to die from it but hospitals will not be full of covid patients and stretched to the max
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I mean, its a nice thought that the economy could just spring back, but a lot more people don't really have any money to spend.
I don't know why they think all the extra money, even for those of us who haven't seen an income drop, has been stored up in a savings account. It's such a "wealthy" mindset. For us normies who saw our bank balances starting to go up because of lack of things to spend it on... we said "yaaaay" and went straight to Amazon... surely? Like yes I've had more "spare" cash at the end of the month this year than ever before in my life but is it sitting waiting to be spent when everything opens up? NO! Mr Bezos and Tesco has all of it . There was one month where I bought a £350 gaming monitor, didn't like the ghosting because it was 60hz, so the next month I just... bought another one for £370... and gave the first one to my 11 year old . Same happens at the supermarket - I go in for a few bits, but it's like the 25th of the month so we're both getting paid within a week, so I end up spending £150 on "whatever" just cos. I have literally zero savings.

Basically what I'm saying is... I think they imagine that people have money waiting to be spent... that is actually long gone. If they want that cash they're going to have to do what they should have been doing all along - properly taxing online retail.
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Think I read yesterday the Kent variant will be the dominant one globally in time, if they can tweak the vaccines to cover most of the rest then like flu people will continue to die from it but hospitals will not be full of covid patients and stretched to the max
Most likely (long term) they'll have to tweak annually and roll out to the elderly and vulnerable, but my strong suspicion is that once everyone has had "some variant or other" (either a natural infection or any of the vaccines) we'll start to see severe cases drop significantly, even if people are still regularly getting it.
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Most likely (long term) they'll have to tweak annually and roll out to the elderly and vulnerable, but my strong suspicion is that once everyone has had "some variant or other" (either a natural infection or any of the vaccines) we'll start to see severe cases drop significantly, even if people are still regularly getting it.
I think once this year is out the way things will be much better, and the good news is that the world is much more prepared for future pandemics if they occur. I even expect new preventatives for the common cold to start appearing. The level of research over the last year will have huge payoffs for other diseases
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Think I read yesterday the Kent variant will be the dominant one globally in time, if they can tweak the vaccines to cover most of the rest then like flu people will continue to die from it but hospitals will not be full of covid patients and stretched to the max


I’m sure I heard one bloke say that they’re confident they can adapt the vaccines but they won’t be ready to distribute until Autumn ... I don’t think we can wait 7 to 8 months though


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Most likely (long term) they'll have to tweak annually and roll out to the elderly and vulnerable, but my strong suspicion is that once everyone has had "some variant or other" (either a natural infection or any of the vaccines) we'll start to see severe cases drop significantly, even if people are still regularly getting it.

Yes Great Points
some stay in hospital for months
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Some Good reporting on SkyNewsHD
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Netherlands todays numbers

4.385 new cases (69 less than yesterday but still above week average)

1.904 total hospitalisations (48 less than yesterday)

534 total on ICU (3 less than yesterday)

519 care homes with a recent new covid infection (compared to 598 one week ago)
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I don't know why they think all the extra money, even for those of us who haven't seen an income drop, has been stored up in a savings account. It's such a "wealthy" mindset. For us normies who saw our bank balances starting to go up because of lack of things to spend it on... we said "yaaaay" and went straight to Amazon... surely? Like yes I've had more "spare" cash at the end of the month this year than ever before in my life but is it sitting waiting to be spent when everything opens up? NO! Mr Bezos and Tesco has all of it . There was one month where I bought a £350 gaming monitor, didn't like the ghosting because it was 60hz, so the next month I just... bought another one for £370... and gave the first one to my 11 year old . Same happens at the supermarket - I go in for a few bits, but it's like the 25th of the month so we're both getting paid within a week, so I end up spending £150 on "whatever" just cos. I have literally zero savings.

Basically what I'm saying is... I think they imagine that people have money waiting to be spent... that is actually long gone. If they want that cash they're going to have to do what they should have been doing all along - properly taxing online retail.
You wouldn’t be the best example though

We have saved a fair bit especially as we had to cancel 3 holidays last year
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