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Zac Goldsmith
Conservative who lost his seat in Putney
has been sent to the House Of the Lords
as he is keeping his job as Environment Minister.
Lord Goldsmith.

Do not Forget Blair did the same
in New Labour


Ref: ITV1HD London.

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Zac Goldsmith
Conservative who lost his seat in Putney
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as he is keeping his job as Environment Minister.
Lord Goldsmith.

Do not Forget Blair did the same
in New Labour


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Zac Goldsmith
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as he is keeping his job as Environment Minister.
Lord Goldsmith.

Do not Forget Blair did the same
in New Labour


Ref: ITV1HD London.

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https://www.independent.co.uk/news/u...-a9253991.html
That was years ago. Unfortunately Arista is always posting old news.
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That was years ago. Unfortunately Arista is always posting old news.
no its New News
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no its New News
New labour is new news? I post vids of Farage saying scrap the nhs and you say 2013 is too old.
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New labour is new news? I post vids of Farage saying scrap the nhs and you say 2013 is too old.
If it benefits his agenda, it's okay. If it doesn't then there will be a reason to discount it somewhere godamnit!
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New labour is new news? I post vids of Farage saying scrap the nhs and you say 2013 is too old.
Thats a relevant side point
on how so many get job transfers
to the House of Lords.

All you need to try
is add a date with old videos you post


Lord Zac Goldsmith
is the main point and that is New TODAY

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It is, of course, palpable nonsense to suggest that Boris Johnson’s government is further to
the right that its recent predecessors, and even more ridiculous to claim it’s more
Thatcherite than Thatcher. This all hails from the “Everyone I disagree with is Hitler” school
of Leftist thought.



https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics...g-predictable/

good article about insulting voters
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It is, of course, palpable nonsense to suggest that Boris Johnson’s government is further to
the right that its recent predecessors, and even more ridiculous to claim it’s more
Thatcherite than Thatcher. This all hails from the “Everyone I disagree with is Hitler” school
of Leftist thought.



https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics...g-predictable/

good article about insulting voters
So...a phrase in common parlance to describe voters voting against their own interests is bad, but the strawmanning of the left is good?

Since the election, Johnson has gone back on his pledge to protect workers rights in his deal, he's now put conditions on his hourly wage pledge, rips up his pledge to protect migrant children, is being promoted by the far right, he's about to redistrict voting areas to make sure the tories remain in power. All perfectly normal though.
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So...a phrase in common parlance to describe voters voting against their own interests is bad, but the strawmanning of the left is good?

Since the election, Johnson has gone back on his pledge to protect workers rights in his deal, he's now put conditions on his hourly wage pledge, rips up his pledge to protect migrant children, is being promoted by the far right, he's about to redistrict voting areas to make sure the tories remain in power. All perfectly normal though.
Johnson won and won by a barrelload - people like him and what he is doing, you dont like him and will try to find anything possible to be negative, at some point slim you have to accept your views are not popular and people dont agree with your worldview

and move on

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Johnson won and won by a barrelload - people like him and what he is doing, you dont like him and will try to find anything possible to be negative, at some point slim you have to accept your views are not popular and people dont agree with your worldview

and move on
I don't disagree with most of that, but the fact people like what he's doing says absolutely nothing about whether it will help their lives, and I'm not trying to find anything to be negative about, he's doing these things out in the open.

I've moved on, I said the day after the election how badly I misjudged the public. Again, that says nothing about the reality of what Johnson is doing.

Finally, telling everyone to act like a serf and subjugate themselves at the feet of Boris seems like the antithesis of what I would expect from a political tough talker like your good self..
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It is, of course, palpable nonsense to suggest that Boris Johnson’s government is further to
the right that its recent predecessors, and even more ridiculous to claim it’s more
Thatcherite than Thatcher. This all hails from the “Everyone I disagree with is Hitler” school
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https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics...g-predictable/

good article about insulting voters
Good post, and interesting article.
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Good post, and interesting article.
It's only interesting if you're subscribed.
It's not a good post, it's a very skewed post that doesn't examine any reasoning why that corellation has been drawn at all.

Could it not be classes as 'palpable nonsense' that there is a leftist school of thought that believes that everyone who disagrees with them is Hitler? :/

This is a very hipocritical post that attempt to pass wild accusations off as debate.
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It's only interesting if you're subscribed.
It's not a good post, it's a very skewed post that doesn't examine any reasoning why that corellation has been drawn at all.

Could it not be classes as 'palpable nonsense' that there is a leftist school of thought that believes that everyone who disagrees with them is Hitler? :/

This is a very hipocritical post that attempt to pass wild accusations off as debate.
Yes its Far to Expensive to buy the Telegraph online.
I buy the paper.
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The PM was Live in Parliament
pushing his New Brexit Deal through.

Sad Corbyn is talking now

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....hmmmm no, it doesn’t appear that ‘everyone I disagree with is Hitler’ is a widely known and acknowledged leftist school philosophy...I’m thinking that one might be more the ...keep insulting people who disgaree with you/type...
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They sure did..which is why the labour party got the biggest kick in its balls it's ever had..yet there he is, the cause of it all...still clinging onto the tiniest slither of power he has, which was the only thing that mattered to him.

But we saw through that as well and sent him on his way..now do the decent thing Jeremy and **** of to the backbench where you belong, plotting against your own party.
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