[bots]

Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper

Not true. Israel have accused 0.04% of the only agency providing any aid to Gaza, of something to do wi9th Hamas. No facts, no details, just an Israeli accusation a couple of days after the ICJ called them out.

Can't be sure of anything, but I'm pretty confident that this is a load of manufactured propaganda bollocks.

it's a headline to change the direction of the news. Our politicians were in complete silence when the ICJ ruled, but as soon as Israel makes an allegation, they've suddenly found their voices again.

US and UK immediately stopped providing aid. This is only in the interests of those happy to watch the genocide continue.

germany, canada and a few others too. What makes you an expert on the subject more than me to allow you to call me out on it, when, quite frankly, you don't have a clue and are just saying it because (i will put it mildly) you don't "like" israel

Just to put it in context, i believe you were one who said that Israel were making it up when hamas started this latest round off by attacking Israel

[Oliver_W]

Israel are always in the wrong, and Hamas are always in the right

Either way, this instance shouldn't be used as a stick with which to beat the UN as a whole.

[The Slim Reaper]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

germany, canada and a few others too. What makes you an expert on the subject more than me to allow you to call me out on it, when, quite frankly, you don't have a clue and are just saying it because (i will put it mildly) you don't "like" israel

Just to put it in context, i believe you were one who said that Israel were making it up when hamas started this latest round off by attacking Israel

I didn't call you out, you big weirdo. I replied to your post about the topic, and you got in your feelings because of what happened in the migrants thread.

I don't know what you're on about with the last bit, so if you can quote the posts, then that would be helpful.

I've never said I'm an expert, but I have been talking about this situation for a long time, Bots, and your posts show you started paying attention on October 7th.

Completely made up being victimised, so you can feign your outrage

[The Slim Reaper]

[Liam-]

Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper

Just a coincidence I’m sure

[arista]

[arista]

[arista]

[bots]

Britain is ready to bring forward the moment when it formally recognises a Palestinian state, the foreign secretary has suggested.

Lord Cameron said Palestinians had to be given a political horizon to encourage peace in the Middle East.

He is beginning his fourth visit to the region since being appointed foreign secretary in November.

The UK has a responsibility to set out what a Palestinian state would look like, he told a Westminster reception.

The Palestinian people would have to be shown "irreversible progress" towards a two-state solution, Lord Cameron said.

"As that happens, we - with allies - will look at the issue of recognising a Palestinian state, including at the United Nations," he told the Conservative Middle East Council.

"That could be one of the things that helps to make this process irreversible."

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-68137220

[user104658]

Two-state solution still leaves "The Jerusalem Question" up in the air and there will never be anything resembling peace then. The only realistic solution is three-state. Israel, Palestine and Jerusalem as an independent city-state (like Vatican City) with international support and funding; neither Israeli nor Palestinian.

[bots]

it's a correct conclusion that unless they recognise palestine as a state there will always be problems. Of course it doesn't therefore mean that there won't be problems once recognised, thats way too simplistic

[user104658]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

it's a correct conclusion that unless they recognise palestine as a state there will always be problems. Of course it doesn't therefore mean that there won't be problems once recognised, thats way too simplistic

Piffle, there's no precedent for countries fighting over border and boundary disputes!

In all seriousness, any two-state solution is going to need a substantial DMZ. The Korea situation isn't and has never been ideal, but the DMZ mitigates a LOT of the potential problems.

[The Slim Reaper]

So....yeah.

[bots]

is there a magic number where it becomes acceptable for the UN to be involved in it?

That seems to be what you are implying, which obviously is some twisted kind of thinking

[user104658]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

is there a magic number where it becomes acceptable for the UN to be involved in it?

That seems to be what you are implying, which obviously is some twisted kind of thinking

There's obviously a level where it's a clear inflitration/high levels of corruption and a level where it's incidental. Investigations should be done either way but, for some appropriate sense of scale here, 6 out of 30,000 is 0.02% of UN employees.

And it's prident to ask questions in a situation where there's a clear reason for the accuser to want to discredit the accused.

Similar of course happened with Trump and the WHO (and ultimately the NHS, and healthcare staff all over the world) with Covid.

[The Slim Reaper]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

is there a magic number where it becomes acceptable for the UN to be involved in it?

That seems to be what you are implying, which obviously is some twisted kind of thinking

Why do you keep trying to put words into my mouth? I asked you a follow up question the last time you did it at the top of this page, and you haven't bothered to reply, so if you want to have a l0ok and provide the proof of what you claimed I said, then that would be great.

A reminder of what i wrote that originally caused your jimmys to be fully rustled (shout out to legend killer).

Not true. Israel have accused 0.04% of the only agency providing any aid to Gaza, of something to do wi9th Hamas. No facts, no details, just an Israeli accusation a couple of days after the ICJ called them out.

Can't be sure of anything, but I'm pretty confident that this is a load of manufactured propaganda bollocks.

it's a headline to change the direction of the news. Our politicians were in complete silence when the ICJ ruled, but as soon as Israel makes an allegation, they've suddenly found their voices again.

US and UK immediately stopped providing aid. This is only in the interests of those happy to watch the genocide continue.

This sky article also accuses Israel of making accusations without proof, then you ignored the vid I posted of the former Israeli official saying that UNRWA needed to be destroyed. To add on to that, as Israel is busy trying to ethnically cleanse the Palestinians out of existence, do you think it's prudent that we accept whatever they are saying at face value? We did that, and immediately harmed the Palestinian's by removing funding for their aid. Who do you think that benefits the most? Seems like harming both UNRWA and Palestine is a win-win for Israel.

[Livia]

Palestinians aren't dancing in the streets anymore, and firing their AKs in the air, that's for sure

[arista]

David Cameron
now backs the UN Troops taking control
of Palestine

[Livia]

Originally Posted by arista

David Cameron
now backs the UN Troops taking control
of Palestine

To observe or keep the peace? Either way they are, and will always be, pointless. A bit like Cameron himself.

[arista]

Originally Posted by Livia

To observe or keep the peace? Either way they are, and will always be, pointless. A bit like Cameron himself.

To Keep Peace

[bots]

there was a peace keeping force in place when i was young. All that happened was that the peace keeping force were killed until they pulled out. They couldn't do anything to protect themselves and ended up being killed by one method or another unable to fight back

[arista]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

there was a peace keeping force in place when i was young. All that happened was that the peace keeping force were killed until they pulled out. They couldn't do anything to protect themselves and ended up being killed by one method or another unable to fight back

It can not be that version.

[bots]

Originally Posted by arista

It can not be that version.

what countries get put in the peace keeping force, the uk, europe, usa, canada etc etc can't be in it without being targets. Israel would never allow an african, russian or arab peace keeping force. Who is left to do it?

[arista]

Israel

will not control it
That is the point they are making

[bots]

Originally Posted by arista

Israel

will not control it
That is the point they are making

you can't have a peace keeping force without agreement of the sides. You dont seem to understand how these things work. If you force something on them that the combatants don't like, it wont stop any war