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Old Yesterday, 02:01 PM   #151
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Racism, discrimination in any form whatsoever should have no place in these modern times

i strive for more equality in the world, where everyone respects each other regardless of colour, religion, class, disability
can you tell us more about the striving aspect

what are you doing to achieve this?
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It's ignorance beyond compare and shows a complete lack of empathy to act like white privilege doesn't exist and it's hilariously privileged in itself to deny that your own privilege exists.

Fact, being born white in most places in the west will lead to an easier life than a non-white person in the same situation. Especially in America. You can deny it, you can pretend otherwise but delusion doesn't change the facts.
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Old Yesterday, 02:06 PM   #153
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can you tell us more about the striving aspect

what are you doing to achieve this?
i can't do anything on my own with all honesty


but i can have dreams of a better world someday with more equality
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Tell me a time, post a link, when 'white privilege' helped a lower/working class white person.

It's a lot more about class, a lot more!
Yes I kind of agree, it is a lot lot lot about class. You said it yourself, 70% of the people you grew up with were black. Black people are disproportionally affected by class struggles and poverty. That isn’t to say that white people arent, economical class as an axis of oppression can affect anyone and it’s valid to discuss it, but simply bringing up class struggle to shut down discussion about racism doesn’t seem very fair. I’m empathetic to the fact that you grew up as someone who was poor and it was very ****ing hard, so why can’t you be empathetic towards people who deal with racism? Why do you feel the need to try and shut down or undermine these discussions?

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Old Yesterday, 02:14 PM   #155
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i can't do anything on my own with all honesty


but i can have dreams of a better world someday with more equality
How wonderful it is that nobody need wait a single moment before starting to improve the world.

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The whole 'and what are you doing' argument is truly weak cop out way of devaluing someone's views without putting the effort in to form a cohesive counter argument.

What people do or don't do is irrelevant to the conversation and to use that line to try to shut down opinions just shows a complete lack of wit and intellect from those that rely on such lines in arguments.
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Old Yesterday, 02:22 PM   #157
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You be the change you want to see in the world
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Yeah. And when we peacefully march in the streets, you will tell us how we are scaring you and dividing the nation, right?
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Yeah. And when we peacefully march in the streets, you will tell us how we are scaring you and dividing the nation, right?
which we have a democratic right to do if we so wish
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How long do you have to have lived somewhere to be classed as indigenous?... I hear arguments in support of ' indigenous' people's. Is there a sliding scale of people afforded more rights based on their traceable heritage?
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which we have a democratic right to do if we so wish
No you don't ... you have no rights to interfere with anyone's right to protest.

You can sit in your prius and winge like your atypical mail reading gammon or karen. But you have no right to prohibit any other citizen excersising their real democratic right.
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Yeah. And when we peacefully march in the streets, you will tell us how we are scaring you and dividing the nation, right?
who is "we" and "you"?
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No you don't ... you have no rights to interfere with anyone's right to protest.

You can sit in your prius and winge like your atypical mail reading gammon or karen. But you have no right to prohibit any other citizen excersising their real democratic right.
as usual you are talking rubbish. It is my democratic right to raise concerns that I may have. Maybe it doesn't fit into your authoritarian ideal, but too bad
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White people will always find an excuse to look down on black people, whenever they speak up about the racism they face, they’re told to turn the other cheek, whenever they talk about the injustices they face they’re told to do as their told and get on with it, they’re dictated to about how they can protest, they protest peacefully and they’re called dividers, there will never be a situation good enough for white people to feel comfortable with black people asserting themselves and their rights and it’s a damn shame
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i can't do anything on my own with all honesty


but i can have dreams of a better world someday with more equality
You can though Nicky and you are.

With what you support and say you support.
You are making your contribution.

Not everyone can be high profile, even by your sharing of your knowledge, experiences and your views on things on here.
You are reaching others.

Never worry about teaching those who'd not be interested in your view or thinking.
If you can even just help to have one other person to re think their positions on issues.

Your striving and your hope for a better World, may then have someone else thinking like you on any said issue.

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When you are accustomed to privilege, equality feels like oppression
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Old Yesterday, 05:39 PM   #167
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1 Corinthians 4:7

For who makes you different from anyone else? What do you have that you did not receive? And if you did receive it, why do you boast as though you did not?
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When you are accustomed to privilege, equality feels like oppression
You're right there - we do live in an age of equality, but some people still carp on about how "oppressed" they are.
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You're right there - we do live in an age of equality, but some people still carp on about how "oppressed" they are.
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as usual you are talking rubbish. It is my democratic right to raise concerns that I may have. Maybe it doesn't fit into your authoritarian ideal, but too bad
Lol.. you think it's your democratic right to chelp.
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White people will always find an excuse to look down on black people, whenever they speak up about the racism they face, they’re told to turn the other cheek, whenever they talk about the injustices they face they’re told to do as their told and get on with it, they’re dictated to about how they can protest, they protest peacefully and they’re called dividers, there will never be a situation good enough for white people to feel comfortable with black people asserting themselves and their rights and it’s a damn shame
Nobody ever got equality by asking for it.
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You're right there - we do live in an age of equality, but some people still carp on about how "oppressed" they are.
It's like you enjoy swinging and missing the point.
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