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24-06-2022, 03:34 PM | #26 | |||
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24-06-2022, 04:30 PM | #27 | |||
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You know that Charly-boy was sleeping with that (married) hussy well before he wed Di ... then during and after their marriage ?? She was an innocent young 19/20 years old girl who thought she’d married her Prince Charming ... She had no idea that she’d simply been selected to be a breeding mare to keep the line going So very , very sad .. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro Last edited by Zizu; 24-06-2022 at 04:32 PM. |
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24-06-2022, 06:26 PM | #28 | |||
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gave a Rare interview to Ch4HDnews recorded this morning, He is standing firm helping the Rwanda nation by being there. |
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24-06-2022, 08:39 PM | #29 | |||
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today with all the Newspaper Press in Rwanda Johnson was asked about his Migrants to the Hotels there and he spoke of how President Biden is planning to send his Overflow of Migrants to Spain Paying them in the same way like he is Clever Reply to the Newspaper reporter. Last edited by arista; 24-06-2022 at 08:40 PM. |
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24-06-2022, 08:44 PM | #30 | |||
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25-06-2022, 02:39 PM | #32 | |||
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Wonder what the chances are of them spit - roasting her !?’! Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro |
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26-06-2022, 07:32 PM | #33 | |||
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Exactly ! Charles was secretly still having an affair with Camilla long before Diana met other blokes. What really upset Diana was she felt powerless, especially when she saw Camilla larger than life at her wedding,must have felt like such a betrayal . They were rubbing it in her face . Charles never married Diana for love ,it was all about having children for the heir of the throne. He just used her . |
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26-06-2022, 07:46 PM | #34 | ||
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27-06-2022, 12:23 AM | #35 | ||
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It isn’t all as cut and dried as that. We have Diana’s account of the marriage (which is the one which she told to Andrew Morton) and which the writer of ‘The Crown’ (an anti - monarchist) used for the series. That is the version most people believe as the ‘true story’. Then we have other author’s books and their biographical accounts of Diana, and of Charles, which all pretty much tally and tell the other side of the story. How Charles was heavily pressured into the marriage by Diana’s grandmother and his own grandmother (The Queen Mother), who were great friends and by Philip, who told him to ‘get on with it’. That, ridiculous as it sounds nowadays, the future King had to marry a girl ‘without a past’ (a virgin really) and as he was 30 years old, there were understandably no suitable girls around that fulfilled that criteria near to his own age. Diana was madly in love with him and, on her own admission, was determined to have him. Charles was flattered and found her ‘jolly and attractive and ‘fun’ and was sure he would ‘fall in love with her’. It wasn’t to be, because they had absolutely nothing in common. In a way, Charles was as much a victim as Diana was. Charles said (as do many other accounts) that he was faithful to Diana for a number of years before he resumed his affair with Camiila. That they had tried to make the marriage work until it was obvious it was irretrievably broken down. Diana places his affair with Camilla resuming some time after the birth of Harry. Diana, in her sad search for true love, had many affairs from then onwards. Unfortunately, some of those men were married (her affair with Will Carling very publically ended his marriage to Julia) and Oliver Hoare’s marriage almost went the same way. I adored Diana, she had many qualities I admired; I was on her side all the way until I looked into it all beyond her own feelings and perspective and I could see it was all just a rather tragic story of 2 human beings going through a marriage and divorce that millions of people have gone through themselves, but without the spotlight being shone on their every move. It isn’t widely reported, but In the year before Diana died, she and Charles had put the past behind them, they became friendly, and not just for the boys sake; Tina Brown, Diana Biographer: At the end of Diana's life, she and Charles were on the best terms they'd been for a very long time. Charles got into the habit of dropping in on her at Kensington Palace and they would have tea and a sort of rueful exchange. They even had some laughs together. It was definitely calming down, the boys were older. They talked about their philanthropies. And she had accepted Camilla [Parker Bowles]. One thing she had finally done was really understand that Camilla was the love of his life, and there was just nothing she could do about it. But she said to me at that lunch that she would go back to Charles in a heartbeat if he wanted her." Diana told her friend Julia Samuels "Charles is the kindest man I have ever known". ………………………………….. It's all so sad. Last edited by jet; 27-06-2022 at 12:31 AM. |
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27-06-2022, 02:10 AM | #36 | |||
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Some interesting ideas in there.. That said the salient points may be false memories / lies ... to make himself look better .. can we really rely on the words of a guy who has been talking to plants since he was a teenager and who happily accepted a suitcases with 3 million in cash from a high ranking official from Qatar .. I think he shares some of his brother Randy Andy’s traits .. both liked the ‘ladies’ and I wouldn’t believe a word either one utters # Prince Charles was said to have been given a total of €3m (£2.6m) during meetings with Sheikh Hamad bin Jassim bin Jaber al-Thani, the former prime minister of Qatar. Prince Charles was said to have been given a total of €3m (£2.6m) during meetings with Sheikh Hamad bin Jassim bin Jaber al-Thani, the former prime minister of Qatar. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro |
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27-06-2022, 02:35 AM | #37 | |||
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3 people in the marriage meaning her , Charles & Camilla Obviously. As usual Charles can do no wrong in some people's mind . We all know he used Diana ..so let's not make excuses or sugar coat it. She was only young when she met him. |
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27-06-2022, 03:51 AM | #38 | ||
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Charles dated one of Diana’s older sisters before dating her, but that didn’t put her off him. Diana was beautiful but she was not without fault Charle’s is no different to thousands of other people who start a relationship get married have kids it goes wrong and they go back to their ex’s. Charle’s like harry and William has had therapy to come to terms with what happened. Last edited by thesheriff443; 27-06-2022 at 03:53 AM. |
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27-06-2022, 05:02 AM | #39 | |||
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Keep defending Charles, it's a lovely colour on you . The excuses made for him are both laughable & ridiculous. |
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27-06-2022, 05:46 AM | #40 | |||
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Diana was no saint. I'm sorry, but it's not a typical reaction to think .... oh my husbands unfaithful to me, i better go out and shag anything on 2 legs and thats exactly what Diana did. She also put way to much responsibility on young William's shoulders
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27-06-2022, 07:18 AM | #41 | ||
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It’s not even making excuses, it’s called life. It’s seems you still think like a child, with he bad she good. |
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27-06-2022, 07:19 AM | #42 | |||
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Well she was a saint until reality set in and she discovered that Charles was obsessed with Camilla ( a married woman with kids) . Even that didn’t stop her doing all that wonderful charity work and caring for others .. ## In April 1987, at the height of the AIDS epidemic, while many turned away and ignored what was happening, Princess Diana opened the UK’s first specialist HIV/AIDS unit at London’s Middlesex Hospital, a space that would exclusively care for patients with the virus. While visiting the unit, she famously noted, 'HIV does not make people dangerous to know. You can shake their hands and give them a hug. Heaven knows they need it. What's more, you can share their homes, their workplaces, and their playgrounds and toys.' For people living with HIV, her comments marked the start of her monumental efforts to see them treated with dignity, respect, and compassion. And, through her actions, she showed everyone else that HIV can’t be passed through day to day contact. Of course, it didn’t change everything overnight and abhorrent stigma and discrimination remain today, but the Princess’s impact was felt worldwide. A bit about ‘the other woman’ . # In 1973, Camilla married British Army officer Andrew Parker Bowles, with whom she has two children. They divorced in 1995. Camilla was periodically romantically involved with Charles both BEFORE and DURING each of their first marriages. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro |
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27-06-2022, 08:03 AM | #43 | |||
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He treated Diana like garbage, there's no getting away from that. The marriage failed ? Hahaha,the marriage was already a mess to begin with. He never cared about her. He just wanted a baby machine & someone on his arm. It was all about himself & the blood line ,had zero to do with love. |
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27-06-2022, 09:32 AM | #44 | ||
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You know nothing of what went on in that relationship so you are talking bollox. |
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27-06-2022, 12:50 PM | #45 | ||
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For anyone interested in a balanced, even - handed but sympathetic account, The Diana Chronicles by Tina Brown, is considered the most accurate bio of Diana ever written. It reveals Diana as a much more complex and fascinating character than many supposed her to be.
{Ten years after Diana's death came the definitive biography of her, informed by 250 interviews from some of those who knew her best. Tina Brown, the former Tatler and Vanity Fair editor, writes the book with her signature wit and attention to style. The Diana Chronicles is a delight to read, infused with Brown's deep understanding of both how the royal family and the media in the U.K. work, and how they coexist.} This extract, relevant to the topic, which I also posted upthread, comes from her book. Quote:
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