[Cybele]

(This post is based off of a comment made on another thread, but I know that some people might ignore the thread being that it was one of 57 thousand started by that person today. So I made it into its own thread.)

Noirin is not a slut. She is not a slag nor is she a *****. Those types of people are not necessarily bad people. They just like to screw a lot of people because they like sex or they are trying to get people to love them or they have daddy issues or whatever. They can be very sweet people who just happen to have sex without knowing someone for very long. This is certainly not a description of Noirin. At least the Noirin we have seen in the house anyway. I can't comment about her life outside the house.

Noirin on the other hand, is 100% into head games. She gets her self image from how she is viewed by others. She even said that herself back when she had to draw on the glasses. She doesn't feel attractive unless she has at least 1 guy wanting to screw her. Sorry, but that is the truth. She has openly stated on several occasions that she uses her sexuality and looks to get what she wants. She has proudly boasted about it, in fact. And that is exactly what she has been doing in the house: manipulating men to receive what she needs whether it be attention, a shoulder to cry upon, a friend when others are shunning her, cuddles, etc. And she always makes sure she has a spare around in case she needs him.

Let's examine the facts, shall we?

1. Men who have been obviously manipulated by her while in the BB house: Sree, Marcus, Siavash. She attempted it on others but was unsuccessful.

2. While giving Sree the hot/cold treatment, she kept Marcus on the back burner as a spare.

3. When Sree was ousted, she moved Marcus to the front burner and started on Siavash.

4. When Siavash started showing interest, she moved Marcus to the back burner and concentrated on Siavash.

5. When Tom entered the house and she found him attractive, she turned on Marcus and tried to concentrate on Tom while keeping Siavash on the back burner.

6. When Tom left the house, she moved Siavash back to primary position while trying to make up with Marcus to have him as a spare.

And let us not forget that if she doesn't like someone, then no one should be able to like them. She told Marcus that he was her best friend yet when they were arguing, she would say the nastiest things about him. Same with every other housemate she has been at odds with. She is very predictable.

So to call Noirin a slut is really insulting to someone who might have a lot of sex but has never tried to break anyone's heart or manipulate a situation to her advantage. Sluts of the world should unite against those who name Noirin as one of their number!

[BBmassive]

[HalfwitFTW]

I agree.

She's not a ho or a slut. Just a very manipulative person.

[Annmarie]

Cor you must have put some thought and effort into that. Why didn't you just write that you hate Noirin.

You seem to have forgotten that fact that Marcus has spoken to Noirin like she is something on the bottom of his shoe.

You have also forgotten to mention that she was actually stalked by Marcus. She didn't really have to do a lot to make him interested in her. he did that himself.

You have also forgotten to add that Noirin has told Marcus time and time again that she only wanted to be friends.

So if you're going to start a thread just to slag off Noirin, you need to get others factors included as well.

[HellShark]

You know you could of just written 'She is a massive ****' instead and would of got the same amount of support.

[Levrone]

wank and boring :P cant be arsed to read sure shes slut lol

[MonkeyDoodle]

Sophie gets with a user and self professed player, which she knew he was, within the first couple of days inside the house. Kris does the dirty with Sophie, big brother hides that fact until Sophie herself says it to Noirin a couple of days ago, and you know they had to have footage of this, but chose to protect sophie and kris.

Yet Noirin only kissed a guy and the guy she kissed is 100% alright with how things are, so no problems between two adults, yet people love sophie and hate noirin.

additionally, pick any friday or saturday night out in the pubs, thousands of girls have a few drinks and may kiss some random guy before they go home, with no intention of ever seeing them again. How many times have we seen this?

the only difference is that Noirin did it inside the bb house. And she may actually like Siavash but could be confused and not sure because of her feelings for isaac.

All this hatred is really OTT

[Cybele]

Originally posted by Annmarie
Cor you must have put some thought and effort into that. Why didn't you just write that you hate Noirin.

You seem to have forgotten that fact that Marcus has spoken to Noirin like she is something on the bottom of his shoe.

You have also forgotten to mention that she was actually stalked by Marcus. She didn't really have to do a lot to make him interested in her. he did that himself.

You have also forgotten to add that Noirin has told Marcus time and time again that she only wanted to be friends.

So if you're going to start a thread just to slag off Noirin, you need to get others factors included as well.

So you have responded to a thread on Noirin with a list Marcus' faults. Just because Marcus has faults, it doesn't take away from the fact that Noirin has manipulated people in the house. Which was my point.

[Cybele]

Originally posted by MonkeyDoodle
Sophie gets with a user and self professed player, which she knew he was, within the first couple of days inside the house. Kris does the dirty with Sophie, big brother hides that fact until Sophie herself says it to Noirin a couple of days ago, and you know they had to have footage of this, but chose to protect sophie and kris.

Yet Noirin only kissed a guy and the guy she kissed is 100% alright with how things are, so no problems between two adults, yet people love sophie and hate noirin.

additionally, pick any friday or saturday night out in the pubs, thousands of girls have a few drinks and may kiss some random guy before they go home, with no intention of ever seeing them again. How many times have we seen this?

the only difference is that Noirin did it inside the bb house. And she may actually like Siavash but could be confused and not sure because of her feelings for isaac.

All this hatred is really OTT

Did you actually read what I wrote? Because nothing you said had anything to do with it. In fact, the word "kiss" is not used in my post AT ALL nor did I think it was relevent.

[setanta]

I've never called her a slut- I wouldn't like to gamble that she's not in the real world world but sure that's neither here nor there.

She is however a manipulative, uncaring and duplictious young lady who is totally self absorbed. That's a very dangerous person to have around.... she will hurt people again and again.

[MonkeyDoodle]

Originally posted by Cybele

Did you actually read what I wrote? Because nothing you said had anything to do with it. In fact, the word "kiss" is not used in my post AT ALL nor did I think it was relevent.

just posting my opinion, just like you are

[MonkeyDoodle]

Originally posted by Annmarie
Cor you must have put some thought and effort into that. Why didn't you just write that you hate Noirin.

You seem to have forgotten that fact that Marcus has spoken to Noirin like she is something on the bottom of his shoe.

You have also forgotten to mention that she was actually stalked by Marcus. She didn't really have to do a lot to make him interested in her. he did that himself.

You have also forgotten to add that Noirin has told Marcus time and time again that she only wanted to be friends.

So if you're going to start a thread just to slag off Noirin, you need to get others factors included as well.

Ah, a level head

[Annmarie]

Personally, I don't really think she is doing it on purpose. I just think that's her personality. Either I'm really naive or just stupid, but i can't see that she's really doing anything wrong.

[Maxien78]

Marcus and Noirin deserve each other. They both manipulative and like to have things their way or no way.

I felt bad for Noirin when Marcus was really coming on to her and beggin her to show him her boobs etc, but i also felt disgusted with her for letting him do it.

He likes to give sexual attention to her and she likes to recieve it. Leave them both to it.

[Annmarie]

thanks monkeydoodle. it does my head in reading some of these threads. i can't understand why she's hated so much. Don't get me wrong, I'm not a real fan of hers but by god, give the girl a break. It seems some people just look for the bad in everyone when the facts are clear to see

[Beastie]

i couldnt care less if noirin is a slut or not!

get her out

[Annmarie]

Originally posted by MonkeyDoodle

just posting my opinion, just like you are

[30stone]

I think people look faar to into it.

[chris1232]

[Annmarie]

TOTALLY OTT in my opinion too

[Annmarie]

Originally posted by Cybele

So you have responded to a thread on Noirin with a list Marcus' faults. Just because Marcus has faults, it doesn't take away from the fact that Noirin has manipulated people in the house. Which was my point.

[Cybele]

Originally posted by Annmarie
thanks monkeydoodle. it does my head in reading some of these threads. i can't understand why she's hated so much. Don't get me wrong, I'm not a real fan of hers but by god, give the girl a break. It seems some people just look for the bad in everyone when the facts are clear to see

I don't think that is really fair to me, to be honest. This is the first and only thread I have ever done about Noirin. In fact, I think this is probably only my 3rd thread ever.

And you say that the "facts" are clear to see. But you really mean that everyone should see your opinion. Facts are irrefutable. Beef comes from cows. THAT is a fact. Nothing you can say or do will make beef come from sheep or pork come from cows. However, opinions are different. They are subjective. Any two people could watch the same thing and have two different views of it. And both would be partially right and partially wrong. The truth would lie somewhere in the middle.

[Annmarie]

I just don't agree that's all. I don't think she realises she's manipulated anyone. I can't really see it to be honest either. Some of the points you've made maybe I can agree with but on a whole I just think you're being unfair on her. Not just you, but loads of people on here

[MonkeyDoodle]

Originally posted by Annmarie
thanks monkeydoodle. it does my head in reading some of these threads. i can't understand why she's hated so much. Don't get me wrong, I'm not a real fan of hers but by god, give the girl a break. It seems some people just look for the bad in everyone when the facts are clear to see

same here, I like her and she's not perfect, none of them are, and all of them have egos otherwise they'd not be in there. I dont care who wins, just dont like all the OTT hatred for the kinda stuff that does on every friday down the pub between guys and girls.

I like Sophie as a person, but let's face it, she bunked up with a guys he knew was a player and made no secret of that fact, she then went and had sex with him, yet, Noirin is the slut, tramp, tease etc? Maybe in bizarro land.

cheers

[PaulyJ]

Opinion mascarading as Fact.

Your joking if you think she gave Sree the hot n cold treatment, that's just utter garbage, i will agree she got rid of his unwanted attention by manipulating Marcus into being an ally vs Sree, Marcus knew where he stood after Sree left and No means No in my book so as he continued the pointless fruitless chase he was to blame for anything that happened thereafter.

The Siavash thing is her fault, she should not of kissed him if she fancied Tom more.

It is clear to me she no longer fancies Siavash and will end up paying the price for kissing him in a moment of weakness.

You are giving her far to much credibility as a femme fetale, she is not, just a player.