[kisywisy]

so he thinks that siavash is getting into a relationship with noirin he wants attention on the outside?? and a magazine deal!!

interesting

[Caroline592]

Siavash was the one who started the whole thing with that coded
conversation .Noirin said to Sophie and Bea that he started touching her
more and more and flirting with her more and more before they had that
coded conversation.

[golden]

I really hope people don't start blaming Siavash for the relationship...it takes two to do the macarena!

[rayheartbliss]

i've started thinking that he may how a gameplan while back....afterall he did say quote "i would not respect anyone in here who say they dont have a gameplane" im guessing that includes him.

[golden]

If I went into the house I would def have a gameplan...
I think most of them do..they may not be there to win but they are there to become famous & to become famous you have to last more than a week or two & for this you need a game plan!
The hms who keep saying they don't are protesting too much!

[setanta]

i doubt it very much. freddie thinks too hard about all the ins and outs and roundabouts concerning everyone. it's offputting. i wonder if he was always like this or the whole bullying passage of the show has changed him.

[Vicky.]

I think they all have a gameplan to some extent.

Its a gameshow after all

[greysky]

Noirin is just plain nasty but she doesn't have a bf outside and Siavash does .... no matter what Noirin has done, she hasn't hurt anyone has much as Siavash has to his gf... they both deserve each other and I have no doubt they are only after the magazine deal.

[NettoSuperstar!]

Freddies gameplan is coming into full force then I see!

[yousoboo!]

Noirin is using Siavash as a physical barrier between her and Marcus. Total BITCH!

[bbisfun]

Originally posted by kisywisy
so he thinks that siavash is getting into a relationship with noirin he wants attention on the outside?? and a magazine deal!!

interesting

He does have a gameplan, and I think in his mind he thinks his going to win.

[kisywisy]

it took a while for freddie to actually say the words last night. he felt like he was kinda betraying siavash by even thinking it

it just shows you though. everyone's focus is on noirin's reason for getting with him, but freddie really thinks it's siavash that has fabricated the whole thing.

[Beastie]

big brother has been on for 10 years! i do think siavash has feelings for noirin! but noirin and siavash both want magazine deals!! the same as kris and dogface!

[WAYNEEBRUM]

Beas got into freds mind

[WOMBAI]

Originally posted by kisywisy
so he thinks that siavash is getting into a relationship with noirin he wants attention on the outside?? and a magazine deal!!

interesting

Much as I like Freddy - think he is beginning to lose it - he was extremely stressed last night!!

He is beginning to doubt the wrong people. His feelings of loyalty and obligation towards Marcus are beginning to cloud his judgement.

When he comes out - he is going to feel silly!!

[kisywisy]

Originally posted by WAYNEEBRUM
Beas got into freds mind

why do you say that?? bea is more anti noirin than anti siavash. she has questioned noirin's part of them getting together

freddie has come to his own conclusions due to conversations he's had with siavash

[Wildcat!]

Freddie does think that. BUt he is wrong this time. I think Siavash has a lot more to lose than to gain, with this whole Noirin thing. If he had a gameplan, it just got screwed up by Noirin. SO,as much as I like Freddie, he's got it wrong this time, and I have no doubt, Bea has something to do with it.

[Marc]

I bet they both want the money in all fairness

[Hedgie]

Originally posted by COMMONSENSE

Much as I like Freddy - think he is beginning to lose it - he was extremely stressed last night!!

He is beginning to doubt the wrong people. His feelings of loyalty and obligation towards Marcus are beginning to cloud his judgement.

When he comes out - he is going to feel silly!!

Loyalty to the only person who got your back when you're getting bullied? I'd call that a wise move myself. Marcus is many things, but he doesn't like to see a person crapped on, if Freddie holds that in high esteem then kudos to him.

[kisywisy]

Originally posted by Aint_mad_atcha
Freddie does think that. BUt he is wrong this time. I think Siavash has a lot more to lose than to gain, with this whole Noirin thing. If he had a gameplan, it just got screwed up by Noirin. SO,as much as I like Freddie, he's got it wrong this time, and I have no doubt, Bea has something to do with it.

in a conversation with freddie, siavash said that he had more to lose than noirin and started to say other things that made freddie think it. i don't know what they were and i hope they are in the HL show or we'll never know

i have heard siavash say that 100k is nothing and "you couldn't even buy a house with that" (said when he was walking out the bedroom a few days ago to noirin) so he's wanting much more after big brother than winning

freddie could be right about this

[MR.K!]

In otherwords, Freddie feels threatened by Siavash, so he is now spouting lies to bring him down. Lets face it Freddie has the biggest gameplan of all, although Siavash is a lieing scum bag. They are both as bad as each other.

[kisywisy]

Originally posted by MR.K!
In otherwords, Freddie feels threatened by Siavash

how does he feel threatened by him??

[ange7]

Originally posted by kisywisy
so he thinks that siavash is getting into a relationship with noirin he wants attention on the outside?? and a magazine deal!!

interesting

rubbish.
Note Freddie's melt down when simply chatting with Bea in the tub. Also his weirdness when he closes his eyes and smiles like a nutter. He is in no mental condition to make a rational judgement about other hms.

[WOMBAI]

Originally posted by Hedgie

Loyalty to the only person who got your back when you're getting bullied? I'd call that a wise move myself. Marcus is many things, but he doesn't like to see a person crapped on, if Freddie holds that in high esteem then kudos to him.

Disagree - think that, at that time, Marcus was as much an outsider as Freddie. The friendship was to his benefit as well - safety in numbers and all that!!

Freddie has moved on in that respect - Marcus just proved to be a complete plonker - and is still an outsider!!!

Freddy is too loyal for his own good!!!

[kisywisy]

Originally posted by ange7

rubbish.
Note Freddie's melt down when simply chatting with Bea in the tub. Also his weirdness when he closes his eyes and smiles like a nutter. He is in no mental condition to make a rational judgement about other hms.

misread post

edit

freddie was upset the other day when they did the token task as he could see marcus being an idiot and felt he had to stay loyal against his own common sense and bea. also the whole siavash and noirin thing was getting to him (maybe this is why?)

everyone gets emotional in the house at some time and that was his time. you can't say that because he cried once, his judgement is wrong