[scot]

People keep asking - why all the hate re Noirin!

It's not hate, its repulsion.

there is a certain ubiquitos(sp)moral code shared by most people. You know, things like decency, concern for others feelings, proper behaviour, foregoing sheer selfishness...other things like that.

Noirin dont do those things...there is no morality in Noirin, she suffers from a putrifying inner-self. An ugly spirit devoid of anything pleasent

[HELLIWONTGO]

I sort of understand what you are trying to say, well I understood the words but not the sentences!
cough w******!

[reallynow]

Originally posted by scot
People keep asking - why all the hate re Noirin!

It's not hate, its repulsion.

there is a certain ubiquitos(sp)moral code shared by most people. You know, things like decency, concern for others feelings, proper behaviour, foregoing sheer selfishness...other things like that.

Noirin dont do those things...there is no morality in Noirin, she suffers from a putrifying inner-self. An ugly spirit devoid of anything pleasent

Jealousy, more like, no one had a problem with PETE when he had women all over him and swapped and changed them!

He even done a porn video, still won.

[Showstopper]

Originally posted by scot
People keep asking - why all the hate re Noirin!

It's not hate, its repulsion.

there is a certain ubiquitos(sp)moral code shared by most people. You know, things like decency, concern for others feelings, proper behaviour, foregoing sheer selfishness...other things like that.

Noirin dont do those things...there is no morality in Noirin, she suffers from a putrifying inner-self. An ugly spirit devoid of anything pleasent

5 minutes in a room with her and you'd fall head over heels in love with her too

[setanta]

Originally posted by reallynow

Jealousy, more like, no one had a problem with PETE when he had women all over him and swapped and changed them!

He even done a porn video, still won.

It's nothing to do with jealousy. You keep insisting on this. I'm not jealous of a girl who acts with the moral compass that Scot has already described. That's a disloyal and uncaring persons way of living, and is entirely unnattractive to me.

[reallynow]

Originally posted by setanta

It's nothing to do with jealousy. You keep insisting on this. I'm not jealous of a girl who acts with the moral compass that Scot has already described. That's a disloyal and uncaring persons way of living, and is entirely unnattractive to me.

I think Noirin is a young beautiful lady who likes a drink or too, flirts a little and wanted a little kiss and a cuddle!

HARDLY F UCKING CRIME OF THE OVER EXAGGERATED CENTURY IS IT!

[BB22]

I am a fan of Marcus and want Noirin to go tomorrow... but the OP is way over the top in my view.

[reallynow]

Originally posted by BB22
I am a fan of Marcus and want Noirin to go tomorrow... but the OP is way over the top in my view.

A rare species, someone who wants Noirin to go, but comes with some logic LOL

[scot]

Originally posted by Showstopper

5 minutes in a room with her and you'd fall head over heels in love with her too

errr...me thinks not. Why do you say that?...What is so appealing about Noirin. I dont get it.

[muchadoaboutnothing]

Is Siavash not the person acting immorally? Girlfriend and all that - remember.

Siavash - An ugly spirit devoid of anything pleasent

[NettoSuperstar!]

Originally posted by muchadoaboutnothing
Is Siavash not the person acting immorally? Girlfriend and all that - remember.

Siavash - An ugly spirit devoid of anything pleasent

Siavash quite clearly has expressed guilt...All Noirin is bothered about is how the public will feel!

[muchadoaboutnothing]

A bit too late for guilt - hey Siavash! If Issac had not gone in Siavash would still be chasing up her skirt.

[tintedshadow]

Originally posted by reallynow

I think Noirin is a young beautiful lady who likes a drink or too, flirts a little and wanted a little kiss and a cuddle!

HARDLY F UCKING CRIME OF THE OVER EXAGGERATED CENTURY IS IT!

i have argued much the same point but the OP is refering more so to her overwhelming selfishness..

you may have noticed last night's live feed she asked her ex what she should do about siavash,within seconds she changed from actually caring about him to saying "**** it no one owns me,i can kiss who i like" .. i have made the points she is free to do as she pleases,within reason..

when it comes to siavash,had her ex not come in last night noirin would still accept a cuddle and a kiss,however since the ex arrived she has distanced herself.. it is obviosly understandable but the point is its on her terms and siavash has to just take whatever he's given..

so the OP has a fair point,she seems only interested in herself which makes for some unpleasant viewing at times..

[walter]

I think she is a disgrace and deserves all the **** she'll get in life!

[setanta]

Originally posted by NettoSuperstar!

Siavash quite clearly has expressed guilt...All Noirin is bothered about is how the public will feel!

Well said. She was just trying to figure out how to spin it properly, with herself coming out squeaky clean from the affair. So pathetic and without any feelings towards Siavash. But sure we knew that already.

[scot]

Originally posted by BB22
I am a fan of Marcus and want Noirin to go tomorrow... but the OP is way over the top in my view.

No, I dont think it is. Of course I do realise there are going to be underlying issues for her behaviour.

Im not advocating the point of view that just because Noirin seems to have no consciounce(sp)and absolutely no regard for the feelings of others that she is a complete sociopath.

I do understand that her odious behaviour is more likely the product of an extremely low self image and a rock bottom self esteem. Noirin has many many issues she needs to attend too. She is a mess currently being groomed and used by Isaac. Isaa is a player who smells out messes like Noirin and uses them.

[Caramel77]

Originally posted by scot

No, I dont think it is. Of course I do realise there are going to be underlying issues for her behaviour.

Im not advocating the point of view that just because Noirin seems to have no consciounce(sp)and absolutely no regard for the feelings of others that she is a complete sociopath.

I do understand that her odious behaviour is more likely the product of an extremely low self image and a rock bottom self esteem. Noirin has many many issues she needs to attend too. She is a mess currently being groomed and used by Isaac. Isaa is a player who smells out messes like Noirin and uses them.

Good points. I also think she needs affirmation from others to feel good about herself which is sad and pathetic. The more men she has fawning over the better she is, hence her grovelling to marcus in yesterdays HLs. She hated the thought of him not liking/obssessing over her.... Shame.

[jet]

I think the O/P points are spot on and not over the top at all.

[Tom]

She isn't ugly and clearly she does have regard for others if she told Sree and Marcus she isn't interested, and was dreading telling Marcus about Siavash. Funny how there is no mention of Siavash's disregard for his girlfriend.

[scot]

Originally posted by Caramel77

Good points. I also think she needs affirmation from others to feel good about herself which is sad and pathetic. The more men she has fawning over the better she is, hence her grovelling to marcus in yesterdays HLs. She hated the thought of him not liking/obssessing over her.... Shame.

spot on...in spite of all the folk on the forum who kept saying that Marcus was controlling Noirin, that he was a creepy stalker toward her etc Noirin herself was never able(or even contemplated)to tell Marcus straight in a foreful manner. This may in part be due to the strictures of living in the house but more likely it was due to the fact that she DIDNT WANT Marcus to leave her alone. Marcus gave her a sense of identity and purpose. Noirin is SCARY in her neediness.

She is not the independent young woman who just wants to have fun and kisses and etc that so many seem to think on this forum. She is in fact a very insecure person who seeks and derives purpose and fucntion through the attention of others(primarly men).

[muchadoaboutnothing]

Originally posted by Tom
She isn't ugly and clearly she does have regard for others if she told Sree and Marcus she isn't interested, and was dreading telling Marcus about Siavash. Funny how there is no mention of Siavash's disregard for his girlfriend.

Or for his so called friend Marcus.

[NettoSuperstar!]

Originally posted by muchadoaboutnothing

Or for his so called friend Marcus.

He expressed his guilt, she worried about public perception

[scot]

Originally posted by NettoSuperstar!

He expressed his guilt, she worried about public perception

exactly...Noirin has all the morality and empathy of a wind up plastic toy.

[Tom]

Originally posted by NettoSuperstar!

He expressed his guilt, she worried about public perception

How do you know the guilt wasn't just for the cameras?

[Twiggy]

Originally posted by reallynow

Jealousy, more like, no one had a problem with PETE when he had women all over him and swapped and changed them!

He even done a porn video, still won.

Another show and 2 wrongs dont make a right.