[cammie]

Siavash said he had been with his girlfriend for 'like a month' and so had no problem calling it off for Noirin.

Noirin and Siavash were together for 1 week so she thought it was acceptable to call things off to get back together with Isaac.

Seems like they both did the same thing, but Noirin has come out of it looking bad.

[camertone]

VERY WELL SAID!!

PEOPLE ARE TOO HARSH ON NOIRIN! AND TOO SOFT ON SIAVASH!

DOUBLE STANDARDS! EH?

[fallenkal]

Originally posted by cammie
Siavash said he had been with his girlfriend for 'like a month' and so had no problem calling it off for Noirin.

Noirin and Siavash were together for 1 week so she thought it was acceptable to call things off to get back together with Isaac.

Seems like they both did the same thing, but Noirin has come out of it looking bad.

Wait, *****en called things off? Seems to me she just thought Siavash would get the hint and jumped into Isaac's arms. That ain't calling it off that's being a total *****bitch.

*****en looks bad because she is devoid of a moral compass and is completely egocentric.

[Vicky.]

They are both in the wrong.

The difference is, we can actually see what this is doing to siavash.

If his girlfriend was in there, people would hate him as much.

Out of sight out of mind and all that.

[arsenalforever]

But doesn't excuse noirin behaving the way she's behaving towards him

[Vicky.]

Originally posted by arsenalforever
But doesn't excuse noirin behaving the way she's behaving towards him

Exactly, 2 wrongs do not make a right.

[arsenalforever]

Originally posted by VickyJ

Exactly, 2 wrongs do not make a right.

she was really shocked he didn't forgive her yesterday when she said sorry.

noirin taught he play her game and forgive her but i don't think she cares anyway

[cammie]

Originally posted by fallenkal

Wait, *****en called things off? Seems to me she just thought Siavash would get the hint and jumped into Isaac's arms. That ain't calling it off that's being a total *****bitch.

*****en looks bad because she is devoid of a moral compass and is completely egocentric.

exactly my point - did siavash 'call it off' or did he just let her know it was over by kissing Noirin?

[Vicky.]

Originally posted by cammie

exactly my point - did siavash 'call it off' or did he just let her know it was over by kissing Noirin?

And again...2 wrongs dont make a right.

And how do you expect him to break it off with his girlfriend? Walk out the door, split up with her, come back in and kiss noirin?

[arsenalforever]

Originally posted by cammie

oh cammie

exactly my point - did siavash 'call it off' or did he just let her know it was over by kissing Noirin?

[cammie]

Originally posted by VickyJ

And again...2 wrongs dont make a right.

And how do you expect him to break it off with his girlfriend? Walk out the door, split up with her, come back in and kiss noirin?

no, he should have waited until he left the house broken things off with his girlfriend, and then get together with Noirin (if they had still wanted to) If he had done that in the first place none of this mess would have happened.

[setanta]

Originally posted by cammie
Siavash said he had been with his girlfriend for 'like a month' and so had no problem calling it off for Noirin.

Noirin and Siavash were together for 1 week so she thought it was acceptable to call things off to get back together with Isaac.

Seems like they both did the same thing, but Noirin has come out of it looking bad.

I wouldn't agree there. Siavash has acted like an idiot on national television but he struggled with these feelings for Noirin for quite some time and was well aware of the sacrifices he was making to be with her. Noirin was aware of this too after their conversation the day before.

I cannot understand why she would lead Siavash (one of her best friends in the house) on like this and then toss him aside like a used piece of toilet roll. By asking him if she could get into bed with him and continuing their little kissathons, day in, day out, she assumed a certain responsibility as well as him for their relationship.

But Noirin doesn't do responsible. That gets in the way of having fun, her fun being the manipulation and ultimately abandonment of people. Why even kiss Siavash when you quite obviously had no feelings for him in the first place? Why the stupid performance in the diary room, confessing she had feelings for Siavash, with all Noirin supporters in here slagging me at the time for saying it was bull.

You see, I believe Noirin has a pathology for using and abusing people in the real world that doesn't transfer well into a contained enviroment like Big Brother. There's no shirking of responsibility there- your lack of empathy or awareness comes back to haunt you. I honestly hope she does learn from experience but somehow it's very doubtful.

[fallenkal]

Originally posted by cammie

exactly my point - did siavash 'call it off' or did he just let her know it was over by kissing Noirin?

Your point doesn't hold any weight though. Siavash can't break up with his supposed girlfriend because he's in a situation where he CAN'T interact with her. Why don't people get that?

If they had put Siavash's girlfriend in the house (and Siavash had chosen his outside girlfriend) instead of Isaac do I think that Siavash would have played it like *****en had? NO! The man has some semblance of dignity!

[Vicky.]

Originally posted by cammie

no, he should have waited until he left the house broken things off with his girlfriend, and then get together with Noirin (if they had still wanted to) If he had done that in the first place none of this mess would have happened.

So siavash is in the wrong for noirin coming across as a total bitch, through her own actions?!

[arsenalforever]

Originally posted by VickyJ

So siavash is in the wrong for noirin coming across as a total bitch, through her own actions?!

noirin is at much at fault for stealing another girls fela

she jump on her ex or so she says fella and snogs him

she didn't oncego over to siavash and say she didn't mean this to hapen

both are wrong but of noirin would disagree

[Vicky.]

Originally posted by arsenalforever

noirin is at much at fault for stealing another girls fela

she jump on her ex or so she says fella and snogs him

she didn't oncego over to siavash and say she didn't mean this to hapen

both are wrong but of noirin would disagree

Ah yes, I forgot, fans of noirin will never admit when she does something wrong, its always someone elses fault isnt it...

[arsenalforever]

Originally posted by VickyJ

Ah yes, I forgot, fans of noirin will never admit when she does something wrong, its always someone elses fault isnt it...

she's one of BB's most cold hesrted Hm's ever and she won't have one friend out of this experience

wait and see her pull of her miss innocence act with davina tonight

[Vicky.]

Originally posted by arsenalforever


she's one of BB's most cold hesrted Hm's ever and she won't have one friend out of this experience

wait and see her pull of her miss innocence act with davina tonight

Yes im dreading that, I should tweet davina and ask her nicely not to be mislead into believing any of the bullshit that will no doubtedly come out of little miss sunshunes mouth....and grill her as bad as she can...

not that that will make a difference like...

[cammie]

Originally posted by fallenkal

Your point doesn't hold any weight though. Siavash can't break up with his supposed girlfriend because he's in a situation where he CAN'T interact with her. Why don't people get that?

If they had put Siavash's girlfriend in the house (and Siavash had chosen his outside girlfriend) instead of Isaac do I think that Siavash would have played it like *****en had? NO! The man has some semblance of dignity!

exactly! so he should have just left Noirin alone as he wasn't in a position to talk to her, Noirin was single at the time Siavash had a responsibility to respect his girlfriend by maybe acknowledging that he was attracted to Noirin but not to act on that until they left the house - they had 'waited' 7 weeks - what was another 4?

and we have no idea how Siavash would have reacted, he didn't say he was in love with his gf, Noirin told anyone who would listen how she loved Isaac.

[arsenalforever]

Originally posted by VickyJ

Yes im dreading that, I should tweet davina and ask her nicely not to be mislead into believing any of the bullshit that will no doubtedly come out of little miss sunshunes mouth....and grill her as bad as she can...

not that that will make a difference like...

i see the chav audince in BBBM giving her heel but Davinawill praise her for all the men she' fooled and issac

[cammie]

Originally posted by VickyJ

Ah yes, I forgot, fans of noirin will never admit when she does something wrong, its always someone elses fault isnt it...

If you look at the title of my post, you will read that I was saying that both Noirin and Siavash behaved in the same way. that is to say that they BOTH handled it badly.

tbh I assumed that people with half a brain would see that I wasn't saying 'Noirin is perfect' but 'Siavash is equally guilty'

Duh!

[Vicky.]

Originally posted by cammie

If you look at the title of my post, you will read that I was saying that both Noirin and Siavash behaved in the same way. that is to say that they BOTH handled it badly.

tbh I assumed that people with half a brain would see that I wasn't saying 'Noirin is perfect' but 'Siavash is equally guilty'

Duh!

I am perfectly aware of what the title of your post is. Duh.

Your replies however to peoples views, have made out that you feel siavash is in some way to blame for noirin acting like a prick.

[cammie]

Originally posted by VickyJ

I am perfectly aware of what the title of your post is. Duh.

Your replies however to peoples views, have made out that you feel siavash is in some way to blame for noirin acting like a prick.

No, my posts imply that the general consensus on this forum of 'Siavash, what a saint!' is unfair and very harsh towards Noirin. Duh.

[Vicky.]

Originally posted by cammie


No, my posts imply that the general consensus on this forum of 'Siavash, what a saint' is unfair. Duh.

No, your posts are trying to imply that siavash is to blame for how noirin is acting. And I will not continue writing duh, as I am not a child. I did it once to take the piss, someone is obviously either 13 or very immature.

[cammie]

Originally posted by VickyJ

No, your posts are trying to imply that siavash is to blame for how noirin is acting. And I will not continue writing duh, as I am not a child. I did it once to take the p**s, someone is obviously either 13 or very immature.

you're completly unreasonable, I don't dislike Siavash - I just wish that people would realise that he has an equal part to play in all of this and is not merely the 'victim.'

and you're sexist views towards Noirin shows me that the only 13 year old on here is you. obviously you are very emotionally immature to have such a clouded take on things.