[jjj2]

With no consideration for the cruelty involved. Shame on C4 and Big Brother . There was ZERO CHANCE that Noirin would chose Siavash who she had only been flirting with for a week over Isaac who she loves and is desprate to get back with . The cynical way in which they painted Noirin in to a corner to destroy her chances on this shows that all sence of fair play has gone from this show

[Vicky.]

No, Isaac was put in to SAVE noirin.

It backfired, badly.

[setanta]

Course it backfired.... big time. Isaac and Noirin exposed as a couple of narcissistic wannabes, deluded into thinking that what they say to each other is gospel. It was so funny watching them on livefeed.... could they be more in love with themselves?

[fallenkal]

Seriously, they should bring in the bitches parents to stare at her while she's in bed with Isaac.

Then bring back Sree with a dozen roses introducing himself as the love of her life.

Then make her date Marcus every night with Isaac in a hidden spectators box.

That's how I'd orchestrate her demise. Sadly she's taking care of everything herself.

[jjj2]

Originally posted by VickyJ
No, Isaac was put in to SAVE noirin.

It backfired, badly.

How was that suppose to work, it could only Go one way ,Noirin choses ISAAC the public like Siavash because the Know him longer,they hate her for it ,So they Vote her out . it could not have gone any other way when Noirin is Genuinely desprate to get back with the man she loves. A TRAP in other words

[Vicky.]

Originally posted by jjj2

How was that suppose to work, it could only Go one way ,Noirin choses ISAAC the public like Siavash because the Know him longer,they hate her for it ,So the Vote her out . it could not have gone any other way when Noirin is Genuinely desprate to get back with the man she loves. A TRAP in other words

No

People are supposed to keep her in to see how their relationship pans out.

If she had not been downright nasty in how she handled it, this may well have saved her, like the plan was.

The only reason she is going to be leaving tomorrow, is because she was so coldhearted towards siavash, not giving a damn.

[jjj2]

Originally posted by VickyJ

No

People are supposed to keep her in to see how their relationship pans out.

If she had not been downright nasty in how she handled it, this may well have saved her, like the plan was.

The only reason she is going to be leaving tomorrow, is because she was so coldhearted towards siavash, not giving a damn.

IT could only have worked to save her if she had pretended to chose Siavash who the public love over Isaac who she really loves and wants back ,But then she really would be the Evil Noirin of the image they created for on this show and not the Genuine person in a catch 22 situation.

[Vicky.]

Originally posted by jjj2
IT could only have worked to save her if she had pretended to chose Siavash who the public love over Isaac who she really loves and wants back ,But then she really would be the Evil Noirin of the image they created for on this show and not the Genuine person in a catch 22 situation.

No, if she had explained to siavash, or even spoke to him about it, instead of laughing behind his back, then their plan would have worked. Instead she chose to ridicule him.

She would not have to chose him at all, as a lot of people could see she was in a bad situation. It is not the situation, its how she went about it.

[Shasown]

Surely if she truly loved Isaac she wouldnt have decided to start a relationship in the house with Siavash, knowing Isaac could be watching at any time, or reading comments on what was going on over the internet on the various BB10 forums etc.

If the relationship was indeed over, however, thinking about it, whats to say they didnt know he was possibly coming in, after all during their discussions since being reunited they shared time together just prior to her coming into the house. And he could have been part of the package deal.

[Sticks]

As a seasoned vetran, I'm with jjj2 on this one, in fact I was beaten to the punch on setting up a thread.

C4 / Endemol has an agenda of who they want to win, and for some reason they are engineering it for Marcus to be kept in.

In Season three they wanted Alex to win, and we defeated them. Last year they wanted Mikey to win, and we defeated them then.

C4 / Endemol do not want Norin in the house now, and have engineered it so the public think that Myra Hindley was a saint compared to Norin and if that don't work, to make sure she will be nominated again or walks.

You will have to ask C4 why they want this outcome.

[Claymores]

Originally posted by Shasown
Surely if she truly loved Isaac she wouldnt have decided to start a relationship in the house with Siavash, knowing Isaac could be watching at any time, or reading comments on what was going on over the internet on the various BB10 forums etc.

If the relationship was indeed over, however, thinking about it, whats to say they didnt know he was possibly coming in, after all during their discussions since being reunited they shared time together just prior to her coming into the house. And he could have been part of the package deal.

What I've thought about is...........if all this breakup had been genuine, how come the happy couple didn't spend a couple of hours in the lounge or something discussing their break-up and whether there was a basis for the reconciliation of the relationship.

None of that happened......instead, 5 minutes after arrival, they were together without any discussion of what had caused a 3 year partnership to have ended before.

Seems very suspicious

[Vicky.]

Originally posted by Sticks
As a seasoned vetran, I'm with jjj2 on this one, in fact I was beaten to the punch on setting up a thread.

C4 / Endemol has an agenda of who they want to win, and for some reason they are engineering it for Marcus to be kept in.

In Season three they wanted Alex to win, and we defeated them. Last year they wanted Mikey to win, and we defeated them then.

C4 / Endemol do not want Norin in the house now, and have engineered it so the public think that Myra Hindley was a saint compared to Norin and if that don't work, to make sure she will be nominated again or walks.

You will have to ask C4 why they want this outcome.

Nah...sorry to totally disregard your views but BB has been very transparent in the fact that this was meant to SAVE noirin, not get rid of her. He was put in so that people would keep her in, to see how their relationship panned out.

She could have come out of it looking good, had she chose to do the right thing.

It is her actions, and her actions alone that have lead to her likely being evicted tonight.

[Sticks]

But on BBLB the break up reason was because they were on two different continents so there is less likely to be acrimony here?

But that is off topic as to how C4 decided to torpedo Norin to save Marcus.

[Shasown]

Except on live feed he mentioned that they had been together before she went into the house, because he had told her while in the house she should accept its not a reality its a reality show, therefore to give that advice they had to know she was definately a contestant. In that it was very close to the start of the series.

Also unless they are 100% sure of winning the same problem exists after they both leave the show.

[BB22]

So... putting Isaac in was a plot by Big Brother to get Noirin evicted!!!

Oh... hang on.

It was a plot by Big Brother to save Noirin and get Marcus evicted!!!

No... hold on a sec.

It was a plot by Big Brother to save Noirin and get Marcus evicted which has spectacularly backfired because the insightful British public have seen right through it so it will get Noirin evicted!!!

*sigh*

Isn't it just more likely that Big Brother thought: "Who knows what the hell is going to happen with this but it should sure make some interesting telly and cause a firestorm on the forums and in the tabloids! Let's do it."

[Vicky.]

Originally posted by Sticks
But on BBLB the break up reason was because they were on two different continents so there is less likely to be acrimony here?

But that is off topic as to how C4 decided to torpedo Norin to save Marcus.

C4 were not trying to save Marcus.

They were trying to save Noirin.

It is obvious

[Vicky.]

Originally posted by BB22
So... putting Isaac in was a plot by Big Brother to get Noirin evicted!!!

Oh... hang on.

It was a plot by Big Brother to save Noirin and get Marcus evicted!!!

No... hold on a sec.

It was a plot by Big Brother to save Noirin and get Marcus evicted which has spectacularly backfired because the insightful British public have seen right through it so it will get Noirin evicted!!!

*sigh*

Isn't it just more likely that Big Brother thought: "Who knows what the hell is going to happen with this but it should sure make some interesting telly and cause a firestorm on the forums and in the tabloids! Let's do it."

Basically they think we are all watching because it is the noirin show, we are watching it FOR her...which is not the case. So they try to give her another storyline.

I also think that they think sex on tv = viewers.

Since noirin pulled the friends thing with siavash (though continued snogging him) they realise that they wouldnt get this.

So they added Isaac.

[Shasown]

I personally dont believe it was in order to save Noirin, that is incidental to the main outcome.

The idea was to get an American style player into the house, Isaac and Noirins relationship fitted the bill and was therefore convenient.

There was too much publicity about him going in, it was a deliberate leak.

The kenneth/karly was a sort of trial run

There was all the rumourss about him going in on various times etc.

Then they had to push him in this week because Noirin was nominated for eviction hence the fast entry on Wednesday with no show.

[jjj2]

Originally posted by VickyJ

No, if she had explained to siavash, or even spoke to him about it, instead of laughing behind his back, then their plan would have worked. Instead she chose to ridicule him.

She would not have to chose him at all, as a lot of people could see she was in a bad situation. It is not the situation, its how she went about it.

this was NERVOUS laughter at the Awkwardness of the situation, Cynical Editing techniques were used to give the impression that they were laughing at him. we were shown them laughing at the very begining of a scene then they start talking about Siavash , the laughter was on the tv screen for such a short time so the viewer would not have enough time to work out what cause that laughter.YOU have to listen to their words after the laughter. you do not know what went on before the laughter, it was nervous laughter at the situation . Siavash would not talk to her when Isaac asked him and she new from dealing with Marcus early in the week that it was best to let him cool down until the next day , if she was cynical she could have made a big show of talking to him for the cameras even though he did not want to be in the same room.

[BB22]

Originally posted by VickyJ

Basically they think we are all watching because it is the noirin show, we are watching it FOR her...which is not the case. So they try to give her another storyline.

I also think that they think sex on tv = viewers.

Since noirin pulled the friends thing with siavash (though continued snogging him) they realise that they wouldnt get this.

So they added Isaac.

I don't really see any evidence for that. I think the idea I put in my last paragraph is far, far more likely.

[jjj2]

Originally posted by VickyJ

Basically they think we are all watching because it is the noirin show, we are watching it FOR her...which is not the case. So they try to give her another storyline.

I also think that they think sex on tv = viewers.

Since noirin pulled the friends thing with siavash (though continued snogging him) they realise that they wouldnt get this.

So they added Isaac.

Noirin dose not want Embarrass her parents by having sex on tv with anyone and she would have to get very drunk or get carried by emotion before that would change . she want to be able to go back to her home town with being called names in the street

[rusticgal]

Originally posted by setanta
Course it backfired.... big time. Isaac and Noirin exposed as a couple of narcissistic wannabes, deluded into thinking that what they say to each other is gospel. It was so funny watching them on livefeed.... could they be more in love with themselves?

You have hit the nail on the head... first of all they annoyed me.Now I realise what SAD people they really are.

[jjj2]

C4 want to get rid of her because she wont go any further than kissing a guy on tv

[Linto99]

Originally posted by BB22
So... putting Isaac in was a plot by Big Brother to get Noirin evicted!!!

Oh... hang on.

It was a plot by Big Brother to save Noirin and get Marcus evicted!!!

No... hold on a sec.

It was a plot by Big Brother to save Noirin and get Marcus evicted which has spectacularly backfired because the insightful British public have seen right through it so it will get Noirin evicted!!!

*sigh*

Isn't it just more likely that Big Brother thought: "Who knows what the hell is going to happen with this but it should sure make some interesting telly and cause a firestorm on the forums and in the tabloids! Let's do it."

Agree with the last paragraph. Dont think BB had a clue what was going to happen but knew that this show was dying on its feet so had to do something to keep the low viewing numbers they already have! Not even professional psychologists could have predicted exactly what would have happened by putting Issac in.

[RtooDee2]

I agree with VickyJ. Issac was put in to save Noirin.
BB just didnt expect Marcus to be cool with it, he showed more intrest in his fish and chips.
Siavash acting all wounded and Noirin leaving him out to dry is the reason she may be gone tonight.