[MargeryFan]

Freddie percieves Bea to be a good friend because naturally he is always looking for for the best in people. If Bea takes advantage of that then it is her her own agenda, blame her.

All people have realisticly seen is them as friends having discussions. Apart from coming to her aid today after seeing a friend upset, he has not actually done anything that would imply she was playing him like a puppet. He doesn't normally ague anymore and when she bitches he usually has little input appart from nodding ocassionally.

This puppet speak is just unfounded and also puts the blame on the wrong person who has actually not been malicious to anyone at all.

[The_Long_Run]

Baaaaaaaaaaaaaa (humbug!)

[MargeryFan]

[Showstopper]

Originally posted by MargeryFan
Freddie percieves Bea to be a good friend because naturally he is always looking for for the best in people. If Bea takes advantage of that then it is her her own agenda, blame her.

All people have realisticly seen is them as friends having discussions. Apart from coming to her aid today after seeing a friend upset, he has not actually done anything that would imply she was playing him like a puppet. He doesn't normally ague anymore and when she bitches he usually has little input appart from nodding ocassionally.

This puppet speak is just unfounded and also puts the blame on the wrong person who has actually not been malicious to anyone at all.

not only blind, but determined to be blind

[Addy]

Spot on OP!!!! Just sad how some sore losers when their favourites go they cant take it and wont see what is truthful !

Freddie to win!!!!!

[prkp12]

hes ok

[rsefitpro2009]

Well he isn't a puppet and he's one of my favourites however any involvement he has with Bea is surely going to cost him?

He needs to distance himself away from her for one, and then hope she gets evicted in the mean time!

[fuzzylovin]

I dont think bea has took advantage of freddie at all

[a_2009]

Originally posted by MargeryFan
Freddie percieves Bea to be a good friend because naturally he is always looking for for the best in people. If Bea takes advantage of that then it is her her own agenda, blame her.

All people have realisticly seen is them as friends having discussions. Apart from coming to her aid today after seeing a friend upset, he has not actually done anything that would imply she was playing him like a puppet. He doesn't normally ague anymore and when she bitches he usually has little input appart from nodding ocassionally.

This puppet speak is just unfounded and also puts the blame on the wrong person who has actually not been malicious to anyone at all.

At the same time Freddie is also extremely horny, and whilst yes he sees Bea as a friend, he also sees her as a possible shag (the convo with Siavash about if he wasn't in the house he'd have picked her up taken her to the bedroom and given her a good seeing too comment amongst many others). Since Bea entered the house he has followed her around like a lost puppy, and seems oblivious how such behaviour could lead to his downfall, and the fact Bea has quite a nasty and manipulative nature.
Fundamentally as a grown man Freddie is responsible for his actions, yet he seems to support Bea's pretty nasty behaviour.....If I was 'friends' with someone who was acting like Bea...they'd be some serious words...not just nodding and going along with it.

[MargeryFan]

Originally posted by fuzzylovin
I dont think bea has took advantage of freddie at all

I don't know if those are the right words but there are people on here who think that she has apparently.

[MargeryFan]

Originally posted by a_2009

At the same time Freddie is also extremely horny, and whilst yes he sees Bea as a friend, he also sees her as a possible s**g (the convo with Siavash about if he wasn't in the house he'd have picked her up taken her to the bedroom and given her a good seeing too comment amongst many others). Since Bea entered the house he has followed her around like a lost puppy, and seems oblivious how such behaviour could lead to his downfall, and the fact Bea has quite a nasty and manipulative nature.
Fundamentally as a grown man Freddie is responsible for his actions, yet he seems to support Bea's pretty nasty behaviour.....If I was 'friends' with someone who was acting like Bea...they'd be some serious words...not just nodding and going along with it.

You make some good points but in his defence Im sure we have all played the nodding game before to avoid confrontation with the one you like. Particularly when she is all you have

[a_2009]

Originally posted by MargeryFan

You make some good points but in his defence Im sure we have all played the nodding game before to avoid confrontation with the one you like. Particularly when she is all you have

Yeah definately!! To be fair, a lot of the things the guys in their are being criticised for on here, we've all got some of those negative traits in us to a certain extent when face with certain situations, I find it hard to comprehend some of the posts which are so black and white about people's characters.

[Jayson]

I will say it again.

I've always hated Freddie.

[Showstopper]

Sheep are people who blindly follow the crowd, so if only sheep would call Freddie a puppet that would mean that the crowd believe him to be a puppet ?

While calling the posters sheep may very well be a deregatory thing. It dosen't mean their wrong

And considering how popular Freddie is I don't think people who dislike them can be really classed as sheep

[Chels]

he's being stung by bea.
poor b*stard should have hung out with tom more often

[a_2009]

Originally posted by Showstopper

And considering how popular Freddie is I don't think people who dislike them can be really classed as sheep

Somewhat ironically on here, if you don't agree with the majority on here, then you're a 'chav', 'stupid', a 'troll', or all three.....it seems a no win situation.

[MargeryFan]

Originally posted by Showstopper
Sheep are people who blindly follow the crowd, so if only sheep would call Freddie a puppet that would mean that the crowd believe him to be a puppet ?

While calling the posters sheep may very well be a deregatory thing. It dosen't mean their wrong

And considering how popular Freddie is I don't think people who dislike them can be really classed as sheep

Very intelligent reply I appreciate that.

What I meant is that most of the posters are just jumping on the bandwagon rather than actually analyzing the facts. I have so far so no real evidence of the accusation that Freddie is a puppet but Instead all I sea is genral bashing. It's fine if you don't like Freddie but this puppet talk in my opinion is no more than a silly lable.

[ThoughtCrime]

Originally posted by a_2009
Fundamentally as a grown man Freddie is responsible for his actions, yet he seems to support Bea's pretty nasty behaviour.....If I was 'friends' with someone who was acting like Bea...they'd be some serious words...not just nodding and going along with it.

Yeah, I think that's really my main issue with the whole Freddie and Bea thing. It does go against his nature to let someone bitch on and be a bit of a cow, but because he fancies her he's turning a blind eye and making out like everything that comes out of her mouth is gospel.

[Twilight]

I agree with op it so annoying people are hating him just because of Bea

[Marc]

Freddie is played by no body!