[Kazanne]

I just don't get that some people have gone 'off' Freddie just because he stood up to someone who made his life a misery for weeks,people must be so fickle or on a par with the bully herself,maybe people haven't seen all she did like sticking her fingers in her ears while he was trying to talk to her,like waving her hands infront of his face,like singing na,na,na in front of his face,and sniggering with her 'buddies' behind his back and putting him down simply because he spoke well and had money,so ,sorry don't get the dislike all of a sudden,how anyone can condone what Lisa did to him and yet have a go at him for retaliating is strange to say the least.

[Wilton_Shagpile]

You win best post today....so far

[Shasown]

I am not forgetting the way she behaved towards Freddie. I just think he should have kept things on an even keel and not assumed he has the popular vote.

Being the publics favourite doesnt give him the right to behave as he did the other night. He found out he was favourite shortly after the new housemates entered. Since then his behaviour has changed. As if he feels he can do no wrong in the public's eye.

His ego has inflated and changed him from the Freddie I liked during the first few weeks and he has become like those he said were bullying him. They do say Pride comes before a fall.

[Twilight]

Agreed

[Kazanne]

Originally posted by Shasown
I am not forgetting the way she behaved towards Freddie. I jsut think he should have kept things on an even keel and not assumed he has the popular vote.

Being the publics favourite doesnt give him the right to behave as he did the other night. He found out he was favourite shortly after the new housemates entered. Since then his behaviour has changed. As if he feels he can do no wrong in the public's eye.

His ego has inflated and changed him from the Freddie I liked during the first few weeks and he has become like those he said were bullying him. They do say Pride comes before a fall.

I've not seen much of a change in his behaviour,maybe he does feel a little more confident there is nothing wrong with that,His remarks about he was "popular" was merely said to wind Lisa up and he succeeded,she was livid,seems some of the public took it to heart aswell,so good for him.LOL

[Shasown]

Originally posted by kazanne
I've not seen much of a change in his behaviour,maybe he does feel a little more confident there is nothing wrong with that,His remarks about he was "popular" was merely said to wind Lisa up and he succeeded,she was livid,seems some of the public took it to heart aswell,so good for him.LOL

yes he did indeed succeed in winding Lisa up, but at what cost? How much support has he lost, will be interesting to see the results of the phone votes. Winning that little battle may have cost him the war, lets face it Lisa was never going to win.

[Kazanne]

Originally posted by Shasown

yes he did indeed succeed in winding Lisa up, but at what cost? How much support has he lost, will be interesting to see the results of the phone votes. Winning that little battle may have cost him the war, lets face it Lisa was never going to win.

Well sorry IF that is the reason he has lost some support,as I said before how fickle is that?and if the GBP go OFF him because of that I give up,LOLLets have another 'Rachel' winner shall we?because she was NICE wasn't she.

[Shasown]

Originally posted by kazanne

Well sorry IF that is the reason he has lost some support,as I said before how fickle is that?and if the GBP go OFF him because of that I give up,LOLLets have another 'Rachel' winner shall we?because she was NICE wasn't she.

Nope I am not saying the winner has to be nice. but Freddie showed a darker side to the likeable character he was earlier in the show. A lot of people are questioning this change, was he playing the gullible likeable buffoon and now he thinks the win is in the bag, has the real Freddie come out to play.

[BB22]

Freddie has got too cocky, but I think people need to keep things in perspective. Freddie's behaviour is not in the same league as the behaviour he has had to put up with from others in the House. Nothing that has happened in the last few weeks in any way compares to what Lisa and her cronies did.

To be honest, I think some people just think it is kind of "cool" or "rebellious" to now stick up for Lisa. It isn't.

[Kazanne]

Originally posted by Shasown

Nope I am not saying the winner has to be nice. but Freddie showed a darker side to the likeable character he was earlier in the show. A lot of people are questioning this change, was he playing the gullible likeable buffoon and now he thinks the win is in the bag, has the real Freddie come out to play.

I just think Freddie had more confidence to confront Lisa as more of the housemates knew what she was like by then,some of them dislike her now as much as Freddie,but each to their own whether Freddie wins or not imo he has been a much better housemate than Lisa.IF Freddie does something dire I would consider my support for him but as he stands now he still has it.

[xmynxiex]

Good and bad everyones got it, at least hes not affraid to voice his opinion, and lets face it, it was an opinion. I say good on him and find people blowing this way out of proportion for the sake of their own agendas. If we take a look at the poll hes still favourite with over 6000 votes cast. Yes he has lost a few fans but he clearly still has a huge fan base.

I dont applaud all of his behaviour during the argument and i do agree he could of handled it better. But im prepaird to cut the guy some slack as i believe it was all down to frustration from what he went through in the first 5 weeks.

[Shasown]

Originally posted by kazanne
I just think Freddie had more confidence to confront Lisa as more of the housemates knew what she was like by then,some of them dislike her now as much as Freddie,but each to their own whether Freddie wins or not imo he has been a much better housemate than Lisa.IF Freddie does something dire I would consider my support for him but as he stands now he still has it.

Yeah i can appreciate that, however the support i had for Freddie has been eroded recently. Thats not to say I have any support for Lisa, or any support that I had for her has increased.

I dont think I am fickle, nor do I think I am easily swayed. I think, in fact, it would be better for the program if some of the nice housemates fell at the fence tonight. Hira or Rodrigo as unlikely as it seems, would be my choice if I could pick.

[Shasown]

Originally posted by xmynxiex
Good and bad everyones got it, at least hes not affraid to voice his opinion, and lets face it, it was an opinion. I say good on him and find people blowing this way out of proportion for the sake of their own agendas. If we take a look at the poll hes still favourite with over 6000 votes cast. Yes he has lost a few fans but he clearly still has a huge fan base.

I dont applaud all of his behaviour during the argument and i do agree he could of handled it better. But im prepaird to cut the guy some slack as i believe it was all down to frustration from what he went through in the first 5 weeks.

Again i can appreciate that, however its also possible that now he has backup as opposed to being by himself, the real freddie has shown himself.

One thing is for certain the next few weeks should be interesting watching him. Will he now revert back to the old likeable lad or will the egoist take over.

[virtuoso88]

Just reminding people to watch these videos. Lisa cannot escape her viciousness. Past is past but it is necessary to remember for the future.

http://www.channel4.com/bigbrother/v...168b3e/play.c4

http://www.channel4.com/bigbrother/v...a1a32f/play.c4

http://www.channel4.com/bigbrother/v...75ad57/play.c4

http://www.channel4.com/bigbrother/v...a3b9af/play.c4

http://www.channel4.com/bigbrother/v...8f052b/play.c4

[Shasown]

Originally posted by virtuoso88
Just reminding people to watch these videos. Lisa cannot escape her viciousness. Past is past but it is necessary to remember for the future.

Yeah we have seen that posting on just about any thread that mentions Lisa for the last few hours Virtuoso, I would be careful the Mods could class it as spamming.

As i have said in a few previous posts I aint denying that Freddie suffered in the first few weeks.

[HELLIWONTGO]

Freddie is at last becoming watchable, I just wish he had done this before, and if people find him arrogant, it proves they only liked him as the put upon h/mate!

[Captain.Remy]

Because he behaved like a dumbass and a dildo. I don't like Lisa, I even want her out tonight but Freddie's argument was uncalled for and inappropriate. And he's basically the only person who shouldn't even have said that as he's got the biggest plan in there.
He showed he was even more immature than Lisa by laughing at her and being 'on your face'. That's your answer.