[silversurfer]

It was nice to see Halfwit not for once be overly polite or over analyse everything when he finally lost it with Lisa...he may have been a little immature but hats off to him... remember Lisa is probably the most feared housemate in there... so he has got a real pair of cahunas under all that wealthy hippy sheen....

[Chels]

everyone hates him for it LOL.
if that was anyone else standing up to lisa they'd love them.

[Claymores]

He found the inner 5 year old you mean and came up with a playground taunt.

[virtuoso88]

Except now Lisa's fans are using Freddie's moment of truth versus Lisa against him.

I suppose it was fine for Lisa's fans when Lisa and Karly and Kris were being mean to Freddie but oh, not when Freddie finally gets back at Lisa and stands up for himself. How dare that Freddie stand up to Lisa!

[setanta]

But he wasn't attacking her; he was after David in front of all his cohorts when Lisa came in to defend her friend. I don't think he showed any balls at all during that scenario.

Lisa's powers within the house have been all but nullified and David is hardly the master schemer and intellect that Freddie was alluding to in his worryingly deluded rant. It was a very foolish and ill conceived attack and he ended up looking like a cocky little prat.

[karezza]

All Freddie did was stand up to bully Lisa who made his life hell in the first few weeks.

[Nebi]

Halfwit didn't grow a pair, he think hes invincible and that no matter what he does he will win. He was a normal weird bloke and now he's this monster cocky weird bloke'.

[albie]

Lisa wasn't attacking Freddie in the first place. She was defending herself and David against allegations of having a gameplan(which is ridiculous) and Freddie decided to join in because he is a coward and had a group behind him. On his own he would have filled his nappy. a little immature? he was acting like a drunken thug. I would have pounded his politician ass.

[Niamh.]

Originally posted by silversurfer
It was nice to see Halfwit not for once be overly polite or over analyse everything when he finally lost it with Lisa...he may have been a little immature but hats off to him... remember Lisa is probably the most feared housemate in there... so he has got a real pair of cahunas under all that wealthy hippy sheen....

People aren't annoyed at his treatment of Lisa, it's his treatment of David that people think was wrong. David never did anything to him AND David was in the right with his argument with Bea (which Freddie knew) yet he still treated him appallingly and backed Bea!!

[chris1232]

Originally posted by silversurfer
It was nice to see Halfwit not for once be overly polite or over analyse everything when he finally lost it with Lisa...he may have been a little immature but hats off to him... remember Lisa is probably the most feared housemate in there... so he has got a real pair of cahunas under all that wealthy hippy sheen....

Well said.

[Chels]

Originally posted by Niamhxo

People aren't annoyed at his treatment of Lisa, it's his treatment of David that people think was wrong. David never did anything to him AND David was in the right with his argument with Bea (which Freddie knew) yet he still treated him appallingly and backed Bea!!

so why aren't people p*ssed off with marcus calling david a fat t*** then?

[setanta]

Originally posted by Chels.x

so why aren't people p*ssed off with marcus calling david a fat t*** then?

Don't change the goalposts by lining up another housemate. Marcus and Lisa are douches... we all know that. Freddie targeted David in an insane bout of paranoia and delusion.

Ridiculous stuff altogether that was further heightened by his absolute contempt for Lisa and David and his completely arrogant assumption that the audience love him.

That's not the compassionate and humble Halfwit that I remember.

[Patricia4]

Originally posted by karezza
All Freddie did was stand up to bully Lisa who made his life hell in the first few weeks.

Yes payback time

[Nebi]

Freddie never got attention from people and it shows. At first it was cute because he was this little wounded pet alone in the wood but he turned into some kind of retarded grizzly attacking everything that say something againts Bea.

If Freddie had any balls he would tell Marcus to let his woman alone and stop getting on top of her and humping her.

Freddie is a loser and the facts don't lie.

[Chels]

Originally posted by setanta

Don't change the goalposts by lining up another housemate. Marcus and Lisa are douches... we all know that. Freddie targeted David in an insane bout of paranoia and delusion.

Ridiculous stuff altogether that was further heightened by his absolute contempt for Lisa and David and his completely arrogant assumption that the audience love him.

That's not the compassionate and humble Halfwit that I remember.

i'm not passing it on to another housemate, it's just freddie's getting stick for "bullying" david, which marcus has also been doing, but only freddie's getting the blame

[Niamh.]

Originally posted by Chels.x

so why aren't people p*ssed off with marcus calling david a fat t*** then?

The difference is Marcus has acted like that towards different people all through the show and people either liked or disliked him. So giving out about Marcus calling someone something isn't new material where as the way Freddie acted is not the way he normally behaves and has swayed peoples opinins on him greatly, hence all the threads about it

[suttin]

In fairness Freddie is an absolute twat. Be honest, He'd be the laughing stock of the people you know if you knew him in real life. He further proved it with his little outburst, although, in fairness it was quite funny watching Lias get all bent out of shape.
She was right though when she said what a prat he is. Nobody can deny that, surely....

It annoyed me that she wasn't able to get 'back ' at him tho. I wish I was in the house. I would have said somthing to get back at him witthout it looking petty...almost like I was sympathising with him. I wouild have maybe said
"Freddie, Im not angry at you for your outburst. I understand that you're feeling vunerable for being so publicly rejected by Bea. It cant be nice, but come on...you never stood a chance. You're a very strange guy. Im here for you though, if you need to speak.
haha"

[setanta]

Originally posted by Chels.x

i'm not passing it on to another housemate, it's just freddie's getting stick for "bullying" david, which marcus has also been doing, but only freddie's getting the blame

Not true at all really. Marcus gets plenty of stick for his behaviour. The problem with Freddie is that this contrasts hugely with the character we have grown accustomed to. He's been changing gradually in tiny little increments with each eviction survival and as his perceived power within the house has grown.

I believe this whole David scenario is a manifestation of what's going on in his mind..... he now has the confidence and possibly arrogance to unleash all his feelings without thinking of the repercussions becuz he believes he is safe from any eviction. He basically believes everything he says is right at this stage.

My worry is that this might be the real Halfwit we're finally seeing- full of his own self importance and scheming more than any other housemate. He was always a bit of a gossip and analyst.

[Shasown]

Yeah he may have found his cojones, they shouldnt really have been hard for him to find, for the last few weeks they have been in Beas hands

(Kahunas are hawaiin master/teachers/experts in certain fields by the way)

[silversurfer]

Originally posted by Shasown
Yeah he may have found his cojones, they shouldnt really have been hard for him to find, for the last few weeks they have been in Beas hands

(Kahunas are hawaiin master/teachers/experts in certain fields by the way)

Cojones??? thanx u learn something everyday..Spanish and Hawaiin culture...

[Shasown]

Your welcome

[vladicus]

people can only take so much before the they start to see the red mist and fight back against a bully

[setanta]

Originally posted by vladicus
people can only take so much before the they start to see the red mist and fight back against a bully

For hopefully the last time, he wasn't attacking Lisa- he was having digs (ridiculously illjudged digs) at David. Why does everybody bring in the Lisa thing? He lost the plot and my respect with his targeting of David there.

[Niamh.]

Originally posted by setanta

For hopefully the last time, he wasn't attacking Lisa- he was having digs (ridiculously illjudged digs) at David. Why does everybody bring in the Lisa thing? Two wrongs don't make a right..... this is not the Halfwit I respected.

LOL, I was about to post something simalar but I couldn't be bothered writing the same stuff over and over and over, people aren't listening LOL!!!

[setanta]

Originally posted by Niamhxo

LOL, I was about to post something simalar but I couldn't be bothered writing the same stuff over and over and over, people aren't listening LOL!!!

It's getting boring now...... Lisa this and well done Freddie that. That's not the issue here.