[rayheartbliss]

Originally posted by kazanne

Sometimes Lisa and sophie are wrong,Charlie is so far up lisa's ass he can see the sky!!Defending his friends my A$$ he was TRYING to be clever and he failed miserably,LOL

i think thats just what you want to think...cuz you like freddie!

[AhmedFan2004]

Originally posted by mist
He has always been in team Lisa and due to outsiders saying she is unpopular, backed off from her. Now she has survived an eviction, he thinks he can gain public support from his attack on Freddie as Freddie was proved wrong.

Charlie had been spoiling for a fight with Freddie all day.

You're right that he dared to say this because he had more faith in less of a backlash. But I don't agree he thinks it'll necessarily gain public support.

It's pretty obvious that Freddie plays the martyr role and is a plotter and schemer himself. He's been bloc voting against Lisa for 2 months.

He called it exactly how it is IMO, Freddie is the only one obsessing about gameplans.

Btw, most forums are just fan-type sites over-ran with bandwagons. General public do not support Freddie, they support Charlie more.

Eg) Facebook: Charlie has 25, 000 + fans, Freddie has 1-1500. And Facebook is a general social utility, illustrating my point about the general public.

[AhmedFan2004]

Originally posted by BBmassive
Utter BS ,he likes her ,she is his mate ,her was defending her as she would him

Aren't Freddie fans just the worst? Any incident that happens, they will twist it and make it fit their outlook of 'Ultimate Freddie'. They can't just provide an objective viewpoint, or try.

I think that's why most forum posters are Freddie fans, and the non-posters tend to be non-Freddie fans. Non-Freddie fans can't be bothered.

Sophie tops the TiBB poll, yet has few posters. They can't be fussed.

Freddie fans are just like Freddie. Twisting, bobbing and weaving everything to make it fit their outlook. Very deceptive and skilled at it too.

[AhmedFan2004]

Originally posted by philmurph
Charlie knows that halftit is/was popular outside the house so why would he jeopardise himself if he didn't believe it to be the true.

Freddie is not popular outside the house at all. He does well on forums because the nerdier segment he appeals to tend to use forums. And moreso, tend to post perception-twisted drivel. Just like their bullying bandwagons and anti-Lisa propoganda from Day One.

General public, don't really care or support Freddie. They'll just see him as cocky, boring, deluded toff like fans of other HMs do.

He hasn't once been cheered significantly on any eviction night, and got booed (albit fairly mildly) last Friday.

Siavash, Charlie and Sophie got cheers. They're the popular ones.

[MJBFAN]

I'm so sick of the double standards with some people.

I am a Freddie fan..ok.. but he has been getting on my nerves with certain things..but I can understand this even if sometimes I don't condone some of his more can I say smuggish behaviour since Bea walked into the house and though I really cannot stand Bea freddie has made mistakes.

Having said this ... Freddie has endured constant attacks, been ostracised made to feel inferior and unworthy. I could cite examples but they would take over the whole forum. His confidence has hit an all time low and certain manipulators have made him feel special. Can he be blamed for making ONE mistake of laughing at Lisa?

It is okay for Charlie to defend Lisa , but not okay for Freddie to defend Bea.. well there are misconceptions on either of Charlie and Freddies loyalties to both women. We know this..Freddie does not but I really think Charlie does to a certain extent.

Charlie is in it to win it..Freddie from his behaviour today is not. Freddie is concerned with injustices ..real or unreal..Charlie just wants the cash and will go to any exteremes to acheive this.

[mist]

Charlie thinks HE is so going to win it. NOT.