[t.i.m.e.a]

Give your predictions here...

Here's mine:
I predict that if halfwit keeps arguing re public will start to turn on him and favor lisa, which means that halfwit and marcus' group will swap with lisa's and be the scheming group that everybody hates!

I think this because since halfwit has become really cocky the public have started to like lisa more...

[merv]

I being a member of the public, like the new Freddie.
More think"good on you son"they had it coming

[DrunkerThanMoses]

I dont understand, for mouths, since the start when Lisa was horriblely treating him, people on here said for him to stand up for himself against her, and when he does you all turn your back on the guy.... and to your answer no, Lisa HAS, and will ALWAYS be a horrible human being!

[t.i.m.e.a]

Originally posted by ImDrunkerThenMoses
I dont understand, for mouths, since the start when Lisa was horriblely treating him, people on here said for him to stand up for himself against her, and when he does you all turn your back on the guy.... and to your answer no, Lisa HAS, and will ALWAYS be a horrible human being!

it's not the fact that he stood up for himself, it is just becuase if the way he did it which shocked all of his fans. He could have handled it better and should not have gone on about being the favourite.

[Bfunk]

HA HA It's all amusing. I'm not falling for Dimwits bullshit at all.

I liked him, but since Bea, his judgement is questionable.

He's quitequite rude & smug when talking to Charlie or others. He talks in in a condescending way. I loved Charlie for not taking that ****!! Good for him!!

Freddie, don't insult other people's intelligence!!

[moonballoon]

What did Lisa specifically do against Freddie? I have watched from the beginning, and I remember I preferred Freddie to Lisa, but I can't remember anything she really did.

I agree with OP that Lisa's popularity will increase, because there has been a disproportionate amount of bile poured on and about her, and sometimes when people (the public) change their minds, they go disproportionately the other way.

I don't mind her, these days.

It's a genuine question, to people with longer memories than I have ... what did she do that made everyone hate her so much?

[J-Rock]

Nah Lisa won't be forgotten for being a bully...she'd be out anyday against HW

moonballoon - see recent links that have been posted showing Lisa's proper aggressive bullying and isolation towards Freddie

[a_2009]

I don't think the popularity will switch, I don't think Lisa has the most attractive personality. It just depends if people can take off the rose tinted glasses when it comes to Freddie, and realise he's not the victim anymore, he's strutting around thinking he can do what he likes as he's been told he's popular with the public. His behaviour has seriously deteriorated ever since the ex housemates came in for the birthday celebration task.

[xmynxiex]

My loyalties lay with freddie, i would never support lisa, she should of been thrown out weeks ago when she pushed her fingers into freds head!

[moonballoon]

Originally posted by J-Rock
Nah Lisa won't be forgotten for being a bully...she'd be out anyday against HW

moonballoon - see recent links that have been posted showing Lisa's proper aggressive bullying and isolation towards Freddie

Thanks for civilised reply! I fully expected someone to post something like COS SHE'S A FUGGIN UGLY LESBIAN YOU FUGGIN PLEB.

I do remember she was sort of bullying, but maybe it was more kind of defensiveness cos probably most of the people she's met in her life who talk like Freddie have looked down on her or something? I'm not saying he did.

[AhmedFan2004]

Originally posted by t.i.m.e.a
Give your predictions here...

Here's mine:
I predict that if halfwit keeps arguing re public will start to turn on him and favor lisa, which means that halfwit and marcus' group will swap with lisa's and be the scheming group that everybody hates!

I think this because since halfwit has become really cocky the public have started to like lisa more...

Well the tide has turned and Halfwit has definitely been exposed as a plotter and schemer. Charlie's rant tonight certainly clarified the issue and revealed what was many people's thoughts on Halfwit.

I don't think they will swap popularity though. I think it will tilt, and continue to do so till the end of the show.

I think Lisa will be in the final and Charlie will win.

[merv]

Lisa remains Number one for the Boot on current up to date Polls on various forums, no swap about it.
If she is up she's gone.

[qwertyell]

Originally posted by moonballoon
What did Lisa specifically do against Freddie? I have watched from the beginning, and I remember I preferred Freddie to Lisa, but I can't remember anything she really did.

http://www.channel4.com/bigbrother/v...168b3e/play.c4

http://www.channel4.com/bigbrother/v...a1a32f/play.c4

http://www.channel4.com/bigbrother/v...75ad57/play.c4

http://www.channel4.com/bigbrother/v...8f052b/play.c4

Couple of examples of her soft and friendly nature...

[aoq2008]

THe longer halfwit is kept in the more he will be hated and the more boos he will recieve so don;'t mind how long he is there for

[bansheewails]

I love the new Freddie, and remember he does have reason to be cocky because he was saved for weeks and weeks! I think people like to build HM's up and then smash them down!

[moonballoon]

qwertyell ... thanks for links. wow, yes, she was totally horrible in the first one .. I couldn't watch the others. But she has changed a lot. I can't imagine her being like that now.

She comes across in that clip like someone who has had to stand up for herself and be totally vile in order to survive ...

[Combo]

Originally posted by t.i.m.e.a
Give your predictions here...

Here's mine:
I predict that if halfwit keeps arguing re public will start to turn on him and favor lisa, which means that halfwit and marcus' group will swap with lisa's and be the scheming group that everybody hates!

I think this because since halfwit has become really cocky the public have started to like lisa more...

I totally disagree. Halfwit doesn't scheme, he expresses his points in a way we probably don't understand. However when BB 10 first started and Lisa and Kris where having pops at HalfWit I was shouting at the screen at why HalfWit doesn't stick up for himself. But now he finally has stuck up for himself. When he over road Lisa in an argument and Lisa walked off and called him "a stupid little prick" we where all like finally.

Lisa is an idiot, she things she's good. We can see she really wants to win the show with her reaction when she stayed and she didn't really give a **** about Hira. She cares about the money at the end, that's all she gives a **** about.

The public don't like her. They may of liked her better than they liked Hira. Hira wasn't popular she was very quiet and didn't really do much where as Lisa was there from day 1 and will have a few more extra fans with her, that's all.

/rant

[qwertyell]

Originally posted by moonballoon
qwertyell ... thanks for links. wow, yes, she was totally horrible in the first one .. I couldn't watch the others. But she has changed a lot. I can't imagine her being like that now.

She comes across in that clip like someone who has had to stand up for herself and be totally vile in order to survive ...

That's funny - Marcus made the exact same observation about her.

Although, in the first clip she wasn't even standing up for herself. She was trying to shut Freddie down because he was rightly trying to enjoy the moment of surviving his first eviction - how dare he? Not on her watch...

Has she changed? She's said she's keeping out of arguments and confrontations these days - allegedly as a result of being warned twice by BB about her behaviour - but that nasty side still bubbles up to surface on occasion.

I suspect, emboldened by her newly re-grouped coven, someone's going to get it in the neck again pretty soon...

[jet]

Originally posted by ImDrunkerThenMoses
I dont understand, for mouths, since the start when Lisa was horriblely treating him, people on here said for him to stand up for himself against her, and when he does you all turn your back on the guy.... and to your answer no, Lisa HAS, and will ALWAYS be a horrible human being!

I know you think that if you say Lisa is horrible often enough people will start to believe it, but it doesn't work like that. People have their own minds and can form their own opinions, and I believe that most right minded people will understand the dynamics that have been going on in the house and see Halfwit for what he is - a sly, cunning, condescending snob who thinks he is cleverer than everyone else.

[wjp203]

Originally posted by ImDrunkerThenMoses
I dont understand, for mouths, since the start when Lisa was horriblely treating him, people on here said for him to stand up for himself against her, and when he does you all turn your back on the guy.... and to your answer no, Lisa HAS, and will ALWAYS be a horrible human being!

[wjp203]

I 100% agree with you...If the public start hating because he is aware of himself and the fact that he is popular because he was saved so many times then that is ridiculous. Lisa needs to go soon, I can't believe she has survived for so long...it says so much about this society. It is awful that she is still there...i just thought she was going to be a token lesbian...forgetting that they managed to add, common, stupid, irritating and scheming.

[rayheartbliss]

well, really freddie only became popular because there was more people in the house that didnt like him, so we felt sorry for him (me including)